Official Honda Reflash Information - Page 22

Crusin_w00kie · 06-20-2008, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Sargeant_002

Anyone know if this is effecting any Si's as new as 08' - I have a sedan that doesn't drop like I think it should. Any video or a before and after comparison, or a after FOR comparison? My VIN ends in 84708600 - so I'm way out of range I'd say...but this sounds a lot like the behavior my car has. Hmmm...

Brian-

Honda says that the 2008 models are fixed.....I call BS on this. Shifting around town I have to shift at or below 3500rpm for it to be smooth, if I go higher than that the rpms hang and shifting is a PITA. Also, when it's cold first thing in the AM, the car does buck a little here and there. I say this wasn't fixed, but honda doesn't want to admit in 3 model years, they just haven't gotten it right yet.

TaI · 06-20-2008, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Crusin_w00kie

Honda says that the 2008 models are fixed.....I call BS on this. Shifting around town I have to shift at or below 3500rpm for it to be smooth, if I go higher than that the rpms hang and shifting is a PITA. Also, when it's cold first thing in the AM, the car does buck a little here and there. I say this wasn't fixed, but honda doesn't want to admit in 3 model years, they just haven't gotten it right yet.

Same with my 08 SI, highing RPMS still exist in 08's...sigh

OrdnanceMarine · 06-20-2008, 06:09 PM

While the DBW characteristics are really subject to each of our tastes I realized last weekend that I like the way it works now that I'm used to it. I drove my old 2000 Accord last weekend which is, of course, a cable actuated throttle and it's hard as heck to blip the throttle and rev match compared to the Si. Just the tiniest tap and the RPMs go soaring on the Accord as opposed to my Si which is less sensitive at the beginning of the stroke due to the way Honda has programmed it.

I noticed the DBW hang when I first bought the car but now I've completely become used to it and find it better than the cable linkage systems I've driven previously.

I will knock it for the bucking when the engine is cold (stops around 110-115F coolant temp) but even on cold mornings it would climb past this in the 1/4 mile it takes to get out of my neighborhood and on the main street.

shiftyMc.shifterton · 07-03-2008, 02:44 PM

im a 2hgfg2 and have some mad rev hang that I am noticing not as much of a surge but that rev hang sucks in my oponion

shiftyMc.shifterton · 07-03-2008, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDarkKnight

If you want to start a petition, I'm in! I've called numerous Honda dealerships and they all give me the same answer.

im down for a petition

UnlimitedSi · 08-04-2008, 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OrdnanceMarine

While the DBW characteristics are really subject to each of our tastes I realized last weekend that I like the way it works now that I'm used to it. I drove my old 2000 Accord last weekend which is, of course, a cable actuated throttle and it's hard as heck to blip the throttle and rev match compared to the Si. Just the tiniest tap and the RPMs go soaring on the Accord as opposed to my Si which is less sensitive at the beginning of the stroke due to the way Honda has programmed it.

I noticed the DBW hang when I first bought the car but now I've completely become used to it and find it better than the cable linkage systems I've driven previously.

I will knock it for the bucking when the engine is cold (stops around 110-115F coolant temp) but even on cold mornings it would climb past this in the 1/4 mile it takes to get out of my neighborhood and on the main street.

yes, yes, yes.... it's a dagnagging design feature.

nandito_SI · 08-09-2008, 02:16 PM

Hi guys, does anyone know if there is a reflash for the brasil assembly 08 civic SI.

I ve got it for 20 days and I realised that my SI rev hang a lot..

Thanks for your help!!

jamesfa5R · 08-09-2008, 11:04 PM

what about cali?

SI08 · 08-26-2008, 01:40 PM

I have a 08 and the rpm won't drop between shifts either. I hate it

. I took it to the dealer to fix it and they said there was nothing they could do to fix it. It drives me crazy. I called Honda and registered a complaint and got a case # . Anyone else with an 08 that has this problem should do the same so maybee they will look into it. At this time there is no fix for the 08.

Honda Cust. Serv. 1-800-999-1009

jdmfg208 · 09-07-2008, 11:30 AM

does mine fall in 708525 my bad im a noob so i can really use some help on dis thanks

jdmfg208 · 09-07-2008, 03:56 PM

and what the hell is rev hang sry dis is my first actual mine manual car so im not familair wit da terms

Ichiban · 09-09-2008, 05:21 PM

I hope they come out with a TSB soon. It is really annoying. I don't know how bad it was before but this is rediculous. I can't drive it like I want without it being jerky. I used to own a 03 EM2 MT and I still like the feel of a cable throttle better, I may just be old fashioned. My friend's 06 RSX-S is a lot eaiser to drive smoothly.

OrdnanceMarine · 09-09-2008, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Ichiban

I hope they come out with a TSB soon. It is really annoying. I don't know how bad it was before but this is rediculous. I can't drive it like I want without it being jerky. I used to own a 03 EM2 MT and I still like the feel of a cable throttle better, I may just be old fashioned. My friend's 06 RSX-S is a lot eaiser to drive smoothly.

It's either operator error or you have problems with the DBW system on that particular car because I have absolutely no problems with DBW on mine and actually like it a lot. Is there a chance that you're going back and fourth between a DBW and cable system? I will admit they are different but after just a little bit of time you get used to either.

civic si 888 · 10-11-2008, 02:28 PM

I have an '09 Si sedan and it does the same thing. It really doesn't bother me but if they can do something about, then i'll have it fix (if it's free of charge!)

iiVTEC · 10-12-2008, 10:05 PM

I have an 06 si but my VIN doesnt fall into the category but i have the same problem:/

Im going to call my dealership to see what they will do.

Has anyone else tried this whos vin didnt fall into the category? did they fix it?

OneEyeMan · 10-27-2008, 11:37 AM

Does this affect the 09 Si's, or did they take care of the software prior to releasing the 09's?
Thanks.
OneEyeMan

jaxson · 10-27-2008, 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneEyeMan

Does this affect the 09 Si's, or did they take care of the software prior to releasing the 09's?
Thanks.
OneEyeMan

You'll still experience a slight rev hang and jerkiness when the car is not warmed up, but it is greatly improved from 06 models. I have an 08 and the car's behavior in the cold is my greatest complaint, and shifting into 2nd gear grinds if you do it too fast.

OneEyeMan · 10-27-2008, 05:59 PM

Thanks

IceMurder · 11-03-2008, 02:14 AM

i have the hang as well, takes at least 2 seconds for the rpms to fall when i push the clutch in

woohooSi · 11-04-2008, 01:30 AM

Has anyone ever tried going to the dealerships with their 08 Si's and asking for a reflash? My 08 sedan still has annoying rev hang and surging/bucking in first gear.

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nandito_SI Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Bs As, Argentina Posts: 3 Fernando iTrader: 0 / 0%	Question from an outsider... Hi guys, does anyone know if there is a reflash for the brasil assembly 08 civic SI. I ve got it for 20 days and I realised that my SI rev hang a lot.. Thanks for your help!!

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06-20-2008, 06:09 PM	#423 (permalink)
OrdnanceMarine Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Mojave Desert, CA Age: 32 Posts: 1,520 Dave iTrader: 6 / 100%	While the DBW characteristics are really subject to each of our tastes I realized last weekend that I like the way it works now that I'm used to it. I drove my old 2000 Accord last weekend which is, of course, a cable actuated throttle and it's hard as heck to blip the throttle and rev match compared to the Si. Just the tiniest tap and the RPMs go soaring on the Accord as opposed to my Si which is less sensitive at the beginning of the stroke due to the way Honda has programmed it. I noticed the DBW hang when I first bought the car but now I've completely become used to it and find it better than the cable linkage systems I've driven previously. I will knock it for the bucking when the engine is cold (stops around 110-115F coolant temp) but even on cold mornings it would climb past this in the 1/4 mile it takes to get out of my neighborhood and on the main street.

07-03-2008, 02:44 PM	#424 (permalink)
shiftyMc.shifterton Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: co Age: 21 Posts: 22 nick iTrader: 0 / 0%	im a 2hgfg2 and have some mad rev hang that I am noticing not as much of a surge but that rev hang sucks in my oponion

08-09-2008, 11:04 PM	#428 (permalink)
jamesfa5R Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: FRESNO CALI Age: 26 Posts: 6 JAMES CAPPS iTrader: 0 / 0%	what about cali?

08-26-2008, 01:40 PM	#429 (permalink)
SI08 Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 1 Brian Lynch iTrader: 0 / 0%	I have a 08 and the rpm won't drop between shifts either. I hate it . I took it to the dealer to fix it and they said there was nothing they could do to fix it. It drives me crazy. I called Honda and registered a complaint and got a case # . Anyone else with an 08 that has this problem should do the same so maybee they will look into it. At this time there is no fix for the 08. Honda Cust. Serv. 1-800-999-1009

09-07-2008, 11:30 AM	#430 (permalink)
jdmfg208 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Tampa Fl Posts: 564 Hector Lavalle iTrader: 8 / 100%	does mine fall in 708525 my bad im a noob so i can really use some help on dis thanks

09-07-2008, 03:56 PM	#431 (permalink)
jdmfg208 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Tampa Fl Posts: 564 Hector Lavalle iTrader: 8 / 100%	and what the hell is rev hang sry dis is my first actual mine manual car so im not familair wit da terms

09-09-2008, 05:21 PM	#432 (permalink)
Ichiban Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: mid md Age: 26 Posts: 58 iTrader: 0 / 0%	I hope they come out with a TSB soon. It is really annoying. I don't know how bad it was before but this is rediculous. I can't drive it like I want without it being jerky. I used to own a 03 EM2 MT and I still like the feel of a cable throttle better, I may just be old fashioned. My friend's 06 RSX-S is a lot eaiser to drive smoothly.

10-11-2008, 02:28 PM	#434 (permalink)
civic si 888 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: San Diego/Bakersfield, Ca Posts: 174 Romel iTrader: 0 / 0%	I have an '09 Si sedan and it does the same thing. It really doesn't bother me but if they can do something about, then i'll have it fix (if it's free of charge!)

10-12-2008, 10:05 PM	#435 (permalink)
iiVTEC Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Edmond, Oklahoma Posts: 1,054 Eric iTrader: 1 / 100%	I have an 06 si but my VIN doesnt fall into the category but i have the same problem:/ Im going to call my dealership to see what they will do. Has anyone else tried this whos vin didnt fall into the category? did they fix it?

10-27-2008, 11:37 AM	#436 (permalink)
OneEyeMan Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: NJ Age: 53 Posts: 63 Lenny iTrader: 0 / 0%	Does this affect the 09 Si's, or did they take care of the software prior to releasing the 09's? Thanks. OneEyeMan

10-27-2008, 05:59 PM	#438 (permalink)
OneEyeMan Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: NJ Age: 53 Posts: 63 Lenny iTrader: 0 / 0%	Thanks

11-03-2008, 02:14 AM	#439 (permalink)
IceMurder Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Stokesdale, NC Age: 23 Posts: 2,079 Chris iTrader: 3 / 100%	i have the hang as well, takes at least 2 seconds for the rpms to fall when i push the clutch in

11-04-2008, 01:30 AM	#440 (permalink)
woohooSi Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 7 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Has anyone ever tried going to the dealerships with their 08 Si's and asking for a reflash? My 08 sedan still has annoying rev hang and surging/bucking in first gear.