Help With R18 Pulley Kit

R18Civic · 05-13-2008, 12:25 PM

Ok guys i'm trying to install my pulley kit and i've been following el bens' DIY....but after removing the three bolts i can't remove the belt or even the alternator. its getting on my nerves and i really just want to hurry and get it done. THANKS!!!

06civictx · 05-13-2008, 12:56 PM

are you using the right torque? try some wd40 to help a little,or if its harder to take off,take it to a professional

H3DTRNR · 05-13-2008, 12:59 PM

yeah WD40 or are you using the impact wrench cuz that should make everything easier.

mike_si_29 · 05-13-2008, 01:00 PM

Did you release the belt tensioner? After i moved belt tensioner, belt slides off right away.

R18Civic · 05-13-2008, 01:04 PM

well i was following el ben's DIY and it said to remove a bolt from under the alternator and once i remove that I can take off the belt, but now I can't even put the damn bolt back in.

mike_si_29 · 05-13-2008, 01:19 PM

Just try to remove the belt first.
As he siad " first you have to locate the tensioner, its the big silver part you can see in front of the pulley. Just get a wrench, put it on silver tensioner, and push the wrench down ( i think its a right direction). It will make it much easier to remove the belt. hope it helps

R18Civic · 05-13-2008, 01:23 PM

lol i've been trying to do that for the past hour =[ this sucks

and those three bolts, i can only can one of them back in.... which is the long front bolt for the alt. the other long bolt won't even go all the way in. The bolt for the tensioner can't even screw in either. its so ridiculous...blah i'll be back in a few.

R18Civic · 05-13-2008, 02:02 PM

ok so i've found out why the bolts wont' go in...its because not my alternator isn't aligned ne more...and i can't get it to realign now....ahh someone help me plz!!

mike_si_29 · 05-13-2008, 02:43 PM

Move the auto-tensioner (A) using the belt tension release tool to relieve tension from the belt, then remove the drive belt

Hope it helps.

R18Civic · 05-13-2008, 03:52 PM

uhh just wondering where can i get the belt tension release tool?? but i'm gonna have to try this again later on and what do size attachment do i use on the pulleys to get them off b.c i have non that can fit it

mike_si_29 · 05-13-2008, 04:10 PM

For the belt tension release tool, i just used a regular wrench. Hopefully one of the R18 guys can let you know exact size of the attachment they used.

R18Civic · 05-13-2008, 04:34 PM

o0o0 ok see i don't have a regular wrench that i can use...well i can't find it right now, but thanks!!

mO 64 StAnG 06 · 05-13-2008, 04:41 PM

Wow, you're going through everything I did using the exact same DIY.

Go to Sear's and purchase a Serpentine Belt Tool made by Gearwrench. Don't bother renting one from Autozone, I broke two of those. The one I got from Sears was the best I've used with the best angle to get to ours.

Now when you try to release the tension remember two things. One.) Push towards the car. Two.) Push slowly! I mean barely put pressure on it. BARELY. It might feel like you aren't getting anywhere but eventually it will slowly release. I tried shoving and slamming it and got no where and might have damaged the auto-tensioner. So be nice and slow with it.

I also had alignment issues with the alternator trying to do it that way also. I believe I bent a piece or bracket doing it and had to bend it back. Wasn't a big deal but caused a long delay.

R18Civic · 05-13-2008, 08:09 PM

hah yah i was about to PM you b/c i was reading the other threads trying to figure this out.

DO you think you could give me a list of what you used, like what to use to take off the alt. pulley b/c i have no attachments that'll fit for that and what else did you use for the water pump and crank (i already saw what happened with yours but i'm going to try my impact tool first)

Lol and one more thing!! Did you remove the alternator at all to install the pulleys? b/c i figured if i remove the alt. pulley then i could remove the stock WPpulley and then put the NST one in and then the alt.

mO 64 StAnG 06 · 05-13-2008, 08:31 PM

I can't remember exactly what I used since it's been a while, but what I remember is:

-10( or maybe 8) mm open end wrench - Used to take off the bolts on the water pump.
-10( or maybe 8) mm socket and ratchet - Used to take off alternator (I think).
-Serpentine Belt Tool
-Electric impact wrench from Wal-Mart w/ sockets included - Used to take off pulley on alternator

And that's about all I can remember.

The crank I ended up having the shop do, but I attempted to do it myself but I can't remember what socket fit on the bolt. Wasn't big at all.

But yeah, you will have to remove the alternator to put on the pulley for it. I mean I guess you could try doing it without taking off the alternator but that would make it extremely difficult. And yes, you would have A LOT easier access to the WP pulley with it removed.

Good luck dude, taking the pulley's off on the WP and Alt. is the easy part.

miketat594 · 05-13-2008, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by R18Civic

hah yah i was about to PM you b/c i was reading the other threads trying to figure this out.

DO you think you could give me a list of what you used, like what to use to take off the alt. pulley b/c i have no attachments that'll fit for that and what else did you use for the water pump and crank (i already saw what happened with yours but i'm going to try my impact tool first)

Lol and one more thing!! Did you remove the alternator at all to install the pulleys? b/c i figured if i remove the alt. pulley then i could remove the stock WPpulley and then put the NST one in and then the alt.

Not positive cause I have the k20, but I had to put my belt back on to losen the crank bolt and I had to heat it and hit it with a 4 ft breaker bar to get it to crack free. I had to replace my crank seal in the process. If you use the old belt for grip you can put the ALT in a vise( pully in belt, in vise) hit it with air come's right off. Crank was a bitch!!!!! As for tools go to an autozone if you have one and get the rental serp belt tool, then just return it, like under $30 beans. For my crank bolt I had to have someone hold the brake in with the car in gear, heat the hell out of it and use a breaker bar air wouldn't budge it. GOOD LUCK.

R18Civic · 05-13-2008, 08:41 PM

Lol thanks! and the bolts on the alt are 12mm, but thanks now i will be making a trip to sears and walmart very soon!!

Oh yah when you removed the alternator, after you removed the belt and those three bolts, will it just pop out easily? or am i going to have trouble?

Sorry for all the questions i'm really trying to do this the easiest way possible epsecially after today....spent like 10min taking the bolts off and trying to loosen the tensioner and after i realized i couldn't do it it took me about 2 hours just trying to get the alt. realigned so i could put the bolts back in.

miketat594 · 05-13-2008, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by R18Civic

Lol thanks! and the bolts on the alt are 12mm, but thanks now i will be making a trip to sears and walmart very soon!!

Oh yah when you removed the alternator, after you removed the belt and those three bolts, will it just pop out easily? or am i going to have trouble?

Sorry for all the questions i'm really trying to do this the easiest way possible epsecially after today....spent like 10min taking the bolts off and trying to loosen the tensioner and after i realized i couldn't do it it took me about 2 hours just trying to get the alt. realigned so i could put the bolts back in.

2 PLUGS ONE IN BACK FOR GROUND IS TUFF BUT YOU CAN GET TO IT, IF I MEM CORRECTLY SHOULD BE A 10, DON'T TAKE THE CAP'S AS SHOUTING JUST FORGOT THE BUTTON AND DIDN'T WANNA TYPE AGAIN.LOL

willihix · 05-13-2008, 09:05 PM

don't waste money on a tool. I believe a 3/4" wrench will fit on the tensioner. You really have to pull hard on that thing though. Its hydraulic so you just have to keep putting pressure on, then it will get to a point where you can pull that belt off. That diy is horrible. Really bad english and half of it does not even make sense.

R18Civic · 05-13-2008, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by miketat594

2 PLUGS ONE IN BACK FOR GROUND IS TUFF BUT YOU CAN GET TO IT, IF I MEM CORRECTLY SHOULD BE A 10, DON'T TAKE THE CAP'S AS SHOUTING JUST FORGOT THE BUTTON AND DIDN'T WANNA TYPE AGAIN.LOL

Lol alright. Do u think u can show me a picture of which one your talking about? b/c i know there are two on the side, but in the back? i don't remember seeing any.

Quote:

Originally Posted by willihix

don't waste money on a tool. I believe a 3/4" wrench will fit on the tensioner. You really have to pull hard on that thing though. Its hydraulic so you just have to keep putting pressure on, then it will get to a point where you can pull that belt off. That diy is horrible. Really bad english and half of it does not even make sense.

Thanks I was going to try that first, but i still need some sockets/ attachments for my impact tool to get the crank and alt. pulley off...happen to know what size?

05-13-2008, 12:25 PM	#1 (permalink)
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05-13-2008, 12:56 PM	#2 (permalink)
06civictx Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Your Mom's Room Age: 21 Posts: 4,255 Bobby iTrader: 2 / 100%	are you using the right torque? try some wd40 to help a little,or if its harder to take off,take it to a professional

05-13-2008, 12:59 PM	#3 (permalink)
H3DTRNR Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Porterville, CA Posts: 128 iTrader: 0 / 0%	yeah WD40 or are you using the impact wrench cuz that should make everything easier.

05-13-2008, 01:00 PM	#4 (permalink)
mike_si_29 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Thousand Oaks, CA Posts: 322 Mike iTrader: 4 / 100%	Did you release the belt tensioner? After i moved belt tensioner, belt slides off right away.

05-13-2008, 01:04 PM	#5 (permalink)
R18Civic Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: NC Posts: 394 Nate iTrader: 1 / 100%	well i was following el ben's DIY and it said to remove a bolt from under the alternator and once i remove that I can take off the belt, but now I can't even put the damn bolt back in.

05-13-2008, 01:19 PM	#6 (permalink)
mike_si_29 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Thousand Oaks, CA Posts: 322 Mike iTrader: 4 / 100%	Just try to remove the belt first. As he siad " first you have to locate the tensioner, its the big silver part you can see in front of the pulley. Just get a wrench, put it on silver tensioner, and push the wrench down ( i think its a right direction). It will make it much easier to remove the belt. hope it helps

05-13-2008, 01:23 PM	#7 (permalink)
R18Civic Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: NC Posts: 394 Nate iTrader: 1 / 100%	lol i've been trying to do that for the past hour =[ this sucks and those three bolts, i can only can one of them back in.... which is the long front bolt for the alt. the other long bolt won't even go all the way in. The bolt for the tensioner can't even screw in either. its so ridiculous...blah i'll be back in a few.

05-13-2008, 02:02 PM	#8 (permalink)
R18Civic Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: NC Posts: 394 Nate iTrader: 1 / 100%	ok so i've found out why the bolts wont' go in...its because not my alternator isn't aligned ne more...and i can't get it to realign now....ahh someone help me plz!!

05-13-2008, 02:43 PM	#9 (permalink)
mike_si_29 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Thousand Oaks, CA Posts: 322 Mike iTrader: 4 / 100%	Move the auto-tensioner (A) using the belt tension release tool to relieve tension from the belt, then remove the drive belt Hope it helps.

05-13-2008, 03:52 PM	#10 (permalink)
R18Civic Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: NC Posts: 394 Nate iTrader: 1 / 100%	uhh just wondering where can i get the belt tension release tool?? but i'm gonna have to try this again later on and what do size attachment do i use on the pulleys to get them off b.c i have non that can fit it

05-13-2008, 04:10 PM	#11 (permalink)
mike_si_29 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Thousand Oaks, CA Posts: 322 Mike iTrader: 4 / 100%	For the belt tension release tool, i just used a regular wrench. Hopefully one of the R18 guys can let you know exact size of the attachment they used.

05-13-2008, 04:34 PM	#12 (permalink)
R18Civic Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: NC Posts: 394 Nate iTrader: 1 / 100%	o0o0 ok see i don't have a regular wrench that i can use...well i can't find it right now, but thanks!!

05-13-2008, 04:41 PM	#13 (permalink)
mO 64 StAnG 06 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Wylie, Texas Age: 19 Posts: 2,177 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Wow, you're going through everything I did using the exact same DIY. Go to Sear's and purchase a Serpentine Belt Tool made by Gearwrench. Don't bother renting one from Autozone, I broke two of those. The one I got from Sears was the best I've used with the best angle to get to ours. Now when you try to release the tension remember two things. One.) Push towards the car. Two.) Push slowly! I mean barely put pressure on it. BARELY. It might feel like you aren't getting anywhere but eventually it will slowly release. I tried shoving and slamming it and got no where and might have damaged the auto-tensioner. So be nice and slow with it. I also had alignment issues with the alternator trying to do it that way also. I believe I bent a piece or bracket doing it and had to bend it back. Wasn't a big deal but caused a long delay.

05-13-2008, 08:09 PM	#14 (permalink)
R18Civic Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: NC Posts: 394 Nate iTrader: 1 / 100%	hah yah i was about to PM you b/c i was reading the other threads trying to figure this out. DO you think you could give me a list of what you used, like what to use to take off the alt. pulley b/c i have no attachments that'll fit for that and what else did you use for the water pump and crank (i already saw what happened with yours but i'm going to try my impact tool first) Lol and one more thing!! Did you remove the alternator at all to install the pulleys? b/c i figured if i remove the alt. pulley then i could remove the stock WPpulley and then put the NST one in and then the alt.

05-13-2008, 08:31 PM	#15 (permalink)
mO 64 StAnG 06 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Wylie, Texas Age: 19 Posts: 2,177 iTrader: 0 / 0%	I can't remember exactly what I used since it's been a while, but what I remember is: -10( or maybe 8) mm open end wrench - Used to take off the bolts on the water pump. -10( or maybe 8) mm socket and ratchet - Used to take off alternator (I think). -Serpentine Belt Tool -Electric impact wrench from Wal-Mart w/ sockets included - Used to take off pulley on alternator And that's about all I can remember. The crank I ended up having the shop do, but I attempted to do it myself but I can't remember what socket fit on the bolt. Wasn't big at all. But yeah, you will have to remove the alternator to put on the pulley for it. I mean I guess you could try doing it without taking off the alternator but that would make it extremely difficult. And yes, you would have A LOT easier access to the WP pulley with it removed. Good luck dude, taking the pulley's off on the WP and Alt. is the easy part.

05-13-2008, 08:41 PM	#17 (permalink)
R18Civic Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: NC Posts: 394 Nate iTrader: 1 / 100%	Lol thanks! and the bolts on the alt are 12mm, but thanks now i will be making a trip to sears and walmart very soon!! Oh yah when you removed the alternator, after you removed the belt and those three bolts, will it just pop out easily? or am i going to have trouble? Sorry for all the questions i'm really trying to do this the easiest way possible epsecially after today....spent like 10min taking the bolts off and trying to loosen the tensioner and after i realized i couldn't do it it took me about 2 hours just trying to get the alt. realigned so i could put the bolts back in.

05-13-2008, 09:05 PM	#19 (permalink)
willihix Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 75 iTrader: 0 / 0%	don't waste money on a tool. I believe a 3/4" wrench will fit on the tensioner. You really have to pull hard on that thing though. Its hydraulic so you just have to keep putting pressure on, then it will get to a point where you can pull that belt off. That diy is horrible. Really bad english and half of it does not even make sense.