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Old 06-22-2007, 12:21 PM   #1 (permalink)
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LX Manual Performance

I'm currently driving a Scion tC w/ manual trans. I'm looking for a car that is fun but is a better fit for my family so I'm considering the LX Sedan with a manual trans.

I checked Car and Driver and they have an article with the "Fastest Cars under $20,000.00". The base civic w/ 5 speed is number 8, while the tC is number 5 at only a few tenths of a second faster.

So my question is, does the Civic FEEL fast? I've read that it handles well, but I don't want to sacrifice a lot of the pep that the tC has. Does anyone have first hand experience driving both the Civic and the tC with manual transmissions?

BTW, an SI is out of the question!

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Old 06-22-2007, 12:27 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I'm currently driving a Scion tC w/ manual trans. I'm looking for a car that is fun but is a better fit for my family so I'm considering the LX Sedan with a manual trans.

I checked Car and Driver and they have an article with the "Fastest Cars under $20,000.00". The base civic w/ 5 speed is number 8, while the tC is number 5 at only a few tenths of a second faster.

So my question is, does the Civic FEEL fast? I've read that it handles well, but I don't want to sacrifice a lot of the pep that the tC has. Does anyone have first hand experience driving both the Civic and the tC with manual transmissions?

BTW, an SI is out of the question!

THANKS!!!
i never drove TC but i had corolla and compare to that LX/EX is fast.
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Old 06-22-2007, 12:38 PM   #3 (permalink)
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the lx is not fast. if you want faster go for si!
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the lx is not fast. if you want faster go for si!
I don't want fast, I want "similar" performance to the tC.

Did I mention the SI is out of the question?
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Let me add a little to my original question...does Car and Driver's figure of 0-60 in 7.7 seconds sound reasonable for what the LX/EX manual is capable of?
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Old 06-22-2007, 01:09 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Words will only do so much. You should drop by a dealership and give the car a spin and see what you think of it. I think that would be your best bet. Speaking from personal experience though, I went from an LX and Si. The LX engine has a lot of prep for 1.8L. I mean, it's only 140 horses, but it sure as hell felt a lot faster than that. Keep in mind the EP3 stock is 160 hp, so it's not bad for what it has offer.
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I don't want fast, I want "similar" performance to the tC.

Did I mention the SI is out of the question?

2008 SCION TC

Engine Specification 2.4L 161 hp I4
Horsepower 161 @ 6000 RPM
Torque (lb-ft) 162 @ 4000 RPM
Valve Configuration 16/DOHC

2007 CIVIC DX/LX/EX

Engine Specifications 1.8L 140 hp I4
Horsepower 140 @ 6300 RPM
Torque (lb-ft) 128 @ 4300 RPM
Valve Configuration 16/SOHC


SCION has more power more torque
but CIVIC has

i hope it will help
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Old 06-22-2007, 03:44 PM   #8 (permalink)
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the lx is not fast. if you want faster go for si!



read the post please! my friend has a Scion Tc five speed and i have the ex... her car has more power and torque than mine does but i feel mine is more fun to drive... like mentioned earlier, head to the dealership and take one for a spin i'm sure you won't be disappointed
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It pulls pretty well through first and second, but third on it feels way too slow. My buddies 95 integra felt faster. I'd keep the tC, if you want something that "feels fast" don't go for the LX.
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Old 06-23-2007, 08:36 PM   #10 (permalink)
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It's A Honda

It's a 4 cylinder engine and the car cost $17,000-$18,000. What do you expect? The Honda has bettering styling, handling, gas mileage, and most of all "It's a Honda" which has the best resale of any car under $25,000 on the market today.
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Old 06-23-2007, 10:57 PM   #11 (permalink)
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before i took the plunge i was debating between those same cars, went for the lx, for a while i wasnt sure if i had done the right thing, but after having the car for 9 months i am glad i picked the civic, i wouldnt trade it for the tc, love the way it performs in city traffic and i was pleasantly surprised at how good it drives on the freeway, has a pretty consistent and steaddy power output troughout the rpm range,.
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my civic lx hang with an 07 maxima from 0 to like 90 mph, buy he did had 3 people on his car and i hade nobody.. 20 horses is nothing so just get the civic and you will be happy..
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2007 civic lx manual: 0-60 in 7.7
2007 civic si: 0-60 in 7.2

quite impressive.
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2008 SCION TC

Engine Specification 2.4L 161 hp I4
Horsepower 161 @ 6000 RPM
Torque (lb-ft) 162 @ 4000 RPM
Valve Configuration 16/DOHC

2007 CIVIC DX/LX/EX

Engine Specifications 1.8L 140 hp I4
Horsepower 140 @ 6300 RPM
Torque (lb-ft) 128 @ 4300 RPM
Valve Configuration 16/SOHC


SCION has more power more torque
but CIVIC has

i hope it will help
Haha yeah the civic has vtec that helps you save gas and not have that kick like the SI
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Haha yeah the civic has vtec that helps you save gas and not have that kick like the SI
here we go again non-si VS si

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I have driven the TC and the Civic EX. The TC is faster for sure and it feels it. I do not regret my decision on getting the civic though, I honestly do think its a better car over all. All other things aside, the TC is a more powerful car. It is retarded to argue otherwise.
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Old 06-30-2007, 01:36 PM   #17 (permalink)
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i use to have a auto tc and got a auto ex after getting hit by a drunk driver. i know you're talking about manual and manual but i think auto and auto shouldn't be that much different(comparing auto to auto)? i gotta say the tc is way more fun to drive then the ex. and tc has more aftermarket parts than the regular civic. i say... keep the tc?
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Old 06-30-2007, 02:11 PM   #18 (permalink)
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I was highly impressed with the ex manual, great pep and off the line its great. I have not driven the tc but I do know that the lx/ex is great for the get up and go among other things, resale etc
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