Scion tC vs. Civic SI (non-race related)

[fiji06si13]

TC < poo
the only thing it has is looks......
I beat a supercharged one the other day.....

[anurok]

I will tell you this much...

I have a scion tC (limited release, dealer options etc etc.) Paid 22k at the dealer for it out the door, bought about 5k worth of aftermarket turbo non sense, blew the engine, bought a new engine, replaced it, sold the car and now I am thinking about buying the Si...

the tC was fun and it is an awesome looking car especially with the body work I did...but it was lacking. The only thing to do was boost it and I failed. I am getting out of it and moving on.

Either the SI or the V6 Altima SE...the altima is expensive though seeing as how I can get the SI for about 19k new...

We will see what happens. Hats off to tC and Si owners who have boosted well. You don't hear many stories of the people who blew their engine to kingdom come.

[razasasin]

I think I've mentioned this elsewhere but not in this thread- I also have a 2001 toyota taco double cab prerunner - stock except for intake. I used to think the TC was my next car until I wasted one twice in my taco.

at first i was like , but then i

Needles to say I got an si

[RICO_]

Originally Posted by fiji06si13

TC < poo
the only thing it has is looks......
I beat a supercharged one the other day.....

Yup. TRD Supercharger for the TC only adds 40HP. And with a heavier curb weight than the Si it's still slower even with the S/C.

[liquidr1]

TC= Turd Coupe

Its ok though, im sure toyota will redesign it sooner or later to compet with newer models.

[taffy07si]

Resale is the biggest part in buying a car for me. The tC loses alot of value after a couple of years.

[DNieves]

'08 tC=Cool: dual sunroof, OEM Navi is more accurate than Honda OEM & plays DVDs, OEM wheels are unfinished polished aluminum, tons of OEM (& aftermarket) add-ons including LED tail lights, iPod interface is perfect, projector headlights, uses regular gas, car is fairly cheap & Scion has a no haggle policy.
tC=Lame: slow, navi needs the car to be stopped to pay DVDs and enter destination data, too rounded, seat material is a so-so.

Si=Cool: i-Vtech, gorgeous dual tier dashboard, reliable, 6 spd, tons of after market performance parts, good mileage, OEM navi doesn't require you to stop car to change destinations, high resale value, somewhat rarer than typical Civics, etc, LSD.
Si=Lame: few OEM accessories, no LEDs in tailights, no projectors or HIDs, uses premuim gas, attracts thieves and haters, OEM wheels have paint & clearcoat that can scratch, iPod interface sucked so badly Honda removed it from the market. Honda dealers are arrogant and fight you tooth and nail for price and service.

Both suck (typical of every car under 30-40K): thin paint and dent & ding if you look at them too hard.

P.S. I currently own both.

[My5tiC4L]

Stock for stock... SI is a better car then the TC

I don't get why people are so stubborn that they have to compare apples and oranges.

The SI is in a different class then the TC.

The TC is more comparable to the DX, LX, EX.

Now lets say you compare the TRD TC to an SI. Since TRD is not aftermarket, we can put the TRD TC in the same class as the SI, GTI, Colbalt SS, etc. The SI is still a better package then the TRD TC. With the supercharger, the TC moves to the $25k MSRP range, more or less but higher than an SI. Plus you lose like what? half your warranty? even worse gas mileage? Not worth it in my opinion if you have to upgrade to TRD parts which pushes the TC pass the SI range.

Now for aftermarket turbos and sc's. If you slap one of these on, sure you might be faster than an SI. But at what expense? Lose your warranty, horrible gas mileage, not knowing when your engine will blow up, etc. If you're going to compare a aftermarket turbo/supercharged TC against a stock SI, that is just purely dumb. Like I said, apples and oranges. Take a turbo/supercharged SI and compare it to a turbo/supercharaged TC then we'll be on the same level.

[Ayodog]

No one seems to take into account how well one of these will turn.

lsd, no lsd.

ok suspension design, horrible suspension design.

power or not, on any track with equal drivers the si is going to pull hard on a tc.

[I Vtec, do you?]

Originally Posted by My5tiC4L

Now lets say you compare the TRD TC to an SI. Since TRD is not aftermarket, we can put the TRD TC in the same class as the SI, GTI, Colbalt SS, etc. The SI is still a better package then the TRD TC. With the supercharger, the TC moves to the $25k MSRP range, more or less but higher than an SI. Plus you lose like what? half your warranty? even worse gas mileage? Not worth it in my opinion if you have to upgrade to TRD parts which pushes the TC pass the SI range.

Uh, why would it lose any warranty coverage? It's like putting HFP items on our car.

[nayilsi]

civic dx faster than tC....cause it has the weight advantage.

[My5tiC4L]

Originally Posted by I Vtec, do you?

Uh, why would it lose any warranty coverage? It's like putting HFP items on our car.

I thought the warranty for the TC with a TRD supercharger is 12 months/ 12000miles. Correct me if I'm wrong.

[junkimchi]

I think that the tC and the Si are in slightly different classes. In many cases, the Si is probably 4-5 grand more expensive, explaining the various features it has that the scion doesn't have. But then again I'm sure you can make the tC cost over 20k but then is it really worth it? Comparing an EX or LX to a tC would be more appropriate but then the standard civic and the tC are advertised to different age groups.

in direct comparison, say someone offered you one for free, I don't know why anyone would choose a tC.... unless its like haxor built or something.

[freakeytea]

how do you compare two car the same when the tc has bigger size engine than the ex.
i think the tc sucks because the si still has a smaller engine and puts it to shame.
ex 1.8L si 2.0L tc 2.4L

[tsltd]

i have not even read this thread but i got to tell you guys the tC = FTL. I've own the Si Sedan a little less than 2 weeks now and I'm very satisfied inside and out. And yes I use to own a tC for the past 2 years and it is not as fast the SI. Mine was even Supercharged and I still think that the SI is faster. The tC's handling = crap also!

[Filamsoccer]

im with him ^ i drove a tc for 2 years supercharged it body kit lowered and rims and all still drove like sh** it looked good but that was about it handling was horrible.. had fun with ti though but trading it in for the SI was the best move....

[blk06cvc]

Originally Posted by mort

Kind of a vague question there. I'm sure everyone here prefers the Si. As far as which one is better, better in what regard? Interior? Exterior? Speed and power?
Myself, I would say absolutely everything about the Si is better than the tc. Nicer looking in and out, more power, more features etc..

^Agreed!! Plus everywhere you go everyone and their brother has a tc. I see Si's far less often on the roads, which is another plus if you ask me..

[ortivt6]

I love the exterior of my old TC... especially the all glass roof... but heated the interior, cheap seat, ugly dashboard, slow engine and crappy camry 5speed transmission...
here my 05 scion Tc from last year...

and traded her for this... 07FG2...

which then traded her for 08FA5...

[anurok]

Originally Posted by My5tiC4L

I thought the warranty for the TC with a TRD supercharger is 12 months/ 12000miles. Correct me if I'm wrong.

That is the warranty on the super charger and the engine during that time frame yes. If you throw a rod or blow your head gasket (highly unlikely) you are SOL once that year is up.

I test drove the SI yesterday and I was pretty impressed. Good trunk space, gets up and goes nicely, price was good, and revving it to 8k was fun =D

Going from:



To 2008 Obsidian Civic SI =D

Odd though...we have only owned 1 honda in the family back in about 89 haha. Been all toyota since then. Time to stir the pot >D

[ortivt6]

^are u goin 2 or 4dr and what color???