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Old 05-14-2008, 01:39 AM   #1 (permalink)
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help with lights!!!!

ok so here goes, i am a newb sorta and am very interested in getting new head lights, i want to get the halos with the leds and projectors, now as far as bulbs and sizes go i got no clue, i hear H1 is the size is wat i should have not sure, i want to get the 8000k lights cuz i like that bluish white color, i got all these potential kits and headlights i can buy but i dont want to buy something i dont need, just dont want the wrong size or buy the wrong item from sellers on here, i wanna make sure i get the right fitting and right kit and hope that i can get this done correct, ur help is greatly appreciated, and if any one in so cal can help install let me know, ill reinburse u for ur time, thanks guys!


btw what is retrofit??


ps here is what i want to put on








is this the right hid kit for them?

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Old 05-14-2008, 01:46 AM   #2 (permalink)
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a retrofit is when you use projectors built for HIDs (i.e BMW, Mercedes, Lexus etc.) and put them into stock headlights like the Civic. Those projectors are not built for HIDs so there will not be a smooth cut off and there will be some glare. I'm not sure if those headlights use different bulbs, but the Civic uses 9006 bulbs, which is the HID kit you should get. I can't really tell from the picture what kind of kit that is

edit, i see you got that pic from the for sale thread, so it should fit the stock headlights if the seller says, but not sure about those projector headlights

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Old 05-14-2008, 01:51 AM   #3 (permalink)
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hmm interesting. want to more know on this! bump!
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Old 05-14-2008, 02:15 AM   #4 (permalink)
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i also started reading up on this cause im about to make a purchase for hids also.

i think the sizes are like this:

low beams: 9006
high beams: 9005
fogs: h11

subscribed. let me know which one you buy if u do buy one.
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Old 05-14-2008, 02:18 AM   #5 (permalink)
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this is a very good thread i have he same delama
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Old 05-14-2008, 02:30 AM   #6 (permalink)
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ebay lights?
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Old 05-14-2008, 03:21 AM   #7 (permalink)
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yea its a different size. stock is 9006. for those headlights you bought, im pretty sure its h1..but u prolly wanna confirm with the seller. also, 8000k is like really blue...more blue than white...theres another thread about HIDs and the different color temperatures. i remember them saying anything over 5000k gives you less visibility the higher you go. but ive seen other ppl with that hid kit so it must be pretty decent
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anything higher than 4300k, which by the way is OEM temp on cars equipped with HIDS, is used for show. 6000k is pretty blue with some white. 8000k is basically blue with slight hint of purple, everything else is just ridiculous IMO. 4300k gives the best useable light output.
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Old 05-14-2008, 05:18 AM   #9 (permalink)
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anything higher than 4300k, which by the way is OEM temp on cars equipped with HIDS, is used for show. 6000k is pretty blue with some white. 8000k is basically blue with slight hint of purple, everything else is just ridiculous IMO. 4300k gives the best useable light output.
you're statement is about half-right.

6k is white with a hint of blue.

8k is roughly a mixture of both.

10k blue/purple.

12k purple.

my 8k hid kit:


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this is what the size and everything is for that hid kit from a seller on here

"I have a brand new set of ONEX HID kit. 8000K

This is a plug and play unit. Easy to install. About 10 mins each side"
160 picked up
170 shipped
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Old 05-14-2008, 01:42 PM   #11 (permalink)
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i dont want it to be too blue, i want a hint of blue so ur saying that 4300k is fine?
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This is one of the sets of 4300k I had with RX300 projectors

If thats blue enough for you, then you should go with the 4300k. Otherwise 5000k if they have it or 6000k should be more of a blue color. I do not really endorse use of plug and play kits and prefer retros, but thats just my preference. The projector in this case might actually make the picture more blue than it seems.

from an E55 projector


Might also have something to do with camera settings as well...but I'm not entirely sure. You should check out the Lighting forum and see which HID kit is best served for you. Lots of people have posted pics of their kits and you can compare. Not all kits are made the same and therefore 6000k might not be as blue as some other kits

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so people just take off their projectors with h1 bulbs and put on hids as a retrofit with stock headlights?
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H1 may be the bulbs used in those projector headlights. Popular retrofit projectors these days are the TSX projectors, S2000 projectors, and hybrid TFX(Infiniti FX projector with a clear lens swap from TSX or others). They use those and put them in stock headlights. Any other projector built for HID will do also, like the BMWs, Lexus, Mercedes, and Audi. These projectors use D2S bulbs. Again, I recommend you looking in the lighting section for further information. There is loads of information and even a tutorial for the retrofit. Here is a complete guide on the process
http://www.8thcivic.com/DIY/Xenon.pdf
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word thanks alot!
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No probs! Of course there are many ways of doing it, and that is just one way.
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if you want to see some nice retros done and some pics of how the retros look check out customlightz page. they have a TON of FG pictures that will give you a better idea of how they look in the BACK as well as the front. In most of their photos, you can see that the lights use D2S bulbs (as someone previously stated). I have 6000k bulbs from Customlightz with the CMSII done. Customlightz has come a long away and have definitely discovered what most other retrofitters have not (ie. CSMI and CSMII).

Customlightz is a sponsor on this site and they provide awesome customer service. Prices may seem high for the cost of a retro but it's well worth it since the final product is pure quality. Members on from this site that have purchased their products will tell you they have high quality craftsmanship in their retros.
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