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Old 02-28-2008, 05:43 PM   #61 (permalink)
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Thanks Ex. My motor is filthy huh? I hate living in New England. At least when it's winter anyway. If anyone needs any help for any reason with making a stand just shoot me a PM and I will help with any questions you might have.
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Old 02-28-2008, 05:44 PM   #62 (permalink)
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That stand was just quicky. I'm going to make one a little straighter and a little cleaner. I was just trying different spots and different bends. I'm also going to try and find a way to make it look a little better. Maybe polishing it or something. It actually doesn't look that bad in natural aluminum but I don't want the salty roads up here to make it look like crap.

Any suggestions from anyone on a finish for the stand.
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I already bought some flat black paint today. Great minds think alike. lol.
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I already bought some flat black paint today. Great minds think alike. lol.
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where can i order a MAF to play with? does anyone sell them ready to mod, or would i have to cut it out of the filter box? where would i get a new filter box if thats my only option??
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where can i order a MAF to play with? does anyone sell them ready to mod, or would i have to cut it out of the filter box? where would i get a new filter box if thats my only option??
You can order just the air box covers from collegehillshonda.com for about $18.00 and cut the MAF housing out of it.

I'm going to try a few different designs of the X MAF to try and get some more power out of it with a race header.
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so people here are saying that an un-modded MAF on an x-type intake could benefit cars with headers and/ or catbacks??? im i reading this right???
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I'm not doing anything till I see his results. He could definately be on to something. But I don't think there will be enough fuel with the stock vane design. Because when there is no vanes at all is when there is enough fuel to create the power jump. And my theory is that the center section of the MAF housing is where the air is measured for fuel delivery. But I could be completely wrong if Caveman has good results. I hope he does.
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no vains = rich. so shaved vanes should be slightly rich and none modded vanes woudl be more towards the lean part. i have a very good feeling that an un modded maf will create power on a I/H/E car being vs a car with just an intake. lean makes power HOWEVER we need to see if the car runs TOO lean. but i have a feeling it won't.

hopefully the results are amazing. cuz im going to make my own if it is.
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yours sits further back in the engine bay too.
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yours sits further back in the engine bay too.
Mine sits closer because I dont have the Apexi filter.
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Im drawing something in MS Paint right now... but I had a thought on this intake stuff. Ill explain more when i post the picture.
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Ok, below is a really crappy picture, but some recent posts got me thinking.

The stock intake obviously works, but people would like something that makes more power while staying in a good A/F ratio.

Current intakes tend to run rich b/c they have no vanes.

If I understand correctly, the X-intake uses the sanded vanes to 'deflect' air and make the air have less resistance.... but something about deflecting there air above and below the MAF sensor is causing it to have oddball results and sometimes run rich on modified cars.

With the K-intake... it made a little bit of power. My guess would be that most of this power came from a better intake tube and generally the SRI design. However, some people may be concerned that the car could be running too lean because of the vanes disrupting the airflow too much.

So, my thought, would be to try and get the 'best of both worlds' by yes, sanding the vanes... but doing it differently. If the X-intake is running rich b/c the vanes are deflecting air away from the sensor, then we could simply sand the vanes on both sides to deflect air above and below, but also funnel more of the 'middle' ir towards the center of the MAF sensor.

Does that make sense to anyone else? I think it sort of goes along with what soxfan143 was saying previously about messing w/ the center hole of the MAF sensor.

Anyways, below is my picture w/ crappy sketches of the vanes from each intake. Let me know what you think or if its completely retarded b/c i dont understand something... let me know that too. Im by no means 'knowledgeable' in the subject... im just trying to learn and analyze different scenarios to help come up with a solution.

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Ok, below is a really crappy picture, but some recent posts got me thinking.

The stock intake obviously works, but people would like something that makes more power while staying in a good A/F ratio.

Current intakes tend to run rich b/c they have no vanes.

If I understand correctly, the X-intake uses the sanded vanes to 'deflect' air and make the air have less resistance.... but something about deflecting there air above and below the MAF sensor is causing it to have oddball results and sometimes run rich on modified cars.

With the K-intake... it made a little bit of power. My guess would be that most of this power came from a better intake tube and generally the SRI design. However, some people may be concerned that the car could be running too lean because of the vanes disrupting the airflow too much.

So, my thought, would be to try and get the 'best of both worlds' by yes, sanding the vanes... but doing it differently. If the X-intake is running rich b/c the vanes are deflecting air away from the sensor, then we could simply sand the vanes on both sides to deflect air above and below, but also funnel more of the 'middle' ir towards the center of the MAF sensor.

Does that make sense to anyone else? I think it sort of goes along with what soxfan143 was saying previously about messing w/ the center hole of the MAF sensor.

Anyways, below is my picture w/ crappy sketches of the vanes from each intake. Let me know what you think or if its completely retarded b/c i dont understand something... let me know that too. Im by no means 'knowledgeable' in the subject... im just trying to learn and analyze different scenarios to help come up with a solution.

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