T1R Air Conduct Box

[NitrousG35]

^ Actually, you can just buy a silicone coupler if indeed you sectioned out a MAF housing. The main obstacle is the inlet tube, which would need to be cut away to adapt a sectioned MAF housing and silicone coupler. I am not terribly fond of the idea of sectioning out that piece with a Dremel since the cover is made out of carbon fiber. No matter how careful you are, there would probably be some collateral damage around the inlet itself.

[Xenin]

why is the Type R stuff always a hassle for us?

[NitrousG35]

^ It's a conspiracy by American Honda to keep us from enjoying the performance that Asia and Europe get in their Civics...

What is sad is that it has always seemed like the Europeans and Japanese have withheld the good stuff from us and instead, give us watered down products short on performance.

[marc-o-lishuz]

Originally Posted by NitrousG35

You don't need to camp outside the shop. You can buy the very same system direct from Japan and get it within a week. It's called M&M.

I camp so I can get AJR to install it too

[KidnKorner]

Originally Posted by whitecivicsi

Yes it can. I don't know if you're trying to be a smartass or what but dude really go look for yourself. and it has nothing to do with ur fender area.

Road splash isn't doing anything. You would have to drive thru 12"+ of free standing water for it do do anything, even with a Cold Air Intake you have to submerge the air filter.

Originally Posted by SiliconX

No. The stock system pipes down to the resonator box, which pipes up to the top of the engine bay on the driver's side of the vehicle:

The joints of every connection arent water proof, it's very possible to hydrolock the engine with the stock air induction system.

So long as you guys have comprehensive coverage on your insurance policy I don't see what the issue is. You insurance will cover it.

Originally Posted by Xenin

why is the Type R stuff always a hassle for us?

Honda's revenge for Nagasaki and Hiroshima

[aki]

Originally Posted by F-1 Si

Just as a side bar there is a certain somebody who has completed a full cowl induction from start to finish with a kitchen table and front porch as his work shop This was all done in less time then it's taken these guys to make this system road worthy with most of the parts and R&D already in place..Hummm.

Hummm, maybe it's because after prototyping is complete that they need to find a shop to manufacture it, approve the production version for QA, produce the manufacture version, coincide release with a marketing push (community campaigns, print ads, online ads). DIY has none of those considerations.

[Soichiro Jr.]

Originally Posted by aki

Hummm, maybe it's because after prototyping is complete that they need to find a shop to manufacture it, approve the production version for QA, produce the manufacture version, coincide release with a marketing push (community campaigns, print ads, online ads). DIY has none of those considerations.

While that is possible, I don't think thats the case here... If this thing doesn't have the vanes inside, I'm afraid their "R&D" will be all for not. They're probably having the same problems as PWJDM...

[NitrousG35]

Originally Posted by F-1 Si

Just as a side bar there is a certain somebody who has completed a full cowl induction from start to finish with a kitchen table and front porch as his work shop This was all done in less time then it's taken these guys to make this system road worthy with most of the parts and R&D already in place..Hummm.

Well Peter, maybe their kitchen table is smaller than mine...

[tcel127]

Originally Posted by NitrousG35

^ It's a conspiracy by American Honda to keep us from enjoying the performance that Asia and Europe get in their Civics...

What is sad is that it has always seemed like the Europeans and Japanese have withheld the good stuff from us and instead, give us watered down products short on performance.

unfortunately its our countries strict policy's regarding safety and emissions that don't allow us the good stuff

[kwh165]

Global warming :P

[aki]

Originally Posted by Soichiro Jr.

While that is possible, I don't think thats the case here... If this thing doesn't have the vanes inside, I'm afraid their "R&D" will be all for not. They're probably having the same problems as PWJDM...

Maybe, but my point was that a DIY can be quicker than a retail product, simply because a DIY doesn't need as much scrutiny as an aftermarket part. Not at all to say Nitrous' product isn't as high quality, but say if something goes wrong with his intake, he could just fix it. Something goes with an aftermarket part it's a whole other (pricey) ballgame.

Plus, AJR has released parts for us in the past, no reason to believe they're not bringing this one to market.

[NitrousG35]

Originally Posted by aki

Hummm, maybe it's because after prototyping is complete that they need to find a shop to manufacture it, approve the production version for QA, produce the manufacture version, coincide release with a marketing push (community campaigns, print ads, online ads). DIY has none of those considerations.

Actually, the system is made by M&M and is already available. I bought just the lower scoop direct from Japan. I don't think that prototyping is the issue.

The real problem is as Soichiro said. They did not adequately address the MAF housing. We all saw the initial picture with the MAF sensor on the top of the airbox cover. Then, they said it was going to be relocated. However, to make it work, it will need to be in the same place that the stock MAF housing is sitting. To me, they will either need to cut out the inlet tube, or find a way to incorporate vanes and a hole for the MAF sensor.

Originally Posted by aki

Maybe, but my point was that a DIY can be quicker than a retail product, simply because a DIY doesn't need as much scrutiny as an aftermarket part. Not at all to say Nitrous' product isn't as high quality, but say if something goes wrong with his intake, he could just fix it. Something goes with an aftermarket part it's a whole other (pricey) ballgame.

Plus, AJR has released parts for us in the past, no reason to believe they're not bringing this one to market.

Thanks for the compliment, but the truth be told, there is no way that my homemade DIY airbox cover can compete with the M&M/T1R cover. That one is beautifully designed with cf. Mine is made out of ABS sheet plastic and fiberglass. As I said before, the M&M is like an F22 Raptor while mine is a homebuilt airplane. Both fly, but one does it ever so much better. You are also right in that when something is released for a market, all the details need to be worked out first. With mine, I can always sit on the front step and tweak it a little.

Ironically, mine actually would be more compliant in meeting emissions as it has a stock appearance, uses a stock MAF housing and keeps the factory cold air tubing. I wish I could work with these guys.

My idea would be to either remove the inlet or to insert a factory Si MAF housing and make it a part of the airbox cover. After that, they would be ready for sale.

[BlueSi4]

So is this gonna be like the PasswordJDM Power Chamber thread? Or will this be released at some point?

[Bandit03]

haha ive been thinking that since the second week but held my tongue cuz i didnt feel like arguing

[NitrousG35]

^ ^^ I hope for everyone's sake that the T1R, Password JDM and Comptech Icebox all come out. Hope springs eternal. Unfortunately, as well know all too well, things for the K20z3 motor come out ever so slowly if at all.

My concern is that this intake will be filed away like K-Pro, Skunk2 Composite intake manifold and all the intakes mentioned. I have just learned to be patient and do other things to my car while waiting for the good stuff.

[BlueSi4]

Originally Posted by NitrousG35

^ ^^ I hope for everyone's sake that the T1R, Password JDM and Comptech Icebox all come out. Hope springs eternal. Unfortunately, as well know all too well, things for the K20z3 motor come out ever so slowly if at all.

My concern is that this intake will be filed away like K-Pro, Skunk2 Composite intake manifold and all the intakes mentioned. I have just learned to be patient and do other things to my car while waiting for the good stuff.

Well it seems like everytime there's an update it says in the next few weeks, or the next month and stuff like that, but then it keeps going like that. I want to wait for a good intake to come out, but waiting this long for one sucks.

[NitrousG35]

^ I guess I am as guilty as anyone saying, "next week" or "very soon". I dragged out my own cowl induction for almost 5 months, each week promising to be done soon. Whenever you make something new, there are many setbacks. You learn to be patient and keep trying until you finish the job.

Apparently, releasing motor parts for the K20Z3 involves a lot more work than any of us realize.

[F-1 Si]

Originally Posted by aki

Maybe, but my point was that a DIY can be quicker than a retail product, simply because a DIY doesn't need as much scrutiny as an aftermarket part. Not at all to say Nitrous' product isn't as high quality, but say if something goes wrong with his intake, he could just fix it. Something goes with an aftermarket part it's a whole other (pricey) ballgame.

Plus, AJR has released parts for us in the past, no reason to believe they're not bringing this one to market.

Read thru thread you'll notice that it was at 1 point in time all done blah blah blah ready and would only take a few days to "organize the parts. I guess what they should of said was that they got the parts in from M&M and they now had to figure out how to fit an intake designed for an FD2 work on the Si's . These are my .02's

So if you read, all the R&D was done then it wasn't on again off again etc..

[F-1 Si]

Originally Posted by NitrousG35

Well Peter, maybe their kitchen table is smaller than mine...

If they need a bigger tanble my dinning room table seats 12 no problem..

[Excalibur]

Originally Posted by NitrousG35

^ ^^ I hope for everyone's sake that the T1R, Password JDM and Comptech Icebox all come out. Hope springs eternal. Unfortunately, as well know all too well, things for the K20z3 motor come out ever so slowly if at all.

My concern is that this intake will be filed away like K-Pro, Skunk2 Composite intake manifold and all the intakes mentioned. I have just learned to be patient and do other things to my car while waiting for the good stuff.

The icebox won't come out, but ct engineering will come out with an intake. They were supposed to recieve their prototype this month. I've already said too much.