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Lambo123 · 04-04-2011, 09:31 PM

we tried installing a set of these a few nights ago. turns out they were ground off. i'm pretty disappointed. literally everything (especially regarding the timing) was checked. they did like 5 or 6 valve/hot lash adjustments as well. the shop has done MANY k-series cam installs and this was the first time they ever had problems. even derek at innovative chalked it up to bad cams. i hope this is just a one time problem as i've seen ips, skunk2, etc. cams that were off as well. currently sending them back and will be ordering prayoonto 2's.

spdandpwr · 04-04-2011, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Lambo123

we tried installing a set of these a few nights ago. turns out they were ground off. i'm pretty disappointed. literally everything (especially regarding the timing) was checked. they did like 5 or 6 valve/hot lash adjustments as well. the shop has done MANY k-series cam installs and this was the first time they ever had problems. even derek at innovative chalked it up to bad cams. i hope this is just a one time problem as i've seen ips, skunk2, etc. cams that were off as well. currently sending them back and will be ordering prayoonto 2's.

wtf, what's up with k's and bad cams...this platform has had more problems with after market cams than any other I've seen and I've been modding/in this scene for 8 years

tjwashow · 04-04-2011, 10:11 PM

how much are these cams? And how much to get installed?

spdandpwr · 04-05-2011, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by tjwashow

how much are these cams? And how much to get installed?

expect just under 1k for the cams and installation...including valve lash. Installation will not include tct though.

kseriestuner · 04-05-2011, 12:45 PM

cams were ordered today! should be installed and tuned within the next 2 weeks, ill post before/after dyno! and after that before/after with IM/TB!

fid3L · 04-05-2011, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by kseriestuner

cams were ordered today! should be installed and tuned within the next 2 weeks, ill post before/after dyno! and after that before/after with IM/TB!

spdandpwr · 04-05-2011, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by kseriestuner

cams were ordered today! should be installed and tuned within the next 2 weeks, ill post before/after dyno! and after that before/after with IM/TB!

Thanks! let us know if you have any issues too

kseriestuner · 04-05-2011, 06:43 PM

ya lets hope not...

tjwashow · 04-05-2011, 11:05 PM

would you say that these cams would be a better investment than say a RH and catback? What does this do for reliability/dd?

spdandpwr · 04-06-2011, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by tjwashow

would you say that these cams would be a better investment than say a RH and catback? What does this do for reliability/dd?

rh and catback are way more reliable. cams don't add real power without supporting mods.

fid3L · 04-06-2011, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by spdandpwr

rh and catback are way more reliable. cams don't add real power without supporting mods.

and a good tune!

kseriestuner · 04-06-2011, 12:10 PM

make sure you get your basic bolt-ons before something more major like cams. without the basics you wont see the gains. RH and catback paired with an intake and hondata w/tune will yield good gains, then look into IM/TB (or boost), then cams

spdandpwr · 04-06-2011, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by kseriestuner

make sure you get your basic bolt-ons before something more major like cams. without the basics you wont see the gains. RH and catback paired with an intake and hondata w/tune will yield good gains, then look into IM/TB (or boost), then cams

I didn't notice any 'real' gains with IM/TB/Injectors/e-Tune

I'm still neck and neck with i/h/e albeit the one's with quality parts

kris5597 · 04-06-2011, 12:33 PM

you wont notice many gains at all with IM/TB on stock cams. Those supporting mods are targeted for cams with more lift and duration with stock. on the dyno some small amount of HP can be gained from those mods but we are talking very minor increase. also depends on the particular intake, header, and exhaust. these things must flow good as well...

Mister Two · 04-06-2011, 10:21 PM

I've recently seen two Si's show gains from cams while running lightly modded. One w/ Skunk2 Stage 1 and the other Stage 2 cams, both on Flashpro.

kseriestuner · 04-11-2011, 08:30 PM

you will see some gains but without more air entering the motor (ie intake mani/tb), you won't get the full potential. power comes from more efficient motors, you need flow both in and out of the motor. increase fuel and air flow my friends, its a combustion engine afterall

kris5597 · 04-12-2011, 10:21 AM

think of an engine as a giant air bump. the faster you can move air through it the faster it will go. the least amount of restrictions and turbulence causing bends and kinks the better. cams just allow for more air to fill the combustion chamber. i wouldn't do cams unless i did every bolt on possible to insure i get the max out of the cams.

FNguitarguy · 04-14-2011, 12:26 AM

cool, I was checking out the skunk2 and kelfords earlier. Any idea which would be best bang for your buck?

fid3L · 04-14-2011, 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by FNguitarguy

cool, I was checking out the skunk2 and kelfords earlier. Any idea which would be best bang for your buck?

Are you looking into the stage 1 drop in cams or stage 2 for either brands?

112480 · 04-15-2011, 08:45 AM

in for more info on these as well....

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04-04-2011, 09:31 PM	#41 (permalink)
Lambo123 Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 73	we tried installing a set of these a few nights ago. turns out they were ground off. i'm pretty disappointed. literally everything (especially regarding the timing) was checked. they did like 5 or 6 valve/hot lash adjustments as well. the shop has done MANY k-series cam installs and this was the first time they ever had problems. even derek at innovative chalked it up to bad cams. i hope this is just a one time problem as i've seen ips, skunk2, etc. cams that were off as well. currently sending them back and will be ordering prayoonto 2's.

04-04-2011, 10:11 PM	#43 (permalink)
tjwashow Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 70	how much are these cams? And how much to get installed?

04-05-2011, 12:45 PM	#45 (permalink)
kseriestuner Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Waltham, MA Posts: 134 Tim	cams were ordered today! should be installed and tuned within the next 2 weeks, ill post before/after dyno! and after that before/after with IM/TB!

04-05-2011, 06:43 PM	#48 (permalink)
kseriestuner Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Waltham, MA Posts: 134 Tim	ya lets hope not...

04-05-2011, 11:05 PM	#49 (permalink)
tjwashow Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 70	would you say that these cams would be a better investment than say a RH and catback? What does this do for reliability/dd?

04-06-2011, 12:10 PM	#52 (permalink)
kseriestuner Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Waltham, MA Posts: 134 Tim	make sure you get your basic bolt-ons before something more major like cams. without the basics you wont see the gains. RH and catback paired with an intake and hondata w/tune will yield good gains, then look into IM/TB (or boost), then cams

04-06-2011, 12:33 PM	#54 (permalink)
kris5597 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Baton Rouge Age: 23 Posts: 1,571 Kris	you wont notice many gains at all with IM/TB on stock cams. Those supporting mods are targeted for cams with more lift and duration with stock. on the dyno some small amount of HP can be gained from those mods but we are talking very minor increase. also depends on the particular intake, header, and exhaust. these things must flow good as well...

04-06-2011, 10:21 PM	#55 (permalink)
Mister Two Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: SC Posts: 204	I've recently seen two Si's show gains from cams while running lightly modded. One w/ Skunk2 Stage 1 and the other Stage 2 cams, both on Flashpro.

04-11-2011, 08:30 PM	#56 (permalink)
kseriestuner Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Waltham, MA Posts: 134 Tim	you will see some gains but without more air entering the motor (ie intake mani/tb), you won't get the full potential. power comes from more efficient motors, you need flow both in and out of the motor. increase fuel and air flow my friends, its a combustion engine afterall

04-12-2011, 10:21 AM	#57 (permalink)
kris5597 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Baton Rouge Age: 23 Posts: 1,571 Kris	think of an engine as a giant air bump. the faster you can move air through it the faster it will go. the least amount of restrictions and turbulence causing bends and kinks the better. cams just allow for more air to fill the combustion chamber. i wouldn't do cams unless i did every bolt on possible to insure i get the max out of the cams.

04-14-2011, 12:26 AM	#58 (permalink)
FNguitarguy Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: houston, TX (westchase-galleria area) Posts: 195 Adam	cool, I was checking out the skunk2 and kelfords earlier. Any idea which would be best bang for your buck?

04-15-2011, 08:45 AM	#60 (permalink)
112480 Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: somewhere between uranus and pluto Posts: 49	in for more info on these as well....

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