Hawk brake pads or OEM?

viejevox · 01-13-2011, 03:56 PM

Hi, i need advice for front brake pads replacement for my Civic Si

im interested i Hawks HPS Performance Street w/0.622, so my question is:

-Can they damage my stock rotors??
-Did they whort over OEM?

other recomendations are welcome

GODSP33D · 02-02-2011, 02:10 PM

I have a friend who is currently running the Hawk HPS pads in the front and rear and he seems very satisfied with the setup. Others on the forum have also said pretty good things about these pads so if you have the money to get them I don't see why it would be a bad idea. Overall its a nice small step forward from the OEM pads but don't expect it to act like a BBK lol

BlackDevilsi · 02-02-2011, 03:15 PM

if you want really good braking look at slotted rotors and hawks. or if you have the money get a big brake kit for the front

RitcheyRch · 02-02-2011, 04:10 PM

Look into the Akebono Ceramic pads.

SIg · 02-02-2011, 04:25 PM

Hawks HPS + OEM rotors will be the perfect combo for a daily driver. If you are not buying new rotors be sure to at least have them resurfaced.

goon54 · 02-02-2011, 04:28 PM

+1 for the Hawks HPS
running them on my TSX and u can feel the difference.
great investment

ebound · 02-03-2011, 04:56 PM

+10 for Hawk HPS.

I would recommend also buying new rotors at the same time, so the pad can bed into the surface of the rotor, increasing your braking stability. I went with OEM blanks + HPS pads on my old Accord, and that car stopped on a dime. It saved my ass plenty of times, so in terms of saved insurance deductibles, it's well worth it.

Like somebody said above, you may also want to look at slotted rotors. Given the Si's weak, puny stock brakes, all the help you can afford is a good thing.

ozzyinc · 02-03-2011, 07:44 PM

I resurfaced my oe rotors and went with axxis ultimates and Super Blue DOT 4 brake fluid. Brakes much better than oem, no squealing, and is one of the better setups for a DD.. Just make sure you break them in properly...

xzero1786 · 02-03-2011, 08:08 PM

Slotted rotors aren't really necessary at all.

Hawk pads alone would be fine (resurface your rotors if it'll make you feel better), but for better stopping power you should go for brembo blanks with hawk pads, ss lines, motul rbf600 and you're set.

iamchris · 02-03-2011, 08:48 PM

slotted rotors only exist to cool down brakes better. There's no point in putting them on if you aren't going to the track. Blank rotors will actually stop the car quicker. More friction.

New blanks plus hawk hps will be a great set up for you car. Much better than the OEM brakes.

Excalibur · 02-03-2011, 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ozzyinc

I resurfaced my oe rotors and went with axxis ultimates and Super Blue DOT 4 brake fluid. Brakes much better than oem, no squealing, and is one of the better setups for a DD.. Just make sure you break them in properly...

How do you break them in properly?

Quote:

Originally Posted by xzero1786

Slotted rotors aren't really necessary at all.

Hawk pads alone would be fine (resurface your rotors if it'll make you feel better), but for better stopping power you should go for brembo blanks with hawk pads, ss lines, motul rbf600 and you're set.

What part number for the brembo rotors for our cars? What are the specs compared to the oem rotors? Any cons to going with them? I would like something for dd and something for the occasional autox/track day.

6EPKOR · 02-03-2011, 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Excalibur

What part number for the brembo rotors for our cars? What are the specs compared to the oem rotors? Any cons to going with them? I would like something for dd and something for the occasional autox/track day.

The part number is 25831. They're perfect for what you're looking for....
Front - Brembo OE Brake Rotor :: Brake Rotors :: Brakes :: Import Replacement Parts Importrp is where I've found them to be the least expensive....check it out....

Excalibur · 02-03-2011, 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6EPKOR

The part number is 25831. They're perfect for what you're looking for....
Front - Brembo OE Brake Rotor :: Brake Rotors :: Brakes :: Import Replacement Parts Importrp is where I've found them to be the least expensive....check it out....

How much more area do they have? How much bigger? Any tests you know of to compare them to stock? I saved the site and I will probably get them when I need new rotors. How are they with the pedal feel? Any issues running any hawk pads with them as far as running the same size pads or not?

savannAAHH · 02-12-2011, 01:53 PM

i have hawks <<<<3333333 emmmmmm

SFTifoso · 02-12-2011, 05:08 PM

If you can engage the ABS or cause your tires to lock up under braking, you've got more than enough braking force. If you want to stop faster, get better tires. For a DD changing to more aggressive brake pads and/or increasing the diameter of the rotors (BBK) will only make the brakes more sensitive, which means you'll have less play in the brake pedal before the ABS is engaged or wheels lock up.

I'm not saying don't do it. When I had my tC it had a very long brake pedal, which made heel and toe kinda awkward, and the OEM tires were very slippery too. I upgraded to Axxis Ultimate brake pads and Bridgestone Potenza RE760 tires and it was a completely different and better car after that. Just know that upgrading your brakes won't stop you faster unless you upgrade your tires too.

CanSICoupe · 02-13-2011, 11:57 AM

I have had my 09 Civic SI now for 2 yrs, and I am still on stock rotors and pads from when I bought the car. Their getting close to its time, but still lots of pad and rotor.

Theory goes, if your burning up your pads and rotors in months, then you should rethink driver training. Your driving a standard, your suppose to downshift when braking. Another theory of course is wearing the clutch, but really, think about it. If you drive the car right, you could have that clutch and those stock pads & rotors a long, long time.

mattgrimes · 02-20-2011, 02:33 AM

Do the Brembo Blanks have any kind of corrosion resistance? I hate the ugly rusted look that the OEM rotors get.

av911 · 02-20-2011, 03:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattgrimes

Do the Brembo Blanks have any kind of corrosion resistance? I hate the ugly rusted look that the OEM rotors get.

No.

DavidESchiller · 02-21-2011, 12:24 PM

I had hawk HPS pads on all 4 corners on my 2008 STI. resurfaced the stock rotors. they were squeaky as hell after 5k miles and put out way more dust than the stock ones did. but everyone else I know with them seems to have good luck so I think I just got a defective set or something.

neogod · 02-21-2011, 02:32 PM

are you sure they weren't Hawk plus?

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xzero1786 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Oklahoma City Posts: 1,174	Slotted rotors aren't really necessary at all. Hawk pads alone would be fine (resurface your rotors if it'll make you feel better), but for better stopping power you should go for brembo blanks with hawk pads, ss lines, motul rbf600 and you're set. Last edited by xzero1786; 02-03-2011 at 08:09 PM.

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goon54 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Chicago Posts: 118	+1 for the Hawks HPS running them on my TSX and u can feel the difference. great investment

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ebound Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Chicago, IL Age: 27 Posts: 371 Andrew	+10 for Hawk HPS. I would recommend also buying new rotors at the same time, so the pad can bed into the surface of the rotor, increasing your braking stability. I went with OEM blanks + HPS pads on my old Accord, and that car stopped on a dime. It saved my ass plenty of times, so in terms of saved insurance deductibles, it's well worth it. Like somebody said above, you may also want to look at slotted rotors. Given the Si's weak, puny stock brakes, all the help you can afford is a good thing.

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ozzyinc Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: East L.A. Age: 35 Posts: 482 Ozzy A.	I resurfaced my oe rotors and went with axxis ultimates and Super Blue DOT 4 brake fluid. Brakes much better than oem, no squealing, and is one of the better setups for a DD.. Just make sure you break them in properly...

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iamchris Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 3,727	slotted rotors only exist to cool down brakes better. There's no point in putting them on if you aren't going to the track. Blank rotors will actually stop the car quicker. More friction. New blanks plus hawk hps will be a great set up for you car. Much better than the OEM brakes.

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savannAAHH Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Tucson. Age: 24 Posts: 375 Savannah	i have hawks <<<<3333333 emmmmmm

02-12-2011, 05:08 PM	#15 (permalink)
SFTifoso Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 267	If you can engage the ABS or cause your tires to lock up under braking, you've got more than enough braking force. If you want to stop faster, get better tires. For a DD changing to more aggressive brake pads and/or increasing the diameter of the rotors (BBK) will only make the brakes more sensitive, which means you'll have less play in the brake pedal before the ABS is engaged or wheels lock up. I'm not saying don't do it. When I had my tC it had a very long brake pedal, which made heel and toe kinda awkward, and the OEM tires were very slippery too. I upgraded to Axxis Ultimate brake pads and Bridgestone Potenza RE760 tires and it was a completely different and better car after that. Just know that upgrading your brakes won't stop you faster unless you upgrade your tires too.

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CanSICoupe Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia Posts: 770	I have had my 09 Civic SI now for 2 yrs, and I am still on stock rotors and pads from when I bought the car. Their getting close to its time, but still lots of pad and rotor. Theory goes, if your burning up your pads and rotors in months, then you should rethink driver training. Your driving a standard, your suppose to downshift when braking. Another theory of course is wearing the clutch, but really, think about it. If you drive the car right, you could have that clutch and those stock pads & rotors a long, long time.

02-20-2011, 02:33 AM	#17 (permalink)
mattgrimes Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: costa mesa Posts: 135 matt	Do the Brembo Blanks have any kind of corrosion resistance? I hate the ugly rusted look that the OEM rotors get.

02-21-2011, 12:24 PM	#19 (permalink)
DavidESchiller Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 1,741	I had hawk HPS pads on all 4 corners on my 2008 STI. resurfaced the stock rotors. they were squeaky as hell after 5k miles and put out way more dust than the stock ones did. but everyone else I know with them seems to have good luck so I think I just got a defective set or something.

02-21-2011, 02:32 PM	#20 (permalink)
neogod Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 2,937 Fred	are you sure they weren't Hawk plus?

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