Scion tC vs. Civic SI (non-race related) - Page 6

Si 4 Life · 12-27-2006, 01:32 PM

If we are talking stock versus stock. Si is better. If they put a turbo on the Tc, well then we may have a good race.

SIcBoy · 12-27-2006, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by mattSi

Who paid 19k for their Si..not me

its msrp, who payed that much for the tc, they dont budge on there prices

Si 4 Life · 12-27-2006, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SIcBoy

its msrp, who payed that much for the tc, they dont budge on there prices

I paid under MSRP, but didn't pay less than 19k.

SIcBoy · 12-27-2006, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Si 4 Life

I paid under MSRP, but didn't pay less than 19k.

thankyiu si4life, i can be done, paying less than msrp.

si>tc

Skylinegtr06 · 12-27-2006, 01:50 PM

dx > Tc, Tc> Scion Xb

**Cookstar** · 04-22-2007, 03:47 PM

I just drove my nephew's new Scion tC. Honestly, there's no comparison between it and my Si. They feel like they have two completely different missions in life. The word that comes to mind when talking about his car is "numb". I would say the steering is comparable to mine, but the clutch, shifter, and brakes lack precision. The shifter feels like it's almost not connected to anything unlike the rifle-bolt action of my shifter. It really feels like it was made to commute, not stir the passion of the driver. The pedals were close enough to allow for some good heel-and-toeing, but the engine was so quiet, I couldn't hear to match revs! The seats are not designed to hold you in place during cornering either. Since it was a new car, I didn't stomp the gas, but I don't think I would have been that impressed then either.

dere-licte · 04-22-2007, 03:58 PM

not to mention the TC is dangerous... It only has three airbags: two in the front and one for the knee on the drivers side (rarely come in handy). Trust me side curtain airbags work and help. Last accident of mine when i got t boned, it saved me from bashing my head through the window. Plus too the TC's moon roof isnt safety glass so if that thing breaks... you're gonna get CUTT UP! Not to mention the weight is quite a bit.

I test drove it twice... it wasn't impressive, the only reason i was going to get it was because it was cheaper, but on the otherhand they make it so you have to buy everything as an option such as keyless entry, security system the works. (YEAH RIGHT) Plus too their sound system sucks balls compared to ours. SI HANDS DOWN... trust me if you get the TC you'll most likely regret it in one way or another...

The Shishpanik · 04-22-2007, 10:25 PM

There's alot of aftermarket support for the tC. It's got that.

OMFGPWND · 04-22-2007, 11:17 PM

Can we for a moment just think of both cars as STOCK vs. STOCK?
If this is the case, then there is no debate on who would win. Sure we can all throw in variables, such as turbos, superchargers, etc. But then we lose the point of this thread.
Yes, the SI costs more. But you get more stock for stock. (More HP, 6 spd, LSD,etc.) That ladies and gents, is the bottom line. SI FTW.

Monty · 04-23-2007, 12:18 AM

I drove a TC and it seemed very heavy for its size. I'm sure several of the available TRD modifications would dramatically improve its performance. I got the impression that TRD has more stuff available than HFP.

I landed on a FA5 and so glad I got it. The TC can't be modded to have two extra doors.

pinchycm · 04-23-2007, 12:52 AM

i was between a base rsx/tc when i was buying cars 2 years ago.

it felt like i was driving an old man car that was trying too hard to be young and hip. i wasn't that impressed. go with the civic.

japs52 · 04-23-2007, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by forty.water

Even if this post was on a TC forum, I think the answers would be the same lol...no comparison, the TC is nice, dont get me wrong...I looked into one when I was looking for a new car...Very sluggish, but nice...Just the SI is so much nicer, faster and more 'rare'...Everytime I see a TC it is being driven by a 16 yr old girl, no offense...

but so are the honda coupes.....a chick car.

BLU BY U · 04-23-2007, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by japs52

but so are the honda coupes.....a chick car.

says the base model sedan owner.......

wneddanc

CHRIS · 04-23-2007, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by BLU BY U

says the base model sedan owner.......

CHRIS · 04-23-2007, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by The Shishpanik

There's alot of aftermarket support for the tC. It's got that.

and thats about it lol

BLU BY U · 04-23-2007, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by CHRIS

and thats about it lol

of course its got a good aftermarket, you pay 16k for the car and then 6k to make it halfway enjoyable.

KingMarineM16a4 · 04-23-2007, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BLU BY U

of course its got a good aftermarket, you pay 16k for the car and then 6k to make it halfway enjoyable.

And still no street rep...

The Shishpanik · 04-23-2007, 10:08 PM

I like the tC. So shoot me :)

**Cookstar** · 04-23-2007, 10:26 PM

I think it's alright looking and I'm sure it's reliable being a Toyota product. It's just not a car for enthusiasts. I know it's inexpensive but it seems like they could have given it a little more soul.

GG's Anatomy · 04-23-2007, 11:17 PM

I think it's a good looking car. I looked at them with the TRD supercharger when I was shopping for the SI. (family friends own a toyota dealership) At the time I was also looking at the altima v6 (not the SE-R, too expensive). Liked the scion, well built, toyota quality. But there was something so addictive about the tight suspension and high-revving nature of the SI. I was reaching for my pen to buy the altima, but at the last second I checked and found the 5 speed V6 didn't come with ABS (which they've since changed, I think). I did like the low end grunt of the v6 however. In the end, i got the SI and I found that extra torque in the form of the comptech s/c. I couldn't be happier (at least until i get my bump to attending status in 2011).
But those who say TC sucks, that's just foolish/uninformed. Caters to a different demographic, but still a solid car in its own right.

04-22-2007, 03:47 PM	#106 (permalink)
Cookstar Back home Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: China Grove, NC Age: 34 Posts: 3,881 Chris iTrader: 9 / 100%	I just drove my nephew's new Scion tC. Honestly, there's no comparison between it and my Si. They feel like they have two completely different missions in life. The word that comes to mind when talking about his car is "numb". I would say the steering is comparable to mine, but the clutch, shifter, and brakes lack precision. The shifter feels like it's almost not connected to anything unlike the rifle-bolt action of my shifter. It really feels like it was made to commute, not stir the passion of the driver. The pedals were close enough to allow for some good heel-and-toeing, but the engine was so quiet, I couldn't hear to match revs! The seats are not designed to hold you in place during cornering either. Since it was a new car, I didn't stomp the gas, but I don't think I would have been that impressed then either. __________________ 8thCivic.com Conquers the Dragon III Deal's Gap, NC September 4-7, 2008 Official Event Forum

04-23-2007, 12:18 AM	#110 (permalink)
Monty Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 315 iTrader: 1 / 100%	I drove a TC and it seemed very heavy for its size. I'm sure several of the available TRD modifications would dramatically improve its performance. I got the impression that TRD has more stuff available than HFP. I landed on a FA5 and so glad I got it. The TC can't be modded to have two extra doors. Last edited by Monty; 04-23-2007 at 12:48 AM.

04-23-2007, 10:26 PM	#119 (permalink)
Cookstar Back home Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: China Grove, NC Age: 34 Posts: 3,881 Chris iTrader: 9 / 100%	I think it's alright looking and I'm sure it's reliable being a Toyota product. It's just not a car for enthusiasts. I know it's inexpensive but it seems like they could have given it a little more soul. __________________ 8thCivic.com Conquers the Dragon III Deal's Gap, NC September 4-7, 2008 Official Event Forum

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12-27-2006, 01:32 PM	#101 (permalink)
Si 4 Life Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Arlington TX Age: 28 Posts: 259 James iTrader: 0 / 0%	If we are talking stock versus stock. Si is better. If they put a turbo on the Tc, well then we may have a good race.

12-27-2006, 01:50 PM	#105 (permalink)
Skylinegtr06 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Chula Vista SD Age: 18 Posts: 5,745 edwyn(male) iTrader: 1 / 100%	dx > Tc, Tc> Scion Xb

04-22-2007, 03:58 PM	#107 (permalink)
dere-licte Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Hawaii Age: 18 Posts: 291 Derek iTrader: 0 / 0%	not to mention the TC is dangerous... It only has three airbags: two in the front and one for the knee on the drivers side (rarely come in handy). Trust me side curtain airbags work and help. Last accident of mine when i got t boned, it saved me from bashing my head through the window. Plus too the TC's moon roof isnt safety glass so if that thing breaks... you're gonna get CUTT UP! Not to mention the weight is quite a bit. I test drove it twice... it wasn't impressive, the only reason i was going to get it was because it was cheaper, but on the otherhand they make it so you have to buy everything as an option such as keyless entry, security system the works. (YEAH RIGHT) Plus too their sound system sucks balls compared to ours. SI HANDS DOWN... trust me if you get the TC you'll most likely regret it in one way or another...

04-22-2007, 10:25 PM	#108 (permalink)
The Shishpanik Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: College park, MD Posts: 2,045 Fear the Turtle! iTrader: 1 / 100%	There's alot of aftermarket support for the tC. It's got that.

04-22-2007, 11:17 PM	#109 (permalink)
OMFGPWND Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: AZ Age: 26 Posts: 68 David iTrader: 0 / 0%	Can we for a moment just think of both cars as STOCK vs. STOCK? If this is the case, then there is no debate on who would win. Sure we can all throw in variables, such as turbos, superchargers, etc. But then we lose the point of this thread. Yes, the SI costs more. But you get more stock for stock. (More HP, 6 spd, LSD,etc.) That ladies and gents, is the bottom line. SI FTW.

04-23-2007, 12:52 AM	#111 (permalink)
pinchycm Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 128 iTrader: 0 / 0%	i was between a base rsx/tc when i was buying cars 2 years ago. it felt like i was driving an old man car that was trying too hard to be young and hip. i wasn't that impressed. go with the civic.

04-23-2007, 10:08 PM	#118 (permalink)
The Shishpanik Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: College park, MD Posts: 2,045 Fear the Turtle! iTrader: 1 / 100%	I like the tC. So shoot me :)

04-23-2007, 11:17 PM	#120 (permalink)
GG's Anatomy Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Age: 27 Posts: 108 iTrader: 0 / 0%	I think it's a good looking car. I looked at them with the TRD supercharger when I was shopping for the SI. (family friends own a toyota dealership) At the time I was also looking at the altima v6 (not the SE-R, too expensive). Liked the scion, well built, toyota quality. But there was something so addictive about the tight suspension and high-revving nature of the SI. I was reaching for my pen to buy the altima, but at the last second I checked and found the 5 speed V6 didn't come with ABS (which they've since changed, I think). I did like the low end grunt of the v6 however. In the end, i got the SI and I found that extra torque in the form of the comptech s/c. I couldn't be happier (at least until i get my bump to attending status in 2011). But those who say TC sucks, that's just foolish/uninformed. Caters to a different demographic, but still a solid car in its own right.