Tsx Cams Installed

[nbilyue]

nope, if it was I wouldn't have replaced it haha.

[confusedxpanda]

Batang,

Doug is refering to swapping a k24 block into our bottom end. He doesn't want us to push it too hard as it wasn't build to be revv'd high. If we just have TSX cams in our head, we're fine to rev, just if we dont swap in the k24 block

[k20z3 Koop]

^ I've said that 4 times haha

[BATANG CITY JAIL]

Originally Posted by confusedxpanda

Batang,

Doug is refering to swapping a k24 block into our bottom end. He doesn't want us to push it too hard as it wasn't build to be revv'd high. If we just have TSX cams in our head, we're fine to rev, just if we dont swap in the k24 block

ah...

[Excalibur]

Originally Posted by k20z3 Koop

^ I've said that 4 times haha

I was listening.

[hawjdude]

in for dynos.

[NitrousG35]

Originally Posted by BATANG CITY JAIL

hondata said that it will work on the reflash as long as you dont rev it pass the reflashed TSX rev limiter which is 7600rpm as thier website says..

Originally Posted by Nomar06

Why? Peak power is reached at 7800 on our cars. If you look at dynos without Hondata the power drops off slightly above 7800.

I was quoting Batang. He said that if you run TSX cams, the rev limit with Hondata is 7600. I didn't say that. I was merely repeating what he said.

[BATANG CITY JAIL]

Originally Posted by NitrousG35

I was quoting Batang. He said that if you run TSX cams, the rev limit with Hondata is 7600. I didn't say that. I was merely repeating what he said.

i didnt say that if you run a TSX cam on the SI you can only run 7600 limiter..
the TSX has 7600 limiter after hondata's reflash.

[NitrousG35]

Originally Posted by BATANG CITY JAIL

hondata said that it will work on the reflash as long as you dont rev it pass the reflashed TSX rev limiter which is 7600rpm as thier website says..

Originally Posted by BATANG CITY JAIL

i didnt say that if you run a TSX cam on the SI you can only run 7600 limiter..
the TSX has 7600 limiter after hondata's reflash.

I was just quoting you. You said it.

[k20z3 Koop]

Originally Posted by BATANG CITY JAIL

hondata said that there is no problem swaping the TSX cam and the AFR will adjust easily since the MAF is pretty good on picking up the adjusment, but hondata also advise that as long as you keep it on the certain RPM he see no problem, that RPM is what hondata put the limiter to the tsx reflash. i think its 7600.

Originally Posted by k20z3 Koop

^ From the Hondata thread. he was referring to the K24 block, not cams.

Originally Posted by 20strong

Agreed it was the block not the cams.

Originally Posted by BATANG CITY JAIL

hondata said that it will work on the reflash as long as you dont rev it pass the reflashed TSX rev limiter which is 7600rpm as thier website says..

Originally Posted by k20z3 Koop

Just got off the phone with Doug from Hondata...

Where are you seeing this batang?

Originally Posted by BATANG CITY JAIL

i read it here somewhere..

he was talking about cams... mybe a typo,

if you can run a k24 engine to our car,why running a SI reflash? you have a TSX engine or CRV's engine bolted on your car.....

Originally Posted by k20z3 Koop

Are you sure? I can't seem to find it...

I'm not trying to be a dick, i just don't want any misinformation floating around. You know how things bounce around here, its like a kindergarten game of telephone.

Originally Posted by BATANG CITY JAIL

he was talking about cams... mybe a typo,

if you can run a k24 engine to our car,why running a SI reflash? you have a TSX engine or CRV's engine bolted on your car.....

3)K24s work.. and dont run lean.. but dont rev it over what hondata raises the rev limiter to on a K24a2 TSX.

from hondatas website:
5000 rpm VTEC point decreased from 6000 rpm
7600 rpm Rev limit, increased from 7300 rpm (for auto trans must be in sportshift mode)
Maximum torque gain 26 ft/lbs torque at 6000 rpm
Maximum power gain 29 hp at 6000 rpm
Peak torque increases from 169ft/lbs at 4500 rpm to 175 ft pounds at 7500 rpm
Peak power increases from 206 hp at 7100 rpm to 210 at 6800 rpm
Very wide flat smooth torque curve. 90% of peak torque available from 2000-7000 rpm.
Passes Californian smog testing (no measurable difference from stock)
Fully dealer compatible - works with all Honda scan tools and equipment
The Hondata TSX reflash is designed for use with an intake and headers. It will work very well with a stock airbox and stock headers. Testing was done with a stock cat back system.

Originally Posted by k20z3 Koop

That still refers to the K24 ENGINE not k20 engine with k24 cams.. I'm not seeing it..

I don't see how he typo'd engine for cams several times...

Originally Posted by BATANG CITY JAIL

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Originally Posted by nbilyue

Batang, that post is about using a K24 block with the Z3 head. Not using the K24 cams in the Z3 head.

Originally Posted by k20z3 Koop

He is saying that a K24 block should not be spun as high as a K20 - you'll prolly spin a bearing.

Originally Posted by BATANG CITY JAIL

ah....

[BATANG CITY JAIL]

Originally Posted by NitrousG35

I was just quoting you. You said it.

i said that the reflashed TSX has a limiter of 7600rpm, i also said that when you put a tsx cam (i thought hondata was reffering to the cam) hondata advise that dont rev it pass the TSX's limiter... i did not say that after putting the tsx cam you can only rev 7600 rpm.....

[NitrousG35]

Originally Posted by k20z3 Koop

Thank you Keith. Seems like Mr. Batang has a case of obfucation...

[NitrousG35]

My first post, before you posted:

Originally Posted by NitrousG35

This is something that I would like to do since I am going the N/A route. Sounds like the midrange power has been enhanced as well as when in VTEC. To be able to keep a modded Evo in sight is pretty good. I too am in for more info and dyno numbers if you get them. However, I won't attempt to do this. Think this is one job best left to the pros.

Your response to me:

Originally Posted by BATANG CITY JAIL

but i think hondata said that dont exceed on whats hondatas redline for TSX's reflash...

What you said now:

Originally Posted by BATANG CITY JAIL

i said that the reflashed TSX has a limiter of 7600rpm, i also said that when you put a tsx cam (i thought hondata was reffering to the cam) hondata advise that dont rev it pass the TSX's limiter... i did not say that after putting the tsx cam you can only rev 7600 rpm.....

All I said in my first post that from the results of the TSX cam swap, the mid and top end range seemed stronger. You were the one that replied to me, not me to you.

I think I have the gist of it. No need to reply anymore. I may be dense, but I am no oak tree.

[Excalibur]

It doesn't matter anymore. Nobody has to defend themselves. Everyone read into it what they wanted regardless and the truth of the matter is now out. You can run the tsx cams with the reflash, just not the tsx block and rev it that high.

[NitrousG35]

Originally Posted by Excalibur

It doesn't matter anymore. Nobody has to defend themselves. Everyone read into it what they wanted regardless and the truth of the matter is now out. You can run the tsx cams with the reflash, just not the tsx block and rev it that high.

This is what I thought was the original point of the OP. I thought that by running TSX cams you could still run Hondata. As I see it, the cams simply strengthen the mid and top end.

[BATANG CITY JAIL]

Originally Posted by NitrousG35

My first post, before you posted:

Your response to me:


What you said now:


All I said in my first post that from the results of the TSX cam swap, the mid and top end range seemed stronger. You were the one that replied to me, not me to you.

I think I have the gist of it. No need to reply anymore. I may be dense, but I am no oak tree.

i thought that he was talking about the cam that is why i replid... i didnt say that the limiter will be @ 76000 on the SI after the swaping.....

[NitrousG35]

Originally Posted by BATANG CITY JAIL

i thought that he was talking about the cam that is why i replid... i didnt say that the limiter will be @ 76000 on the SI after the swaping.....

Bro, I understand. No need to explain yourself any further. Both of us have gotten clarification. I am satisfied with the OP's cam swap. Now, we all will have to wait until K-Pro to maximize the power from the cams.

[BATANG CITY JAIL]

Originally Posted by NitrousG35

Bro, I understand. No need to explain yourself any further. Both of us have gotten clarification. I am satisfied with the OP's cam swap. Now, we all will have to wait until K-Pro to maximize the power from the cams.

hondata said that it wont be called k-pro..