how fast si really is?

icen · 06-09-2008, 11:00 PM

I am planning to get an si in a month.
just got a test drive today.
we had 4 people in the car,

The handling is great. I never expected steering to be that sharp from a 21k car.
I love the exhaust note and the overall interior and exterior.
The clutch is one of the easiest clutch I've ever driven.
noticeable throttle lag, but I got used to it after 2 to 3 shifts.

However, I was a bit disappointed on the acceleration. It wasn't the best condition to test the acceleration of a car thought. The road was wet, and there are 4 people in the car. it's 70% humidity and around 40oC outside.

I think I probably need to test drive it again during good weather.

Anyways, just wondering if you guys have any thoughts about the acceleration of the car.

mkozlows · 06-09-2008, 11:08 PM

Four people will make a huge difference. The smaller the car is, the more influence passengers and cargo have (if the car is 4000 pounds empty, adding in four people only adds 20% to the weight; if it's 2000 pounds empty, those same four people might add 40% to the weight), and the Civic is a small car.

Speed-wise, it's not objectively fast, but if if you drive it hard, it feels fast. I maintain that this is a good thing, since a lightly-powered car driven all-out is a lot more fun than a high-powered car driven to a fraction of its capabilities. I know I have a lot more fun pulling out of stoplights with this than I did with the (objectively more powerful) G35.

***KyleBucket*** · 06-09-2008, 11:09 PM

I think its fine. The Si has NO low end torque so we suffer acceleration wise, but in the high end, the car is orgasmic!

But yeah, 4 people in the car + wet roads = no fun.

takeapic · 06-09-2008, 11:10 PM

I find it accelerates good, but the gearing means it revs out quick in 1st.

BladeAZ · 06-09-2008, 11:13 PM

Just to oversimplify it a little bit with estimated quarter mile times based on weight/power:

3200 lb car @ 197hp = 14.75
3800 lb car @ 197hp = 15.62

A full load makes a big difference. Also, this is hp at the wheels, not engine but I figured I'd stop there.

kona_freeride1@hotmail.co · 06-09-2008, 11:15 PM

4 people makes such a HUGE difference i cant even explain. Even when i have my hockey bag in the car i notice a difference. This car feels great when your by yourself but soooooooo much slower each time you add a passenger. Try and get a test drive by yourself, the difference will be astounding.

**truflip** · 06-09-2008, 11:17 PM

The car is quick enough. It probably doesn't feel like that cause it needs more torque.

SoCal07Si · 06-09-2008, 11:18 PM

I have my spare, plus 2 full size wheels in the trunk right now. Been there since saturday and yeah, the cars slower. Its simple science.

**atruhondagrl** · 06-09-2008, 11:24 PM

Go back and test drive without the extra four.

Cbeyer2 · 06-09-2008, 11:27 PM

torque is needed to pull weight, hence semi's and such with relatively low HP but insane torque. We don't really have any of that so it suffers pretty hard when it's full. It's way fast for me by myself and even w/ 1 person it's alright. I don't really like driving like a d*ck if i have more than just me or my friend in the car anyway...

BigNose · 06-10-2008, 02:15 AM

I think the Si is super fast for a Civic, & it's certainly fast enough for me.

DeePStr33tzOfTn · 06-10-2008, 02:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BladeAZ

Just to oversimplify it a little bit with estimated quarter mile times based on weight/power:

3200 lb car @ 197hp = 14.75
3800 lb car @ 197hp = 15.62

A full load makes a big difference. Also, this is hp at the wheels, not engine but I figured I'd stop there.

my si weighs 2830 lbs with me in it and i weigh 160 lbs. and the only difference is i didnt have my spare in teh car.

Bboy_Burst · 06-10-2008, 03:02 AM

from my experience, Si is only fast when there is no one else in the car besides the driver. Si is just as fast as 350z and g35 when comparing stock vs stock acceleration.......

***gOzP*** · 06-10-2008, 03:34 AM

4people and u say the acceleration is slow...hahaha

what about this.. Imagine you biking and suddenly u added 4people in your bike to ride on..wouldnt it be heavier to pedal it? WEIGHT MAN...

JchanFTW · 06-10-2008, 07:32 AM

Try driving with AC on a hot ass day. The Si feels super sluggish. Hot weather+AC+full car = walking speeds.

nayilsi · 06-10-2008, 07:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JchanFTW

Try driving with AC on a hot ass day. The Si feels super sluggish. Hot weather+AC+full car = walking speeds.

***jrotax101*** · 06-10-2008, 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JchanFTW

Try driving with AC on a hot ass day. The Si feels super sluggish. Hot weather+AC+full car = walking speeds.

AC on with Supercharger installed = feels like before the SC was in. haha

BladeAZ · 06-10-2008, 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeePStr33tzOfTn

my si weighs 2830 lbs with me in it and i weigh 160 lbs. and the only difference is i didnt have my spare in teh car.

That was to illustrate how weight matters, not to predict how much his car actually weighed.

PoliticalDookie · 06-10-2008, 10:14 AM

It's not a fast car...it's 3000 pounds with 200hp. Next.

icen · 06-10-2008, 11:35 AM

wow... thanks for all the replies..
So I can fully blame on the hot weather, AC, and 4 people in the car for the slow acceleration.. haha
I'll have to test drive the si again before I make the purchase

06-09-2008, 11:00 PM	#1 (permalink)
icen Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 106 iTrader: 0 / 0%	how fast si really is? I am planning to get an si in a month. just got a test drive today. we had 4 people in the car, The handling is great. I never expected steering to be that sharp from a 21k car. I love the exhaust note and the overall interior and exterior. The clutch is one of the easiest clutch I've ever driven. noticeable throttle lag, but I got used to it after 2 to 3 shifts. However, I was a bit disappointed on the acceleration. It wasn't the best condition to test the acceleration of a car thought. The road was wet, and there are 4 people in the car. it's 70% humidity and around 40oC outside. I think I probably need to test drive it again during good weather. Anyways, just wondering if you guys have any thoughts about the acceleration of the car. Last edited by icen; 06-09-2008 at 11:01 PM.

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truflip Mad Destroyer Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Ottawa, ON Age: 22 Posts: 8,424 iTrader: 11 / 100%	The car is quick enough. It probably doesn't feel like that cause it needs more torque. __________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------ Project 8 - October 2008 Photography Challenge "Physical Traces"

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atruhondagrl Kneel before Zod! Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 23,972 General Zod iTrader: 23 / 100%	Go back and test drive without the extra four. __________________ Rise before zod. AWD is RWD with training wheels.

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mkozlows Junior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 14 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Four people will make a huge difference. The smaller the car is, the more influence passengers and cargo have (if the car is 4000 pounds empty, adding in four people only adds 20% to the weight; if it's 2000 pounds empty, those same four people might add 40% to the weight), and the Civic is a small car. Speed-wise, it's not objectively fast, but if if you drive it hard, it feels fast. I maintain that this is a good thing, since a lightly-powered car driven all-out is a lot more fun than a high-powered car driven to a fraction of its capabilities. I know I have a lot more fun pulling out of stoplights with this than I did with the (objectively more powerful) G35.

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takeapic Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 4 iTrader: 0 / 0%	I find it accelerates good, but the gearing means it revs out quick in 1st.

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BladeAZ Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 247 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Just to oversimplify it a little bit with estimated quarter mile times based on weight/power: 3200 lb car @ 197hp = 14.75 3800 lb car @ 197hp = 15.62 A full load makes a big difference. Also, this is hp at the wheels, not engine but I figured I'd stop there.

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kona_freeride1@hotmail.co Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: victoria, BC, Canada Age: 18 Posts: 48 Colin frederickson iTrader: 0 / 0%	4 people makes such a HUGE difference i cant even explain. Even when i have my hockey bag in the car i notice a difference. This car feels great when your by yourself but soooooooo much slower each time you add a passenger. Try and get a test drive by yourself, the difference will be astounding.

06-09-2008, 11:18 PM	#8 (permalink)
SoCal07Si Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Whitter, So Cali Age: 21 Posts: 12,145 Just call me Daddy iTrader: 1 / 100%	I have my spare, plus 2 full size wheels in the trunk right now. Been there since saturday and yeah, the cars slower. Its simple science.

06-09-2008, 11:27 PM	#10 (permalink)
Cbeyer2 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Naperville/Champaign IL Age: 20 Posts: 653 Chris Beyer iTrader: 0 / 0%	torque is needed to pull weight, hence semi's and such with relatively low HP but insane torque. We don't really have any of that so it suffers pretty hard when it's full. It's way fast for me by myself and even w/ 1 person it's alright. I don't really like driving like a d*ck if i have more than just me or my friend in the car anyway...

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BigNose Junior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 25 iTrader: 0 / 0%	I think the Si is super fast for a Civic, & it's certainly fast enough for me.

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Bboy_Burst Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Union City, CA Age: 21 Posts: 676 13.8@103MPH N/A iTrader: 1 / 100%	from my experience, Si is only fast when there is no one else in the car besides the driver. Si is just as fast as 350z and g35 when comparing stock vs stock acceleration.......

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*gOzP* VIP Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: San Fernando Valley Posts: 1,693 Paul iTrader: 2 / 100%	4people and u say the acceleration is slow...hahaha what about this.. Imagine you biking and suddenly u added 4people in your bike to ride on..wouldnt it be heavier to pedal it? WEIGHT MAN...

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JchanFTW Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 992 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Try driving with AC on a hot ass day. The Si feels super sluggish. Hot weather+AC+full car = walking speeds.

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PoliticalDookie Junior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Vero & Pompano, FL Posts: 29 iTrader: 0 / 0%	It's not a fast car...it's 3000 pounds with 200hp. Next.

06-10-2008, 11:35 AM	#20 (permalink)
icen Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 106 iTrader: 0 / 0%	wow... thanks for all the replies.. So I can fully blame on the hot weather, AC, and 4 people in the car for the slow acceleration.. haha I'll have to test drive the si again before I make the purchase