Throttle Response Question

[VXTXEXC]

is there any easy way or simple way to get better throttle repsonse like to when u rev..it revs up faster ...like someone told me to tighten the throttle cable but i dunno if that would be a smart move or what... anyone have any ideas or know something i can get?... any help would be appreciated... thanks!

[c130turboprop]

first off, we dont even have a throttle cable, we have drive by wire (dbw) which means its all electrical. the only way to get better response is to get an intake really, other than that, your pretty much stuck with what u have... i did see, on a euro website, for their Si's over there, they have a dbw booster that supposably made the response faster, but i have yet to see it here in the U.S

[nbp06Si]

Originally Posted by VXTXEXC

is there any easy way or simple way to get better throttle repsonse like to when u rev..it revs up faster ...like someone told me to tighten the throttle cable but i dunno if that would be a smart move or what... anyone have any ideas or know something i can get?... any help would be appreciated... thanks!

we dont have a throttle cable, our cars are drive ny wire, a header would improve throttle respose and also a short ram intake

[thisisdudewhoru]

A lighter flywheel might make it rev up faster.

[c130turboprop]

Originally Posted by thisisdudewhoru

A lighter flywheel might make it rev up faster.

and the lightweight pully set

[Zeuceone]

get the proper intake.

[c130turboprop]

basically anything that is lightweight for the engine to spin and anything that will flow air better will give u some better throttle response

[VXTXEXC]

i have a lightweight flywheel in it already... so i guesss ill order headers now lol

[VXTXEXC]

what intake would u recomend? fujita aem? anything? lol

[qwerty :)]

NST pulleys.

[VXTXEXC]

oh good idea not a bad price either
NST22015K 15% UD Crank,
15% OD Alternator,
Belt Idler Pulley KIT
06-08 Civic Si
K20 $239.00

[qwerty :)]

yeah, its been one of my favorite mods to date... it makes the car feel a lot more snappy and peppy and it was one of the cheapest mods

[thisisdudewhoru]

How hard was it(nst pullys) to install? Could it be done with regular hand tools or do I need a impact wrench or w/e?

[qwerty :)]

the hardest part is taking off the crank bolt. but once i got the balls to try it. i got a socket and secured it on a part of the inner fender and barely cranked the key, not enough for it to fully turn on, and it popped the bolt right off. it took maybe like 2-3 hours

[mO 64 StAnG 06]

Originally Posted by thisisdudewhoru

How hard was it(nst pullys) to install? Could it be done with regular hand tools or do I need a impact wrench or w/e?

I've got details on how I installed mine somewhere in previous threads.

Do this. It will make everything soooo much easier.

Go to some shop, perferably a small local one that works with honda's (As they are known to tighten the crank pulley bolt really tight), and have them knock loose the crank pulley bolt for you. This will make everything so much easier.

Oh, and Im not sure if you've done this before but it was my first time to do it and caused me a lot of trouble, but to remove the belt get a serpentine belt tool and slowly push towards the car to release pressure on the auto-tensioner.

[myerz]

Is there no CPU adjustment to compensate for the Drive-by-wire latency?

This hesitation in throttle is and can be at times very dangerous.

This should be a safety recall.

[miketat594]

Originally Posted by myerz

Is there no CPU adjustment to compensate for the Drive-by-wire latency?

This hesitation in throttle is and can be at times very dangerous.

This should be a safety recall.

K I'm surely not a fan of the throttle by wire but it is the way of the future, so we all have to get used to it. F1 cars now run a TBW set up so they do work. The disadvantages of cable are far over the TBW, for as with any electronic throttle there is no short death, it die's it's done replace it and everything's the same as b4. Cables stretch,Then people that don't know how to set them play with them and cause other problems, such as high revving keeping TB's open dumping too much gas into the manifold causing way to much heat, Heat warps things in excess.

If you opt to get real technical, Go find a older version of your motor and retro fit a cable system in, with money anything is possible, A time attack car may get better use out of a cable set up, a daily driver will be far better on TBW system in the long run feel never changes, unlike the cables of the past.

As far as response go's it's not the fault of the TBW system it's part to do with the motor's they are put on, Honda started making small high revving engine's not giant power plant's. These car's want to be revved hard therfore the bottom end is not the best power, the best power come's up top. high in the powerband. Think of it like a dirtbike rev it up and drop the clutch, no rev you stall. Now back to Honda motor's they are oversized dirtbike high rev motors, so give it a bit a gas first then it'll pull harder out the box.

The fun part of these car's is that they rev alot longer than other car's making them pull farthar and harder on the top. You may not fire off the line like an AWD Evo or Sti, but you rev higher down the track where most car's bump out, so as for response just use what you have in a diff manner and you will enjoy it more.

For the record I drive an Si, so I'm not knockin the Honda motor. I'm just sayin they have been like this forever, I started on a 93 hatch with a b16 swap then went to a Teggy Type R to a RSX type S to the Si ,each and everyone wanted to be revved.

[VXTXEXC]

ya i had a teg then i got a rsx then i got the si... i still like my si the best out of all my cars ive had

[DBFIU]

Originally Posted by miketat594

K I'm surely not a fan of the throttle by wire but it is the way of the future, so we all have to get used to it. F1 cars now run a TBW set up so they do work. The disadvantages of cable are far over the TBW, for as with any electronic throttle there is no short death, it die's it's done replace it and everything's the same as b4. Cables stretch,Then people that don't know how to set them play with them and cause other problems, such as high revving keeping TB's open dumping too much gas into the manifold causing way to much heat, Heat warps things in excess.

If you opt to get real technical, Go find a older version of your motor and retro fit a cable system in, with money anything is possible, A time attack car may get better use out of a cable set up, a daily driver will be far better on TBW system in the long run feel never changes, unlike the cables of the past.

As far as response go's it's not the fault of the TBW system it's part to do with the motor's they are put on, Honda started making small high revving engine's not giant power plant's. These car's want to be revved hard therfore the bottom end is not the best power, the best power come's up top. high in the powerband. Think of it like a dirtbike rev it up and drop the clutch, no rev you stall. Now back to Honda motor's they are oversized dirtbike high rev motors, so give it a bit a gas first then it'll pull harder out the box.

The fun part of these car's is that they rev alot longer than other car's making them pull farthar and harder on the top. You may not fire off the line like an AWD Evo or Sti, but you rev higher down the track where most car's bump out, so as for response just use what you have in a diff manner and you will enjoy it more.

For the record I drive an Si, so I'm not knockin the Honda motor. I'm just sayin they have been like this forever, I started on a 93 hatch with a b16 swap then went to a Teggy Type R to a RSX type S to the Si ,each and everyone wanted to be revved.

I think the guy was referring to the delay in revs, we all agree that the honda likes to be revved but the delay is what bothers him.

[miketat594]

I don't feel a delay in the rev, I have a SRI, Catback, Hondata reflash,Helix TBS, CFR UD pullys. If your referring to the delay that you get on an Si, That is caused by the VSA, Turn it off and you loose the delay, for instance if you go to a track and wanna spin the tire's, if the VSA is on it bumps the brakes on stopping the effect, turn it off spin all you want. It's an electronic LSD not a Mechanical, All this electric crap get's linked together for safty due to the fact, that not everyone who buy's today's car's can drive them correctly, if you drive with the VSA off it's a different car, You have more feel with it off. It does however serve a positive purpose when you come into a turn to hot or oversteer a little it correct's with braking, And some people still need this.
If he feels somthing more than he may have bigger problems, if it is only a matter of keeping the motor in the Vtec then it's driver error, meening that without holding it up there between shift's the cam return's and you loose the power band, as for that Reflash the car and the Vtec hit's faster or just power shift the car and keep it high in the RPM's. You can alway's go and find a friend that has that CX civic of yesteryear and then you really get to feel unsafe you know 0 - 60 in half hour