Official Honda Reflash Information - Page 19

SpeedDemon · 12-09-2007, 08:37 PM

Honda Reflash and Hondata are two different things.

Honda Reflash is only for not updated ECU Si's.

simons2k · 12-10-2007, 01:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by igotmysi

is honda's reflash and hondatta's reflash the same? or different? and if you do get a reflash without an intake or a header doesn't it lower your horse power?..

Two different things. Honda reflash corrects the '06 rev hang. Hondata's reflash is a performance based mod....lowers vtec engagement to 4500 or 4600rpm and raises the redline to 8600 rpm.

Based on Hondata, you need to have at least a intake or header to maximize the reflash.

Shreaded · 12-10-2007, 10:51 AM

FINALLY found a dealer who had ANY clue to what i was talking about. taking it in @ 11:30. thanks for the info. hope it makes this better!

igotmysi · 12-10-2007, 02:59 PM

juz went to my honda dealer and said that they wouldnt fix my car cause my VIN is out of range..no0o0oo.....this is ***!!!!!!!!...and also i inform them about the 3rd gear problem...and took for a test drive and the problem ddn't occur...so they can't do anything...wahhhh....btw i have an 07 Si...

Shreaded · 12-11-2007, 09:56 AM

lol. they told me the same thing about my vin. if mine is this bad, i cant even imagine how bad it must have been. so i guess i'm SOL?

buurner · 12-14-2007, 09:43 PM

Yeah I just got my reflash done today and my car drives a million times better. Whwn I took mine to the dealer they already knew what I needed as soon as I pulled in they were like rev hang they said they heard it when my foot hit the clutch. LOL

Toma630 · 12-14-2007, 10:52 PM

i have a AEM cai and a greddy cat-back, will they give me a problem???

dgaddis1 · 01-10-2008, 09:06 AM

Just an update...I just bought an '08 Si Sedan last weekend...it's my first manual tranny. Mine still has the rev hang...but it's only really a problem shifting from first to second. I do NOT have surging in first gear however.

At first I thought the problem was just my driving ability...because I had read months ago about the issues w/the '06's, but I thought the problem had been fixed.

Well...it hasn't been fixed. It's still an issue w/my '08.

Vinc84 · 01-13-2008, 11:52 AM

Sh*t...I fall in the range, but that's a good thing to know about because I've alway wondered why the 1st gear was so jerky. It's like the car is bucking on 1st and 2nd when I take off from a stop usually in the mornings when I just started her up.

Edit:

Got the reflash done this morning, drives nicer - 1st gear doesn't surge at all or as much now

However the service manager informed me personally and on paper that this reflash will only reduce and improve the problem - not eliminate it! Better than nothing though.

Southpaw3612 · 01-14-2008, 09:38 PM

Does this apply to 08 SI Sedans because I have the same problems? I know it says 06, but I experience the same thing. Has anyone got an 08 reflashed?

cambodianricer · 01-19-2008, 06:29 PM

does any 08's have this problem? im not too sure if i do but my last 8 digs of my vin are 8h702609

TelosHedge · 01-20-2008, 03:15 AM

i test drove an 08 sedan two days ago and IMMEDIATELY noticed this problem. i had the same issue in my old srt-4 a couple of years ago but they were just calling that 'normal.' this is definitely worse than my neon, though. the best way i can describe it is like a lag between what your foot is doing and what the engine is doing. its bad. not undrivable bad but annoying enough.

hopefully when i take delivery of my car next week it will not have the same problem...

simons2k · 01-20-2008, 04:58 PM

All Si's, all years up to date have the problem. From what I've read the MY2006 was the worst. That's why Honda had a TSB (factory reflash) on the '06 if you fell in a certain vin range. The '07-'08 supposedly have the new program but my '08 still suffers from rev-hang.

nameofamember · 01-22-2008, 04:14 AM

hey guys, umm I'm kinda new in this site. I have a 07-civic si Sedan. and I just read yalls posts. What is this reflash I'm reading about and can yall help me? If I need to get this reflash for my car? Thanks guys.

nameofamember · 01-22-2008, 04:21 AM

oh by the way my last 8 dig of my vin is 7H715824 does this fall in the range? even though I don't know what range it supposed to fall on? Help!

Shark Tek · 01-22-2008, 06:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simons2k

All Si's, all years up to date have the problem. From what I've read the MY2006 was the worst. That's why Honda had a TSB (factory reflash) on the '06 if you fell in a certain vin range. The '07-'08 supposedly have the new program but my '08 still suffers from rev-hang.

07-08 are pretty okay you should try a 2006 Si you will kill yourself and won't feel all bad after all. I took it to the dealer they say that they did the reflash but after I test it out I feel the same response as before. For me isn't something that is critical but is very annoying.

And yes I drove 07 Si and there is no way that they cab be compared to the 2006 problem.

simons2k · 01-22-2008, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nameofamember

hey guys, umm I'm kinda new in this site. I have a 07-civic si Sedan. and I just read yalls posts. What is this reflash I'm reading about and can yall help me? If I need to get this reflash for my car? Thanks guys.

Two different things. Honda reflash corrects the '06 rev hang. Hondata's reflash is a performance based mod....lowers vtec engagement to 4500 or 4600rpm and raises the redline to 8600 rpm.

Based on Hondata, you need to have at least a intake or header to maximize the reflash.

You won't be needing a reflash from Honda. You might want to get the Hondata Reflash though.

Leonard1818 · 01-22-2008, 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simons2k

Two different things. Honda reflash corrects the '06 rev hang. Hondata's reflash is a performance based mod....lowers vtec engagement to 4500 or 4600rpm and raises the redline to 8600 rpm.

Based on Hondata, you need to have at least a intake or header to maximize the reflash.

You won't be needing a reflash from Honda. You might want to get the Hondata Reflash though.

I thought I read that intakes did little for Si's....does that mean that if you get an intake, you might as well get reflashed?

simons2k · 01-22-2008, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leonard1818

I thought I read that intakes did little for Si's....does that mean that if you get an intake, you might as well get reflashed?

X's intake has proven to be a very effective mod.

Hondata says you need to have at least an intake or header to maximize their performance reflash.

cambodianricer · 01-23-2008, 12:00 AM

doesnt the SI come stock with a "CAI"

01-13-2008, 11:52 AM	#369 (permalink)
Vinc84 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: 301 Posts: 832 Vin¢ iTrader: 11 / 100%	Sht...I fall in the range, but that's a good thing to know about because I've alway wondered why the 1st gear was so jerky. It's like the car is bucking on 1st and 2nd when I take off from a stop usually in the mornings when I just started her up. Edit: Got the reflash done this morning, drives nicer - 1st gear doesn't surge at all or as much now However the service manager informed me personally and on paper that this reflash will only reduce and improve the problem - not eliminate it! Better than nothing though. Last edited by Vinc84; 01-14-2008 at 12:50 PM.*

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Southpaw3612 Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Grover Beach, CA Posts: 27 Ryan iTrader: 0 / 0%	Does this apply to 08 SI Sedans because I have the same problems? I know it says 06, but I experience the same thing. Has anyone got an 08 reflashed? Last edited by Southpaw3612; 01-14-2008 at 09:52 PM.

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12-09-2007, 08:37 PM	#361 (permalink)
SpeedDemon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Miami Baby! Posts: 4,075 They call me, El Diablo. iTrader: 6 / 100%	Honda Reflash and Hondata are two different things. Honda Reflash is only for not updated ECU Si's.

12-10-2007, 10:51 AM	#363 (permalink)
Shreaded Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 280 Rick iTrader: 0 / 0%	FINALLY found a dealer who had ANY clue to what i was talking about. taking it in @ 11:30. thanks for the info. hope it makes this better!

12-10-2007, 02:59 PM	#364 (permalink)
igotmysi Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Los Angeles, CA Age: 20 Posts: 914 Fredrick iTrader: 1 / 100%	juz went to my honda dealer and said that they wouldnt fix my car cause my VIN is out of range..no0o0oo.....this is ***!!!!!!!!...and also i inform them about the 3rd gear problem...and took for a test drive and the problem ddn't occur...so they can't do anything...wahhhh....btw i have an 07 Si...

12-11-2007, 09:56 AM	#365 (permalink)
Shreaded Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 280 Rick iTrader: 0 / 0%	lol. they told me the same thing about my vin. if mine is this bad, i cant even imagine how bad it must have been. so i guess i'm SOL?

12-14-2007, 09:43 PM	#366 (permalink)
buurner Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Memphis,TN Age: 21 Posts: 499 iTrader: 7 / 100%	Yeah I just got my reflash done today and my car drives a million times better. Whwn I took mine to the dealer they already knew what I needed as soon as I pulled in they were like rev hang they said they heard it when my foot hit the clutch. LOL

12-14-2007, 10:52 PM	#367 (permalink)
Toma630 Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 30 iTrader: 0 / 0%	i have a AEM cai and a greddy cat-back, will they give me a problem???

01-10-2008, 09:06 AM	#368 (permalink)
dgaddis1 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Augusta, GA Age: 23 Posts: 158 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Just an update...I just bought an '08 Si Sedan last weekend...it's my first manual tranny. Mine still has the rev hang...but it's only really a problem shifting from first to second. I do NOT have surging in first gear however. At first I thought the problem was just my driving ability...because I had read months ago about the issues w/the '06's, but I thought the problem had been fixed. Well...it hasn't been fixed. It's still an issue w/my '08.

01-19-2008, 06:29 PM	#371 (permalink)
cambodianricer Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Rside Posts: 4,988 Jason iTrader: 6 / 100%	does any 08's have this problem? im not too sure if i do but my last 8 digs of my vin are 8h702609

01-20-2008, 03:15 AM	#372 (permalink)
TelosHedge Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 18 iTrader: 0 / 0%	i test drove an 08 sedan two days ago and IMMEDIATELY noticed this problem. i had the same issue in my old srt-4 a couple of years ago but they were just calling that 'normal.' this is definitely worse than my neon, though. the best way i can describe it is like a lag between what your foot is doing and what the engine is doing. its bad. not undrivable bad but annoying enough. hopefully when i take delivery of my car next week it will not have the same problem...

01-20-2008, 04:58 PM	#373 (permalink)
simons2k Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Valencia, CA Posts: 438 Simon iTrader: 2 / 100%	All Si's, all years up to date have the problem. From what I've read the MY2006 was the worst. That's why Honda had a TSB (factory reflash) on the '06 if you fell in a certain vin range. The '07-'08 supposedly have the new program but my '08 still suffers from rev-hang.

01-22-2008, 04:14 AM	#374 (permalink)
nameofamember Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 10 iTrader: 0 / 0%	hey guys, umm I'm kinda new in this site. I have a 07-civic si Sedan. and I just read yalls posts. What is this reflash I'm reading about and can yall help me? If I need to get this reflash for my car? Thanks guys.

01-22-2008, 04:21 AM	#375 (permalink)
nameofamember Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 10 iTrader: 0 / 0%	oh by the way my last 8 dig of my vin is 7H715824 does this fall in the range? even though I don't know what range it supposed to fall on? Help!

01-23-2008, 12:00 AM	#380 (permalink)
cambodianricer Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Rside Posts: 4,988 Jason iTrader: 6 / 100%	doesnt the SI come stock with a "CAI"