i need a new k20 ....

[esquesk]

so i have an oil leak into my coolant which turned all the fluid in my coolant pipes bright yellow ... and the honda dealer says that they have to basically replace the whole engine as well as maybe the block...

anybody know anything about this?


should be covered by my warrenty but i am a little worried because i do have i/e/h ... i know that this problem should be protected under warrenty but still just a bit nervous..

... 4 thousand miles and i already need a new k20

[nocturnal_si]

So what did the honda people tell you about the Warrenty? If there's a problem then bust out the Mongaluse Act or whatever its called.

[twistedframe]

sounds to me like you may have blown a head gasket or cracked your block. Did they give you the cause of your problem or just tell you what they needed to do to fix it? And the whole engine would include to block so i'm not sure what you mean "and maybe the block" Could they have said replace the head and maybe the block. if that what it is then you probably blew a head gasket, overheated the motor and warped the head. Fortunatly it should be covered under warranty. Good luck and be sure to let us know what happens.

[BLU BY U]

interesting, sounds like a blown head gasket. but like it was said above.....could also be a crack in the block.

[skittleslegend]

Sound like BHG to me. Then again....

[K20Z3Si]

Did you overheat the motor recently or what? Somthing serious had to have happened.

[COMplex]

Why don't you put the OEM parts back on before taking it to a dealer?

[peliROJO]

this will an interesting read over the next few days/weeks. keep us informed!

[jc21]

I've had a blown head gasket before, unless you notice an extreme lack in h/p and what not I doubt it's that. And as stated above, if the dealership hasn't already found out i'd hurry up and take off your intake and header. The exhaust shouldn't pose an issue as far as messing up your engine so there's no need to take that off.

Regardless, some part of that head was faulty from day one so i'm sure warranty will cover that.

[atruhondagrl]

+4 on the headgasket. That blows. The act is the Magnusson- Moss act.

[xc0n]

how would you know if your headgaskets blown

[CaliGuy]

^

Originally Posted by jc21

I've had a blown head gasket before, unless you notice an extreme lack in h/p and what not I doubt it's that.

[jc21]

Well besides the fact that you're h/p would go in the crapper (ESPECIALLY on hills), you're car would be running a bit hotter and would also be leaking coolant.

Now, before a some people get paranoid. A blown head gasket doesn't require you to get a new head and potential complete engine. In this situation though, honda would give the person a new engine based on the fact that if the head gasket was faulty, there could be other engine parts that were faulty so it's best to just drop a new one in so the person doesn't keep coming back with a different problem. Head gaskets are quite cheap, it's the manual labor you pay for them when you have to replace it which makes the overall cost so expensive.

[Skyline4life]

bah, slap some stickers on that car and you'll be back were you started.

But on a serious note, i would put the stock parts back on befor you take it in.

[Torredo]

i believe that the blackbox on the civic will tell Honda exactly what happened right before the engine failure.

- RPM
- SPEED
- AIRFLOW
- Etc...etc....

so if you messed around, you may find yourself diggin in yo wallet!

[Cybergypsy]

yep , Be careful or your next post will be how you hate Honda....LOL good luck

[Torredo]

if this was the case and he had his RPM at 9k and goin 175kmh
then this would be the vehicle owners own fault and shouldnt be
harping down Hondas throat!

we will see....we will see!

[skittleslegend]

Originally Posted by nocturnal_si

So what did the honda people tell you about the Warrenty? If there's a problem then bust out the Mongaluse Act or whatever its called.

Unfortunately, I think it'll do little for him in this case. They have reason to believe something was installed improperly when at least the header was installed, or at the very least, the car was abused because of the aftermarket items. Sounds like a bunch of b.s. to you? It is. However, there's not much else you can do about it.

We all pay to play when it comes to modifying our vehicles.

[Marin]

You have to look at it from a different point as well, would an intake that adds about 10hp really put that much strain on an engine to crack the block? I think honda would have a hard time fighting that. Personally i would at least through on a the stock air box but i think we are all a bit paranoid when it comes to these mods. And as far as the header being installed wrong, i think the only way they could get away with blaming it on that is if someone screwed the hearder bolts in wrong and messed up the block. If honda didnt want us to drive this car hard they wouldnt have a comercial with a guy riding on walls and redling it. In the end honda built this car to compete with cobalts, lancers, and whatever, and if you drive it hard and it breaks then in my opinion honda sold you a car that doesnt meet the standards that they origionally advertised it to do. If they honda thaught this car wasnt going to be driven hard then they should have advertised a grandma cruising down a highway in it.

[skittleslegend]

Originally Posted by Marin

You have to look at it from a different point as well, would an intake that adds about 10hp really put that much strain on an engine to crack the block? I think honda would have a hard time fighting that. Personally i would at least through on a the stock air box but i think we are all a bit paranoid when it comes to these mods. And as far as the header being installed wrong, i think the only way they could get away with blaming it on that is if someone screwed the hearder bolts in wrong and messed up the block. If honda didnt want us to drive this car hard they wouldnt have a comercial with a guy riding on walls and redling it. In the end honda built this car to compete with cobalts, lancers, and whatever, and if you drive it hard and it breaks then in my opinion honda sold you a car that doesnt meet the standards that they origionally advertised it to do. If they honda thaught this car wasnt going to be driven hard then they should have advertised a grandma cruising down a highway in it.

While your points seem valid, the things you choose to do with your vehicle are of your own free will. What you have to understand is, Honda is not responsible for ANY damage or abuse you subject your vehicle to.

What you're saying is almost like those people who use violent video games as a justifiable reason to kill somebody. "The video game made it seem like it was ok for me to do it."


Tech: "Well, how did your Si get all this body damage? Did you get side swiped?"

Customer: "No, but I was watching the commercial and it showed the car going up a wall and I figured since Honda did it, I should sooooo obviously be able to do it...."

Tech: Well we're not going to cover it under the warranty.

Customer: Honda is so stoooopid, yo. They need to recall this car. The advertising CLEARLY shows I should be able to swing from rooftops. Just you wait and see, I'll be back if it doesn't work and you'll fix it cuz I'm gonna get some sticky aftermarket tires and they'll be covered under the Magnuson-Moss Act."
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Sounds ridiculous right? btw, I'm not making fun of you, I'm just flabbergasted by some of the ridiculous things I've seen people say here lately.