DX/LX/EX: Your Gas Mileage

[Intrepid175]

Originally Posted by Snapnek

2006 Civic Sedan LX automatic just did first oil change at 7,500 miles, was getting 28 mpg before, now getting 28 mpg. What the heck is this about? I bought this car because of the sticker saying 30mpg city to 40mpg highway. Who do I direct my lawsuit at, Honda Motor Company or the Dealership? I would have bought a bigger car like an Accord or Camry and could this kind of mileage and have alot more room. I had a Honda Odyessy that never ever got close the the mileage stated on the sticker. I'm not going to take this laying down. Any suggestions?
Thanks,
Mike:Mad: :Mad:

It's your money to waste!

Neither Honda Motor Company nor the dealership have anything to do with EPA estimates. Almost no one gets what the sticker says anyway. It depends almost totally on how YOU drive the car.

I traded an '01 Odyssey for my Civic. It EPA'd 18 city and 25 highway. My local driving almost always involves some freeway work and I usually averaged in the mid 19's for my local driving. After 85,000 miles, I probably averaged around 24 on the highway although I had tanks run as low as 22 and as high as 29.5 depending on the conditions. My Civic is going about the same. So far, again because of how my local driving adds up, I'm getting a little better than that 30 mpg city and overall have averaged 36 to 37 mpg on the highway with the low tanks being in the low 35's and the high tanks being in the upper 39's.

Bottom line, if you're getting within a couple of mpg of the EPA's 30 city "estimate", then you don't have anything to gripe about.

Sorry!

Steve R.

[Snapnek]

Waste is right! If I was getting close to the window sticker I would be ok. I'm getting a steady 28mpg no matter city or hwy driving. It's my wife's car and she not a speeder. Plus my city driving is about 70% hwy. I live in a very small town and we don't have alot of stop and go traffic. I also had a Honda Odyssey and it got 12-15 mpg and I took in the dealership several times and all they told me was that it had to get "broken" in good. Well when I traded it in with 80,000 it still wasn't "broken" in good. If I continue to get 28 mpg then I will do my best to get rid of HONDA for good and will bad mouth the HONDA product to everyone I talk to. May not matter to Honda or the dealership but it will matter to me!!
Bottom line is that I DO have something to gripe about! If the stickers don't even come close to actual mileage, then don't put the stupid things on the cars. The MPG is the main selling feature that caused me to go with another Honda. It will more than likely be my LAST.:Mad:

[psyshack]

Originally Posted by Snapnek

Waste is right! If I was getting close to the window sticker I would be ok. I'm getting a steady 28mpg no matter city or hwy driving. It's my wife's car and she not a speeder. Plus my city driving is about 70% hwy. I live in a very small town and we don't have alot of stop and go traffic. I also had a Honda Odyssey and it got 12-15 mpg and I took in the dealership several times and all they told me was that it had to get "broken" in good. Well when I traded it in with 80,000 it still wasn't "broken" in good. If I continue to get 28 mpg then I will do my best to get rid of HONDA for good and will bad mouth the HONDA product to everyone I talk to. May not matter to Honda or the dealership but it will matter to me!!
Bottom line is that I DO have something to gripe about! If the stickers don't even come close to actual mileage, then don't put the stupid things on the cars. The MPG is the main selling feature that caused me to go with another Honda. It will more than likely be my LAST.:Mad:

I would say ,,, and you don't want to hear it a drivers problem. We own a 05 Accord EX Sedan 5at, I4. The very worst mpg Ive gotten out of the car is 22 mpg jetting across Oklahoma back roads with the CC. set at5 100 mph. The very worst Ive ever gotten out of my 06 Civic EX Sedan,,, 5mt is 29 mpg. And that was rat racing the hell out of it. I fell vic. to a bad ECU in my Civic and mpg went thru the floor. Granted....... 90%of the time I drive in hypermiling mode.

But don't set there and tell me Hondas,,, as a matter of fact get bad mpg! They can and will get steller mpg in the hands of a normal driver and way above ave. in the hands of a skilled driver. You have got bad mpg in two Hondas. That tells me you aren't telling the truth about over all driving habit's. Or you don't know when a car running right or wrong.

My wife has a 33 mpg ave. in her Accord driving 80 plus miles per day. And she is not a mpg driver. The car has almost 50k miles on it. I have 33k miles on my Civic and have a 43 mpg ave. And at times Im not kind to either car. As a matter of fact,,, I can be brutal on the cars.

Also,,, look at the fine print numbers on your EPA window sticker. Not the big ones.... the fine print.... Then look at the new EPA numbers that are out now. Then get honest....

Think about it!!!

psy

[truflip]

^^ you must be using UK gallons...
29mpg on ex 5mt rat racing.. wow..

[Snapnek]

I'm being honest about the way the car is driven, my wife/mother of 2 children, is not a speed demon, like yourself. I have gotten 2 Hondas with poor MPG and that's a fact. I will continue to DOG the 2 HONDAS I have owned to everyone I know. Why in the heck would I make this crap up? The Civic is a small car with a small engine and is driven by my wife and gets no better than 28mpg, comeon dude get real. There has to be a problem somewhere. I don't want to here about fine print. It should be getting over 28 mpg now matter what!! I think it's Toyota time.

[truflip]

^^ i know what u mean n i belive u cuz im the exact same situation...

[K757]

On my 1600 mi round trip last week, I consistently got 36-37 mpg @ 80 mph with shifting at ~4k rpm. Not bad.

I am now at ~11.4k miles

[klipsch41]

I do have to say that I'm not getting as great gas mileage as I thought I would be getting. I've kept track of the mileage & whatnot since I got my '06 EX Sedan AT in Atomic Blue 09/01/2006.

For the first 3 months, Sept to Dec, during the weekdays, I'd average about 300+ miles per week. I'd drive my car to & from work which was about 2 miles away. Most of this 300 miles was highway driving to & from Rochester & the Twin Cities, which is a kind of hilly highway. I'd average anywhere from 65-80, mainly near the higher end though. Not really lead-footing it anywhere, I'd do gradual acceleration & try not to do too much gunning it in the city.

Starting in January, I returned back to school in MI, and from Jan to now, has been mostly on-campus driving, with drives lasting about 10-15 minutes as places are pretty close. Two road trips during this time, first one to Chicago w/ 3 other passengers & the other to Toronto w/ one other passenger.



(The green highlights the "BEST" & the red highlights the "WORST")

I know I can't really describe 6 months of driving, but to summarize:
- I'm a somewhat aggressive driver.
- I like to go about 70+ on highways when I can.
- I don't really gun it off the start
- In the winter, I let it "warm up" no longer than a minute before I drive.
- I did use the heat quite a bit as winters in the Midwest are a bit cold.
- My CD/MP3 player is almost always on.
- Cruise control every once in a while, but only on longer trips.

So far, only changed oil once, planning on changing again really soon, hopefully with a Mobil 1 filter & either full synthetic or synthetic blend, but if I don't have the time or don't have the facilities, I may just go to the Honda dealer by me & have them do it.

Don't know how some of you are getting 40+ MPG, but that's just amazing.

[K757]

Originally Posted by klipsch41

I know I can't really describe 6 months of driving, but to summarize:
- I'm a somewhat aggressive driver.
- I like to go about 70+ on highways when I can.
- I don't really gun it off the start
- In the winter, I let it "warm up" no longer than a minute before I drive.
- I did use the heat quite a bit as winters in the Midwest are a bit cold.
- My CD/MP3 player is almost always on.
- Cruise control every once in a while, but only on longer trips.

Don't know how some of you are getting 40+ MPG, but that's just amazing.

well done on the grid!

LX coupe manual tranny here. I shift at 4k RPM or more every time and average 30-32 mpg when mostly city driving. When I travel on the interstates (cruise control 75-85 mph) for a tank full with a couple rest area stops, I consistently get 37-38 mpg. No telling how much I could increase that if I shifted like a normal person. ..... maybe I am shifting normally for Civic coupe owners :SHOCKED:

[Intrepid175]

Originally Posted by klipsch41

I do have to say that I'm not getting as great gas mileage as I thought I would be getting.

I know I can't really describe 6 months of driving, but to summarize:
- I'm a somewhat aggressive driver.
- I like to go about 70+ on highways when I can.

So far, only changed oil once, planning on changing again really soon, hopefully with a Mobil 1 filter & either full synthetic or synthetic blend, but if I don't have the time or don't have the facilities, I may just go to the Honda dealer by me & have them do it.

Don't know how some of you are getting 40+ MPG, but that's just amazing.

Kudos on the details! Having reviewed your data, I'd have to say that, considering how you admit to driving, I think you're getting pretty darn good fuel economy.

You admit to being an aggressive driver. I'm assuming that means relatively aggressive acceleration? That uses fuel! You cruise at 70+ whenever you can? Just a little fact in case you didn't know, aerodynamic drag goes up as the square of the speed. In other words, if you double how fast you're going, you quadruple the drag. For every mph you increase your speed, you're increasing the drag on the car by that much more. That uses fuel!

Want to know how to approach 40 mph? I can think of two things right off the bat. 1) Take your foot out of the radiator on acceleration and 2) slow down on those trips! On a 50 mile trip, driving 60 instead of 70 will only take you about 7 minutes longer to get there and I think you'd be amazed at how much better your fuel consumption will be.

As for the oil change, by all means, get it done if it's time. Always maintain the car as best you can for best performance and economy but don't expect an oil change, in and of itself, to make a significant difference in your fuel consumption. The way you admit to driving, it's a very small percentage of what's going on.

I know this probably isn't what you wanted to hear and it's hard to break lifetime habits (been there, done that!) but it is what'll make a difference in the long run.

Good luck!
Steve R.

[Rems07si]

sorry but this is a dumb ? please help
can someone tell me the best way to check Gas Mileage?

[K757]

Originally Posted by Rems07si

sorry but this is a dumb ? please help
can someone tell me the best way to check Gas Mileage?

never a dumb question, just dumb people. HAHAH, just kidding.

1) Ideally, pick a pump and fill it up, (one click two clicks, three clicks) whatever you like, just remember how many you had.)
2) reset your trip meter
3) drive around for at least 3/4 tank to get anomalies worked out.
4) go to the exact same pump and fill it up eactly the same way as before with teh number of clicks.
5) divide... the miles traveled (trip meter) / gallons (in tenths... like 8.3 gal) = mpg

[Rems07si]

cool thanks!

[Rems07si]

i wish there was way to check you gas mileage in the your dash or navi even my dad's 97 towncar has a button to check how many gas miles your getting a mile that's in 97 ford and i have an 07 and we have to do the math don't make sense to me.

[ethlar]

Originally Posted by Rems07si

i wish there was way to check you gas mileage in the your dash or navi even my dad's 97 towncar has a button to check how many gas miles your getting a mile that's in 97 ford and i have an 07 and we have to do the math don't make sense to me.

i dont have the civic nav, but the accord nav can track your economy and display real time economy, calculate distance to empty and what not, i would have assumed the civic would be able to do the same

[Intrepid175]

Originally Posted by Rems07si

cool thanks!

K757 is spot on on the directions. The only thing I'd add is to recommend that you do this over a number of tanks to get an overall average. It's possible to have, for any number of reasons, a tank that is unusually high or unusually low. Let us know what you come up with!

Drive Safe,
Steve R.

[Intrepid175]

Originally Posted by ethlar

i dont have the civic nav, but the accord nav can track your economy and display real time economy, calculate distance to empty and what not, i would have assumed the civic would be able to do the same

Unfortunately no. The Civic Nav, at least my '06 model, doesn't give any economy data for the car. Just the routing, time and distance to destination, etc.

Drive Safe,
Steve R.

[Rems07si]

Originally Posted by ethlar

i dont have the civic nav, but the accord nav can track your economy and display real time economy, calculate distance to empty and what not, i would have assumed the civic would be able to do the same

i have tried and no luck so fare but thanks hope some one can help with finding out how to do if i am wrong

[Rems07si]

Originally Posted by Intrepid175

Unfortunately no. The Civic Nav, at least my '06 model, doesn't give any economy data for the car. Just the routing, time and distance to destination, etc.

Drive Safe,
Steve R.

well there is my answer and i have an 07 but dont think it works anyway and thanks Intrepid175

[curnaco]

I got 501 miles with NO bars left. This car is amazing!!!!! (07 LX Coupe)