R18 vs D16

Ep3racer954 · 04-06-2006, 03:05 PM

seeing as how people have made mad numbers on the d16 SOHC VTEC, how do you think the R18 will compare??? will the R18 be the next D16??? opinions, comments, flaming... whatever.. personally, the R18 is the new technology and i think that if companies work with it, they can really make this a bad ass engine.

CHRIS · 04-06-2006, 03:08 PM

i hope so for my own sake

skittleslegend · 04-06-2006, 04:04 PM

Actually, I've heard the Fit's 1.5L is closer to the D16 than the R18 is.

Scourge · 04-06-2006, 09:50 PM

K20 > R18
B18 > B16 > D16
B18 > R18 > D16

B16 >? R18 At least that last one is my guess anyway. I didn't include the D17. I think it's pretty close to the D16 tho.

I think you should have started with an Si if you wanted performance.

Ep3racer954 · 04-07-2006, 01:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scourge

I think you should have started with an Si if you wanted performance.

i have an si... but there are D16 SOHC vtec's running 10 second passes! that crazy!!! i just wanted to know if the R18 is going to be the next D16

quackattack88 · 02-18-2008, 03:22 PM

im a noob, so what is a D16?

lightlypurified · 02-18-2008, 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quackattack88

im a noob, so what is a D16?

engine on previous gen civic sohc vtec fack a honda fit slow turtle r18 wil take it out.

Ct_Sidan07 · 02-18-2008, 03:27 PM

b16 does not compare to the r18... the r18 may compare to the b18a or b18b... these are both ls motors which make 130 and 140

***8thgenuser*** · 02-18-2008, 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quackattack88

im a noob, so what is a D16?

It's a prefix for an engine code of the family of engines found in some late 80's/early 90's Integras and Civics.

More info on the D-family of Honda Engines here:
Honda D engine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Dickotine · 02-25-2008, 11:59 AM

D16 OWNED!!!! And it has all boltons!

lowerlevel · 02-25-2008, 06:35 PM

well i have a d16y7 in my crx and it it faster than the r18 civic.. now on the other hand if i was to put the r18 in the rex it would be faster im sure!!

pks17 · 02-25-2008, 08:06 PM

I think my d16z6 or was it d16a6? in my old stock 88 crx si could outrun my current R18.
Im pretty sure of it, to add insult to injury, i also got 500-600kms on every 45L gas tank.
BUT, my crx didnt have power windows, locks, AC, any airbags at all, and was pretty rough, rugged and noisy compared to the 8th gen civic. I think the newest civic is comparable to the 94-97 honda accords ex which i also had.

meeks · 02-25-2008, 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pks17

I think my d16z6 or was it d16a6? in my old stock 88 crx si could outrun my current R18.
Im pretty sure of it, to add insult to injury, i also got 500-600kms on every 45L gas tank.
BUT, my crx didnt have power windows, locks, AC, any airbags at all, and was pretty rough, rugged and noisy compared to the 8th gen civic. I think the newest civic is comparable to the 94-97 honda accords ex which i also had.

same! i had an ef9 back in the day and i completely agree. but in fairness, ef9s were very light compared to fa1s and fg1s

bui1528 · 03-31-2010, 07:18 PM

i went against my friends LS one time in my R18 and beat him. of course it was by prolly a couple inches.

depends on condition of the engine too. ahah
of course if ur talking about the b16ax or b18cx then yeah. ur gnna lose. vtak ftw.

VTEC_4_LIFE · 03-31-2010, 08:00 PM

give it time and im sure itll happen but in the end im sure the R wont get the same support as any of the older single cams, be it the Ds or even the Fs, just because the difference in the i-VTEC SOHC and the whole low-end-engagement stuff ass opposed to the traditional high-end-engagement

in the end though its like the old saying goes 'theres no replacement for displacement'

annefrank · 03-31-2010, 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 8thgenuser

It's a prefix for an engine code of the family of engines found in some late 80's/early 90's Integras and Civics.

More info on the D-family of Honda Engines here:
Honda D engine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

i had a d16y8 in my 98 ex. my brother has a d block in his 2001 civic too

r18 gets em both

Apexracing · 04-01-2010, 02:44 AM

r18 owns ls integras in my area.

xplicit503 · 04-01-2010, 09:13 PM

Honda Mag took the engine apart a while back:
"Bolt on the fuel rail, drop the mill in, and we're done. 140hp and 129lb-ft of torque, that's a 1.8L motor with LS power and Type R torque. Not bad for a base model, huh?"

R18 Engine - EGR Valve - Honda Tuning Magazine click the last photo caption.

I'd say there is room for improvement, but I think we will reach the risk is higher than gain situation rather quickly.

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lowerlevel Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Austin tx baby Age: 34 Posts: 1,996 dave	well i have a d16y7 in my crx and it it faster than the r18 civic.. now on the other hand if i was to put the r18 in the rex it would be faster im sure!!

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pks17 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 2,542	I think my d16z6 or was it d16a6? in my old stock 88 crx si could outrun my current R18. Im pretty sure of it, to add insult to injury, i also got 500-600kms on every 45L gas tank. BUT, my crx didnt have power windows, locks, AC, any airbags at all, and was pretty rough, rugged and noisy compared to the 8th gen civic. I think the newest civic is comparable to the 94-97 honda accords ex which i also had.

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bui1528 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Allen, TX Posts: 1,050 Michael	i went against my friends LS one time in my R18 and beat him. of course it was by prolly a couple inches. depends on condition of the engine too. ahah of course if ur talking about the b16ax or b18cx then yeah. ur gnna lose. vtak ftw.

03-31-2010, 08:00 PM	#15 (permalink)
VTEC_4_LIFE Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 4,083	give it time and im sure itll happen but in the end im sure the R wont get the same support as any of the older single cams, be it the Ds or even the Fs, just because the difference in the i-VTEC SOHC and the whole low-end-engagement stuff ass opposed to the traditional high-end-engagement in the end though its like the old saying goes 'theres no replacement for displacement'

04-01-2010, 02:44 AM	#17 (permalink)
Apexracing Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: elbridge, ny Age: 27 Posts: 94 Jonathan	r18 owns ls integras in my area.

04-01-2010, 09:13 PM	#18 (permalink)
xplicit503 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Eugene, OR Posts: 1,739 Brian	Honda Mag took the engine apart a while back: "Bolt on the fuel rail, drop the mill in, and we're done. 140hp and 129lb-ft of torque, that's a 1.8L motor with LS power and Type R torque. Not bad for a base model, huh?" R18 Engine - EGR Valve - Honda Tuning Magazine click the last photo caption. I'd say there is room for improvement, but I think we will reach the risk is higher than gain situation rather quickly.

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