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Old 05-08-2008, 12:39 AM   #21 (permalink)
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mazda3. for the price, you cant get any other car as economical and as loaded with features
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Old 05-08-2008, 07:41 AM   #22 (permalink)
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The only thing holding me back from the Honda is the build quality issues I have read about extensively on here.
Odds are that you should be fine with the Civic. I would also include the Corolla, except that now it's a new model generation. Read on...

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NO car is perfect. EVER. About the closet thing you could ask for damn near perfection is when your spending several hundred grand on a Lambro, Ferrari and the likes.
I hope you're kidding. Money doesn't buy reliability.

Speaking for the Civic Hybrid, I have had no problems so far in 10 months of ownership. I watched the recalls database and consciously chose to not buy in during the first year of the model's life. With Honda's ethic of continuous improvement, I can be confident that most issues will be permanently worked out during that time. The same can be said of Toyota. The Hybrid model is a very quiet car with road noise being the most noticeable contributor, and even that is benign. It is also an upgrade in some respects to its luxury features.
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Old 05-08-2008, 12:37 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Currently I am focusing on an EX Auto, not sure coupe or sedan yet.
Personally, I found the seats in the Coupe to be more comfortable - at least in the front. Since I don't plan to ride in back, I don't care about how comfy those seats are. LOL.
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Old 05-08-2008, 12:42 PM   #24 (permalink)
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I hope you're kidding. Money doesn't buy reliability.
If your spending a few hundred grand for a car, I beg to differ.
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Old 05-08-2008, 08:44 PM   #25 (permalink)
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I would say that a lot of money will guarantee you that panel gaps are perfect and that the fit and finish are well done, but it is a known fact that super-exotics are very needy in servicing. Even a luxury brand like Mercedes-Benz gets the honour of having the worst track record in Consumer Reports reliability ratings.

JD Power doesn't have the super-exotics in their dependability ratings, but they do list a number of premium sporty cars that should easily be in the low six-figure price range. See for yourself how they stack up.

Those who spend that degree of money on a car don't really care about reliability and are prepared to do whatever it takes to maintain them. The reward is the exclusivity, and a few other things. Heck, some elite MB owners would keep theirs for only the first year and roll-over to the latest and greatest. They don't care about loss of depreciation but they don't want to deal with the expected electrical failures that plague European imports after the first year.
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Old 05-08-2008, 09:39 PM   #26 (permalink)
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every car has a rattle, unless your going to spend over 50 grand. its normal.
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I have an 07 EX coupe. My car had rattles and the brakes squeeked towards the end of winter. Now all of those problems have dissappeared. My only problem is the mileage. I'm supposed to get 35 city. I took it slow for a week, keeping the revs low, staying in the right lane, and I saw barely any difference and got like 27mpg. I usually get 25mpg when I drive it hard.
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Old 05-08-2008, 10:45 PM   #28 (permalink)
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I have an 07 EX coupe. My car had rattles and the brakes squeeked towards the end of winter. Now all of those problems have dissappeared. My only problem is the mileage. I'm supposed to get 35 city. I took it slow for a week, keeping the revs low, staying in the right lane, and I saw barely any difference and got like 27mpg. I usually get 25mpg when I drive it hard.
Oddly enough, a 2008 Civic EX Coupe is rated at 25 City / 36 Highway. I assume you should be in the same range no matter what your estimates may say. Or hell, maybe I'm wrong.
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Oddly enough, a 2008 Civic EX Coupe is rated at 25 City / 36 Highway. I assume you should be in the same range no matter what your estimates may say. Or hell, maybe I'm wrong.
are you serious? wtfffffffff! haha
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Old 05-08-2008, 11:45 PM   #30 (permalink)
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are you serious? wtfffffffff! haha
Yes.

I may be wrong, but I've heard from several people that the reason it changed is because the government cracked in due to high fuel costs and made them post the actual miles per gallon rating rather than upping it just a bit. Of course, these were just a few random people so the information could be incorrect.
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Yes.

I may be wrong, but I've heard from several people that the reason it changed is because the government cracked in due to high fuel costs and made them post the actual miles per gallon rating rather than upping it just a bit. Of course, these were just a few random people so the information could be incorrect.
I knew 40mpg highway and 35mpg city was too good to be true!

But on the other hand... on the evo forum I'm on one guy said he gets like 30mpg... wtf?! haha
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Yes.

I may be wrong, but I've heard from several people that the reason it changed is because the government cracked in due to high fuel costs and made them post the actual miles per gallon rating rather than upping it just a bit. Of course, these were just a few random people so the information could be incorrect.
I think you mean the EPA's mileage adjustment figures for 2008 models and over.
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Old 05-09-2008, 12:13 AM   #33 (permalink)
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I think you mean the EPA's mileage adjustment figures for 2008 models and over.
There you go.
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every car has a rattle, unless your going to spend over 50 grand. its normal.
Not necessarily true - my 02 Accord and 06 Sienna don't have rattles and the two of them together were well under 50 grand new.
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my 06 had one recall, for a belt other then that no issues,,,but the interier is hard to keep black at it fades to a bad gray in 6 months of use......leather will now solve that issues :)
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I have an 07 civic lx... the fabulous r18. I have had it since April 1st of 07. I have changed the oil twice. Thus far it averages 5200 miles an oil change. I use synth mobil 1 with the recommended weight and a matching mobil 1 oil filter. I buy gas at costco 87. The engine never knocks. I am an average driver. I live in Arizona and the temp right now on average is 95+ during the day. My car does not rattle, my seats are comfortable, I drive mainly in the city and I go about 390-410 miles a tank of gas. I have not had any chipping or fading problems with my paint. The way I think about all of the problems and whatnot with peoples cars. I just say this, 80 percent operator and 20 percent vehicle. If your bumper is all chipped up from rocks. Stop tailgating the guy infront of you. all you need to do is just take care of your car. The little things help the most.
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Old 05-09-2008, 06:34 PM   #37 (permalink)
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So I'm currently deciding between the Civic EX, Corolla S, and Mazda 3i Touring Value.

Now that all 3 manufacturers are offering 1.9% financing (0% in the case of Toyota) this month, I have decided it is finally time to pull the trigger.

The only thing holding me back from the Honda is the build quality issues I have read about extensively on here.

I know the 2006 model had quite a few issues being the first model year, and I know the SI has had it's own issues. I would THINK that most of the kinks have been worked out by this years model, correct? It seems there are still some people complaining about paint chips and other minor things, but have the majority of the mechanical issues been worked out?

Every indication points to me getting the Civic, but the bad things I've heard about the 8th gen have me worried.
go buy something else, youll be sorry. In fact, go buy a nissan, i just replaced a transmission and wiring harness for a customer, they had 314 miles on the car. get a honda.
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[quote="Ridge"Racer;2794891]go buy something else, youll be sorry. In fact, go buy a nissan, i just replaced a transmission and wiring harness for a customer, they had 314 miles on the car. get a honda.[/QUOTE]

Ok so you are contradicting yourself... and your on a honda forum telling people to buy a nissan??

Whats wrong with this picture?

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go buy something else, youll be sorry. In fact, go buy a nissan, i just replaced a transmission and wiring harness for a customer, they had 314 miles on the car. get a honda.[/QUOTE]

Ok so you are contradicting yourself... and your on a honda forum telling people to buy a nissan??

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go buy something else, youll be sorry. In fact, go buy a nissan, i just replaced a transmission and wiring harness for a customer, they had 314 miles on the car. get a honda.[/QUOTE]

Ok so you are contradicting yourself... and your on a honda forum telling people to buy a nissan??

Whats wrong with this picture?

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