IPS k2 MkII camshafts:Knowledge needed

jsb03f · 11-21-2010, 02:18 PM

So these are the cams I have decided to run and after many graphs and say from people runing these cams, I must have.

I am aware that for reliability and because of necessity that new:
Dual Valve springs
Titanium retainers
Keepers
Dual Valve spring seats
Valve stem seals
"Hybrid Racing" chain tensioner

and have read over and over again that I can run either Supertech dual valve springs SPR-H1022D with 80 lbs of seat pressure or Eibach 20411 springs with82lbs of seat presure.

My questions are from who should I aquire the last pieces of the puzzle? Should I finish up with Supertech Keepers. Seats, Retainers or Eibach Retainers, Keepers, and Seats?

Those who are running IPS K2 MkII please chime in

Thanks 8thcivic

Teegs · 11-22-2010, 03:59 AM

Supertech will do just fine. My recommendation is don't think about it too much, both choices will be just fine.

You will love your cams though

spdandpwr · 11-22-2010, 08:29 AM

where are you ordering your supertech valvetrain from? I can't find it online.

btw, to answer your questions..nitrousg35 researched this topic heavily and sent me this note:

Thiis is what Nikos recommended getting:

springs part # SPR-H1021D
Retainers part# RET-K20A2/T3
Valve Lock part # KPR-5.5/7A
Seats Locator part# SEAT-H1020DS

***sivtecboi80*** · 11-22-2010, 09:40 AM

Eibach is a nice spring but they dont make a matching retainer or valvetrain so you need to use eibach with stock retainers which i rather go with a full supertech setup on my ips.

jsb03f · 11-24-2010, 12:35 AM

thanks spdanpwr for the info so in addition to the cams and chain tensioner that is all that i need?

jsb03f · 11-24-2010, 12:35 AM

you can find the springs on ebay

blacksnow · 11-24-2010, 12:58 AM

Where are you acquiring these cams from?

b.r.i.a.n. · 11-24-2010, 09:23 AM

i had the iron cores on my last setup on my old civic. i never got around to tuning them on the dyno but it felt just as fast if not faster as when i had the skunk2 stage 2's in there. i had them for roughly a month before parting out the car.

as far as the spring/retainer combo, i was running the 92 psi supertech dual valvesprings and the titanium retainers. you're somewhat local so if you have any questions or need help with the installation/tune let me know.

spdandpwr · 11-24-2010, 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jsb03f

thanks spdanpwr for the info so in addition to the cams and chain tensioner that is all that i need?

yea, nitrous doesn't even run a tensioner...but, lol, you may as well get it to be on the safe side.

oh, and you'll def need bigger injectors...if you wanna go cheap, get the rdx ones...if you got more loot, get the gopower 525cc (its 5 hundred something). If you plan on modding more in the future get the fic 775s or the id 725s (don't get 1000 or above, too big for non-fi dd).

spdandpwr · 11-24-2010, 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blacksnow

Where are you acquiring these cams from?

slow motion motorsports has the 8620s for $1600 bnib -- 3 week lead time.

there were iron core ones for sale here 2 weeks ago

jsb03f · 11-25-2010, 01:24 AM

I've heard Nitrous talking about a guy named Nikko over at K2oa.org and he could get you a set for $1300!! Cause, c'mon man, $1600 is nuts for just a set of cams

blacksnow · 11-25-2010, 01:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jsb03f

I've heard Nitrous talking about a guy named Nikko over at K2oa.org and he could get you a set for $1300!! Cause, c'mon man, $1600 is nuts for just a set of cams

His name is "Nikos" on k20a

I Vtec, do you? · 11-30-2010, 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jsb03f

I've heard Nitrous talking about a guy named Nikko over at K2oa.org and he could get you a set for $1300!! Cause, c'mon man, $1600 is nuts for just a set of cams

If you want the best, you'll pay the price. And it's $1600 from him as well I believe.

redwing497 · 12-01-2010, 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jsb03f

I've heard Nitrous talking about a guy named Nikko over at K2oa.org and he could get you a set for $1300!! Cause, c'mon man, $1600 is nuts for just a set of cams

Speaking of Nitrous, where has he been? I haven't seem him in weeks now that I think about it. Did I miss something? If anyone can chime in with IPS knowledge it would be him.

spdandpwr · 12-01-2010, 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redwing497

Speaking of Nitrous, where has he been? I haven't seem him in weeks now that I think about it. Did I miss something? If anyone can chime in with IPS knowledge it would be him.

lol, i started a thread about him two weeks ago and apparently he's around...but not on these threads.

svmcams · 12-01-2010, 10:13 AM

The guy who posted is correct. There is no standard matching retainer for the eibach.. Even though it looks like it will fit, it is not a perfect fit and will cause your retainers to break. A custom retainer has to be made for the eibach.

The supertech combo should work fine.

springs part # SPR-H1021D
Retainers part# RET-K20A2/T3
Valve Lock part # KPR-5.5/7A
Seats Locator part# SEAT-H1020DS

try to see if you can find these parts

spdandpwr · 12-01-2010, 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JetLag

The guy who posted is correct. There is no standard matching retainer for the eibach.. Even though it looks like it will fit, it is not a perfect fit and will cause your retainers to break. A custom retainer has to be made for the eibach.

The supertech combo should work fine.

springs part # SPR-H1021D
Retainers part# RET-K20A2/T3
Valve Lock part # KPR-5.5/7A
Seats Locator part# SEAT-H1020DS

try to see if you can find these parts

I tried to look for all of those parts...i can find the springs (second hand) but everyone has the T2 retainers and not the T3s.

svmcams · 12-01-2010, 01:32 PM

Yes, T2 will do for a stock head. I gave you the t3 because I usually get parts for built motors so when using a ported head, sometimes the geometry of the seats and valves change. But for a stock head t2 is the way to go. Good luck

jsb03f · 12-01-2010, 01:36 PM

cool everyone, thanks for all the info I am starting to get the necessary pieces together

Also, is a chain tensioner really necessary from the get go or could I pass on it for a while untill more funds come in?

jsb03f · 12-01-2010, 01:57 PM

also regarding the spring rates springs part # SPR-H1021D are 95 "seat" and 253 "open" while i found the SPR-H1020D for a real good price and are at 100 "seat" and 268 "open" is that a big difference keeping everything else the same? I know that this will cause a little more stress on the cams and valvetrain but is it ok?

11-21-2010, 02:18 PM	#1 (permalink)
jsb03f Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Boca Raton Posts: 1,094 Josh	IPS k2 MkII camshafts:Knowledge needed So these are the cams I have decided to run and after many graphs and say from people runing these cams, I must have. I am aware that for reliability and because of necessity that new: Dual Valve springs Titanium retainers Keepers Dual Valve spring seats Valve stem seals "Hybrid Racing" chain tensioner and have read over and over again that I can run either Supertech dual valve springs SPR-H1022D with 80 lbs of seat pressure or Eibach 20411 springs with82lbs of seat presure. My questions are from who should I aquire the last pieces of the puzzle? Should I finish up with Supertech Keepers. Seats, Retainers or Eibach Retainers, Keepers, and Seats? Those who are running IPS K2 MkII please chime in Thanks 8thcivic
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11-22-2010, 03:59 AM	#2 (permalink)
Teegs Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southern Cali Posts: 3,300 Matt	Supertech will do just fine. My recommendation is don't think about it too much, both choices will be just fine. You will love your cams though

11-22-2010, 08:29 AM	#3 (permalink)
spdandpwr Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Fairfield County, CT Posts: 4,132	where are you ordering your supertech valvetrain from? I can't find it online. btw, to answer your questions..nitrousg35 researched this topic heavily and sent me this note: Thiis is what Nikos recommended getting: springs part # SPR-H1021D Retainers part# RET-K20A2/T3 Valve Lock part # KPR-5.5/7A Seats Locator part# SEAT-H1020DS

11-22-2010, 09:40 AM	#4 (permalink)
*sivtecboi80* VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Long Island NY Age: 32 Posts: 2,806 Nick	Eibach is a nice spring but they dont make a matching retainer or valvetrain so you need to use eibach with stock retainers which i rather go with a full supertech setup on my ips.

11-24-2010, 12:35 AM	#5 (permalink)
jsb03f Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Boca Raton Posts: 1,094 Josh	thanks spdanpwr for the info so in addition to the cams and chain tensioner that is all that i need?

11-24-2010, 12:35 AM	#6 (permalink)
jsb03f Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Boca Raton Posts: 1,094 Josh	you can find the springs on ebay

11-24-2010, 12:58 AM	#7 (permalink)
blacksnow Banned Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Summerville, SC Age: 29 Posts: 2,150 Mark	Where are you acquiring these cams from?

11-24-2010, 09:23 AM	#8 (permalink)
b.r.i.a.n. Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: south florida Posts: 1,135	i had the iron cores on my last setup on my old civic. i never got around to tuning them on the dyno but it felt just as fast if not faster as when i had the skunk2 stage 2's in there. i had them for roughly a month before parting out the car. as far as the spring/retainer combo, i was running the 92 psi supertech dual valvesprings and the titanium retainers. you're somewhat local so if you have any questions or need help with the installation/tune let me know.

11-25-2010, 01:24 AM	#11 (permalink)
jsb03f Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Boca Raton Posts: 1,094 Josh	I've heard Nitrous talking about a guy named Nikko over at K2oa.org and he could get you a set for $1300!! Cause, c'mon man, $1600 is nuts for just a set of cams

12-01-2010, 10:13 AM	#16 (permalink)
svmcams Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 255	The guy who posted is correct. There is no standard matching retainer for the eibach.. Even though it looks like it will fit, it is not a perfect fit and will cause your retainers to break. A custom retainer has to be made for the eibach. The supertech combo should work fine. springs part # SPR-H1021D Retainers part# RET-K20A2/T3 Valve Lock part # KPR-5.5/7A Seats Locator part# SEAT-H1020DS try to see if you can find these parts

12-01-2010, 01:32 PM	#18 (permalink)
svmcams Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 255	Yes, T2 will do for a stock head. I gave you the t3 because I usually get parts for built motors so when using a ported head, sometimes the geometry of the seats and valves change. But for a stock head t2 is the way to go. Good luck

12-01-2010, 01:36 PM	#19 (permalink)
jsb03f Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Boca Raton Posts: 1,094 Josh	cool everyone, thanks for all the info I am starting to get the necessary pieces together Also, is a chain tensioner really necessary from the get go or could I pass on it for a while untill more funds come in?

12-01-2010, 01:57 PM	#20 (permalink)
jsb03f Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Boca Raton Posts: 1,094 Josh	also regarding the spring rates springs part # SPR-H1021D are 95 "seat" and 253 "open" while i found the SPR-H1020D for a real good price and are at 100 "seat" and 268 "open" is that a big difference keeping everything else the same? I know that this will cause a little more stress on the cams and valvetrain but is it ok?

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