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Old 08-09-2010, 04:58 PM   #1 (permalink)
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IPS K2 or Skunk2 stg3 cams?

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I'm in doubt about buying IPS K2 or Skunk2 stg3.
I have a good price on Skunk2 stg3, and IPS K2 seems to be very expencive. I did some research and both deliver about 250whp. What can you tell me about these cams, their main diferences...

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Old 08-09-2010, 05:33 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Off the shelf and for the future the Skunk2 Tuner 3's will yield more power. Driveability with most power gains on a I/H/E setup, the K2's.
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Off the shelf and for the future the Skunk2 Tuner 3's will yield more power. Driveability with most power gains on a I/H/E setup, the K2's.
Would the stage 3's be too much for the stock bottom end or I should say not be effective as the skunk stage 2's? I know once I build the bottom end they'll be great but im trying to not have to replace the camshafts twice.
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If the shortblock is staying stock, I would either run IPS K2 MKII or Skunk2 Stage2 cams. If you are going to build the motor, I would go IPS K2 MKIII cams over the Skunk2 Stage3, but I am partial to IPS. Rick-allmotorfa5 knows his stuff, so take heed to what he says.
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Old 08-10-2010, 10:12 AM   #5 (permalink)
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If the shortblock is staying stock, I would either run IPS K2 MKII or Skunk2 Stage2 cams. If you are going to build the motor, I would go IPS K2 MKIII cams over the Skunk2 Stage3, but I am partial to IPS. Rick-allmotorfa5 knows his stuff, so take heed to what he says.
But did you drive both setup? IPS K2 MKII against Skunk2 stg2.
The differences are the results or there are something more you can tell.

Basic I need a very safe setup to drive daily. I was thinking about reaching 250whp All Motor. I would appreciate any suggestion.

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Well, I have IPS K2 MKII cams. I know people with Skunk2 Stage2 cams with similar mods to mine. Our numbers are pretty close. Both are very safe for a dd. As for getting to 250hp, that will be pretty hard to do on a K20 with stock internals. Even with a custom Go Power header and Full Race exhaust along with ID1000 injectors and custom cowl induction intake, I am finding it hard to make more than 230 on a Mustang dyno. You might hit 250 on a Dynapack with a high level header, 3" cat-back, ported RBC, larger TB and good intake.

BTW, the Skunk2 Stage2 will probably make more peak hp than the IPS. The IPS on the other hand, will have an advantage on low cam. Skunk2 can be had for a much cheaper price. Be prepared for a price shock with IPS. I got mine for $1300.
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Old 08-10-2010, 11:14 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Yeah... I belive I'll go with Skunk2 stg2, my mechanic told me that it's possible to reach 240whp on Dynojet, My car has 203.2whp on the same with SRI, Custom Header 2,5', Vibrant Exhaust 2,5'', and P2R Spacer with gasket and Manifold gasket.

I just want to see check about IPS, but it's to expensive for me.
Thanks for the info.

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^ Man, I don't know about that. Going from 203 to 240 with just the cams? Anyway, best wishes to you. Keep us posted.
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203-240 aint happening with just camshafts.
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here's mine with the IPS K2 MKII....


a stock Si makes 195-200 WHP on this dyno.

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Old 08-10-2010, 05:17 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Skunk2 is a excellent cam you no have any issues i have 2 costumers with those cams make 230-240 with other mods

IPS is great, but for take all the advantage you need to change comp

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I'd recommend the IPS cam. Better all around cam, especially for a daily driver. These are the cams I ordered =]
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Old 08-24-2010, 06:13 AM   #13 (permalink)
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stage 3 skunk2 will be overkill on stock compression. you'd want to compare skunk2 stage 2 cams with IPS k2 mark 2 ones. when tuned they drive like stock, but make way better top end than stock cams do.
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Skunk2 is a excellent cam you no have any issues i have 2 costumers with those cams make 230-240 with other mods

IPS is great, but for take all the advantage you need to change comp

Good luck sir if you need those cam i can give you a good price in them lmk!
Not true. The K2 MkII are designed for 11:0 compression. The K2 MkIII cams are for 12:5 or higher. I personally love IPS for the way they perform in the low to mid range as well as making spectacular top end power.
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^^ doesn't mean that the cam won't gain power with increasing the compression.

Are you saying type-r 11.5:1 pistons wouldn't gain any power over 11:1 pistons because the cam is designed for 11:1? I doubt it would gain much, but it would gain.

It would probably even make more power at 12:1 too. But at that point, obviously going with the more aggressive cam you would make even more power.
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I'd rock the IPS K2's or Skunk2 Tuner 2's on a stock block setup. Even Tuned 2's or IPS K2 MK3 on a 12.5:1 setup.

Not a big fan of taking a motor apart to install factory pistons again, even if they are type R.
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I'd rock the IPS K2's or Skunk2 Tuner 2's on a stock block setup. Even Tuned 2's or IPS K2 MK3 on a 12.5:1 setup.

Not a big fan of taking a motor apart to install factory pistons again, even if they are type R.
might as well go k24 if you gonna do that much work.
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^^ doesn't mean that the cam won't gain power with increasing the compression.

Are you saying type-r 11.5:1 pistons wouldn't gain any power over 11:1 pistons because the cam is designed for 11:1? I doubt it would gain much, but it would gain.

It would probably even make more power at 12:1 too. But at that point, obviously going with the more aggressive cam you would make even more power.
Are you saying that the MKII cams would work better with higher compression than the MKIII's? My point is that the MKII's work well with the stock compression. I never said that they wouldn't work well with higher compression, but if one has higher compression, why not take advantage of that with cams designed for that? BTW, I never said that the MKII's would not work well with 11:5 compression.
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Obviously I'm not nearly as informed as you guys when it comes to cams, but maybe you can clear something up for me: In the past I've heard of the Skunk 2 cams causing premature wear from being too aggressive. What's the complete backstory with that? Was it just a certain stage cam, install error, not adding an aftermarket valvetrain, or something else? Sorry for my newbness.
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Obviously I'm not nearly as informed as you guys when it comes to cams, but maybe you can clear something up for me: In the past I've heard of the Skunk 2 cams causing premature wear from being too aggressive. What's the complete backstory with that? Was it just a certain stage cam, install error, not adding an aftermarket valvetrain, or something else? Sorry for my newbness.
Skunk2 stage 2 cams "version 3" are problem-free. I've had them for 32,000 miles now and they are doing just fine. If their are any problems its most likely an install error, and in rare cases, they were just manufactured with error.
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