cams!!!for the k20z3

[Excalibur]

Originally Posted by GlxyGry06Si

the hydra system supposidly works great. but its over 2g and is a standalone.

Jarred please pm me more info. I must have been under a rock b/c I didn't even know they had anything out as of yet.

[GlxyGry06Si]

Originally Posted by Excalibur

Jarred please pm me more info. I must have been under a rock b/c I didn't even know they had anything out as of yet.

yes u must have been. get on the little rock thread and a guy named killer rabbit will tell you all about it. i will explain more over there.

[Excalibur]

Originally Posted by GlxyGry06Si

yes u must have been. get on the little rock thread and a guy named killer rabbit will tell you all about it. i will explain more over there.

Roger that.

[bluek20z3]

dose anyone know the spec's of are factory cams and are they better the A2 A3 cams in the RSX type-s i know we have the best Intake manifold and all the A2 A3 guys are trying to switch the RBC intake but do we own them in the cams too or are they the same

[Ainokea_Si]

Originally Posted by bluek20z3

dose anyone know the spec's of are factory cams and are they better the A2 A3 cams in the RSX type-s i know we have the best Intake manifold and all the A2 A3 guys are trying to switch the RBC intake but do we own them in the cams too or are they the same

our cams are better...
e manage is pnp now...right? that is what I thought with the new greddy kits

e manage and aem ems are the ones out. aem has a new pnp b/c a guy was having problems with the installation of the TSI turbo kit.

but what is the extent of these management systems? can they even compare to the kpro that many are waiting for? is it worth the hassle? people with greddy are not having problems but that is with f/i. what about n/a applications?

[Whocares05050]

ECU Upgrades & Tuning Information.

[silverspoon1996]

I have a Emanage and Jumper harness never installed for sale... i want 600 for both.. you can have your tuning.. i got a reflash =0)

[Whocares05050]

Ultimate i take it? Not blue? And you want 600 for the harness? lol...

[bluek20z3]

listen not to put anyone down but in my op. i think piggybacks are no good all they do is trick the computer and the computer try''s to fight it so there's like a battle between your ecu and the piggyback going on and you have no idea plus when your computer is in close loop and you try to add more fuel your computer will fight to get it back to it's oringal value stored in the tune.......dose anyone get my point or do i make no sence here i have alot of experince with piggy backs and personally i don't like them reflash's or standalone's are the way to go :) plus too with are new super smart ecu in are cars if it notice it richer then it's supposed to be or leaner you will throw a cel light

[bluek20z3]

piggy backs are good to certain point i say we just be patient and want for hondata, or cob or someone out there to either make a ECU for are car or a standalone system this is my 2 cents

p.s i alot of the RSX's guys who bought the greddy kit have junked there emanages and switch to k-pro and theres a hell of difference with how the reacts idle is better cruz throttle is better and WOT too bottle lets just wait a little more

[Whocares05050]

Originally Posted by bluek20z3

listen not to put anyone down but in my op. i think piggybacks are no good all they do is trick the computer and the computer try''s to fight it so there's like a battle between your ecu and the piggyback going on and you have no idea plus when your computer is in close loop and you try to add more fuel your computer will fight to get it back to it's oringal value stored in the tune.......dose anyone get my point or do i make no sence here i have alot of experince with piggy backs and personally i don't like them reflash's or standalone's are the way to go :) plus too with are new super smart ecu in are cars if it notice it richer then it's supposed to be or leaner you will throw a cel light

I think you may be a little confused. When your running boost, and are running part throttle, your car keeps switching from closed to open loop. It will fight it, your right. In an all motor set-up, your not going to have this problem. Theres a fast and easy fix for that. unplug your main o2. This will place the car in constant open loop. When running boost, just tune around it. Works like a charm.

[bluek20z3]

Originally Posted by Whocares05050

I think you may be a little confused. When your running boost, and are running part throttle, your car keeps switching from closed to open loop. It will fight it, your right. In an all motor set-up, your not going to have this problem. Theres a fast and easy fix for that. unplug your main o2. This will place the car in constant open loop. When running boost, just tune around it. Works like a charm.

but dosen't your main o2 controll your fuel cruves in your car and won't that set a cel light if disconn...

[bluek20z3]

i don't know dude sounds risky but im not doubting you....i'll just wait for hondata to make some sort of k-pro's for are cars if they do and if they don't then i'll just keep my mods simple i've just had the worst luck with piggy backs i have a greddy ultimate that im trying to get rid of that i had on my 240 and now i want standalone with it and i don't need it anymore and i thought about throwing it in my civic but a buddy of mine talk me out of it :)

[Whocares05050]

Originally Posted by bluek20z3

but dosen't your main o2 controll your fuel cruves in your car and won't that set a cel light if disconn...

Your controlling your fuel curves with the piggy back. Yes, there will be that little light.

[silverspoon1996]

Originally Posted by Whocares05050

Ultimate i take it? Not blue? And you want 600 for the harness? lol...

yes ultimate and its EMANAGE ULTIMATE AND THE HARNESS FOR 600 shipped.. its never installed. I took a look at it and saw that they didnt set the defaults from teh factory for our cars, didnt want to take the time.. when i called up greddy they told me what ot set everything to, and emailed me a basemap for a stock motor, i believe it was a ctr map. I just never decided to use it, But it seems that emanage ultimate should work better with a NA car then a FI because the stock ecu runs partial throttle and closed loop, so when your not flooring it you have issues with "part throttle boost" and other issues while not in open loop.

[Whocares05050]

Originally Posted by silverspoon1996

yes ultimate and its EMANAGE ULTIMATE AND THE HARNESS FOR 600 shipped.. its never installed. I took a look at it and saw that they didnt set the defaults from teh factory for our cars, didnt want to take the time.. when i called up greddy they told me what ot set everything to, and emailed me a basemap for a stock motor, i believe it was a ctr map. I just never decided to use it, But it seems that emanage ultimate should work better with a NA car then a FI because the stock ecu runs partial throttle and closed loop, so when your not flooring it you have issues with "part throttle boost" and other issues while not in open loop.

IF you get greddy's " presure sensor " for 100 bucks, you wont have any issues what so ever with part throttle boost. The reason you have this issue is because you tunning off of throttle pressure, and you really need to be tunning of boost pressure. Get the pressure sensor, keep your set up, have it tuned profesionally and you'll love it. trust me.

[sb12007]

I want cams too. But for the money, new cams, springs, rods, hondata reflash and the labor are you not better of goinf FI?

[Whocares05050]

Originally Posted by sb12007

I want cams too. But for the money, new cams, springs, rods, hondata reflash and the labor are you not better of goinf FI?

F/I Is always the cheaper way out for more HP per dollar.

[silverspoon1996]

Originally Posted by Whocares05050

F/I Is always the cheaper way out for more HP per dollar.

but you get a tiny power curve from a turbo, and loss of power from heat soak from a roots blower.

gotta wait for JR to release there new blower. and still then it uses power to make power so If you dont produce power NA you dont get the full potential out of the product.

[DarkSi08]

Originally Posted by silverspoon1996

but you get a tiny power curve from a turbo, and loss of power from heat soak from a roots blower.

gotta wait for JR to release there new blower. and still then it uses power to make power so If you dont produce power NA you dont get the full potential out of the product.

Tiny power curve from a turbo? Tell that to the Suby guys... I've never seen flatter torque curves in my life.

I'm not saying our cars aren't peaky with a turbo... I'm just saying that's a pretty generalized statement, that doesn't always hold truth. It's all in tuning, as I'm sure, based on your experience, you're well aware. :)

Besides, a tiny power curve doesn't matter, as long as you're a good enough driver to keep the car in that curve. Heck, from the factory, we've only got about 2k RPM of usable power... You're not going to do any worse than that.