Cowl induction for cold, ram air for the Si? - Page 6

***F-1 Si*** · 02-23-2008, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by NitrousG35

I am trying to locate a picture of the induction box on the GSR. This might be just the ticket. What we need is a housing that will accept a larger filter and then connect it to the firewall via brake/cold air tubing.

Found a pic of a 1998 GSR:

Nice find!!

***NitrousG35*** · 02-23-2008, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by F-1 Si

I haven't had any luck eitherAttachment 10991 Get a can opener and help me with the hood.

Oops. That would take quite the pry bar to get that baby opened up.

***NitrousG35*** · 02-23-2008, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by F-1 Si

I wonder why they don't picture the civic box.

I don't know, but it would have to be dimensionally within what we are looking for, for our engine compartment. I could call them for the specs.

Excalibur · 02-23-2008, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by mattsbobo

The Gruppe M still looks to be the best so far.

Yeah, if anyone can make that work, they got my money. That is if it has good driveability and makes more power than my x.

soxfan143 · 02-23-2008, 11:24 PM

It could fit inside the engine bay but you have to make sure the Apexi filter will fit inside also. So nobody thinks the ford style intake box is a good idea? They have an inlet and outlet at both ends that we could attatch piping to. And it would seal up for positive pressure. I'm going to check it out at work on monday. We always have a few ford vans come in for LOF's everyday from enterprise rent a car. You guy work on that CAI box thing and someone check out the GSR setup.

Excalibur · 02-23-2008, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by NitrousG35

Mike, as I have repeatedly said, it takes a village to mod a Civic. Keep coming up with the brainstorming. I know we can make this work.

It's too bad everyone that's active in this forum didn't live in the same area. I'm sure we would be able to come up with something after a week of prototypes, beers, and brainstorming; followed by dyno runs.

soxfan143 · 02-23-2008, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Excalibur

It's too bad everyone that's active in this forum didn't live in the same area. I'm sure we would be able to come up with something after a week of prototypes, beers, and brainstorming; followed by dyno runs.

***F-1 Si*** · 02-23-2008, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by NitrousG35

I don't know, but it would have to be dimensionally within what we are looking for, for our engine compartment. I could call them for the specs.

It might be worth a call.
I see they didn't make 1 for an RSX.Hummmm.
I have my doubts about the earlier Civic box, something tells me it will have enough volume to feed our Si's.

udumkid · 02-23-2008, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by F-1 Si

Nice find!!

where did you get the pic on your avatar?

***F-1 Si*** · 02-23-2008, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by F-1 Si

It might be worth a call.
I see they didn't make 1 for an RSX.Hummmm.
I have my doubts about the earlier Civic box, something tells me it will have enough volume to feed our Si's.

I meant to say it will not have enough volume .....

***F-1 Si*** · 02-23-2008, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by udumkid

where did you get the pic on your avatar?

From post #71 in this thread..

Turbotezza · 02-23-2008, 11:44 PM

My idea is to mock up a custom shape taylored to the space we have using chicken wire mesh amd once the shape was finalized, then I'd fiberglass over the mesh. Voila! Custom induction box!

soxfan143 · 02-23-2008, 11:54 PM

That would be great. But I suck with fiberglass. I hate it. I know this is obvious but make sure you can fit the filter inside without and problems.

Turbotezza · 02-24-2008, 12:12 AM

Way ahead of ya!

The plan was to have a bolt on front panel.

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Originally Posted by soxfan143

That would be great. But I suck with fiberglass. I hate it. I know this is obvious but make sure you can fit the filter inside without and problems.

***NitrousG35*** · 02-24-2008, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by soxfan143

It could fit inside the engine bay but you have to make sure the Apexi filter will fit inside also. So nobody thinks the ford style intake box is a good idea? They have an inlet and outlet at both ends that we could attatch piping to. And it would seal up for positive pressure. I'm going to check it out at work on monday. We always have a few ford vans come in for LOF's everyday from enterprise rent a car. You guy work on that CAI box thing and someone check out the GSR setup.

Mike, can you post up a pic of the Ford box?

BTW, I found this K&N system for a Ford Focus. I think we are getting closer.

New K&N Air Induction System Available for Ford Focus II

***NitrousG35*** · 02-24-2008, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Excalibur

It's too bad everyone that's active in this forum didn't live in the same area. I'm sure we would be able to come up with something after a week of prototypes, beers, and brainstorming; followed by dyno runs.

Well, Texas is just a hop, skip and a jump away from Minnesota by heading north on I35.

udumkid · 02-24-2008, 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by qwerty :)

all the examples you gave are for carburated engines(of the ram being backwards from X's).. i think that the way X had it was the right way, the best way even though i dont think itll make a difference either way.. and it works well for the STi because it goes straight to an intercooler, not just a filter

Wonder what happen with this piece:?

NitrousG35 will be sending you some pics of a ram intake I have on my car for research.... Also here is something I poted a while ago:

The expression "ram air" typicaly refers to isolated combustion air for the engine that is forced-fed from vehicle velocity(speed)If taken from a high pressure area(foglight location)any forward facing air intake should be capeable of increasing the force in the inlet system. Because the inlet is supplied at over ambient temperature, the manifold density is increase as a result. One can calculate the additional force by applying the equation

onefastsi · 02-24-2008, 08:42 AM

a few thoughts....

Why not turn the 'scoop' the other way....or cut a home where the FUJITA sticker is and go from there?

I did this...and posted on it, about 2 months back?? maybe more? :)

RAM Air setup

OH, and feel free to look around what little site it is :)

mattsbobo · 02-24-2008, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by mattsbobo

The Gruppe M still looks to be the best so far.

What would it take to make this style intake work? Gruppe M's stuff is super pricey, but second to none.

***NitrousG35*** · 02-24-2008, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by udumkid

Wonder what happen with this piece:?

NitrousG35 will be sending you some pics of a ram intake I have on my car for research.... Also here is something I poted a while ago:

The expression "ram air" typicaly refers to isolated combustion air for the engine that is forced-fed from vehicle velocity(speed)If taken from a high pressure area(foglight location)any forward facing air intake should be capeable of increasing the force in the inlet system. Because the inlet is supplied at over ambient temperature, the manifold density is increase as a result. One can calculate the additional force by applying the equation

Thanks Rene. It looks like access can be made to the cowl area by what you outlined. I will take a look at my car today for further investigation.

02-23-2008, 11:24 PM	#105 (permalink)
soxfan143 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Lynnfield MA Posts: 1,319 Mike iTrader: 1 / 100%	It could fit inside the engine bay but you have to make sure the Apexi filter will fit inside also. So nobody thinks the ford style intake box is a good idea? They have an inlet and outlet at both ends that we could attatch piping to. And it would seal up for positive pressure. I'm going to check it out at work on monday. We always have a few ford vans come in for LOF's everyday from enterprise rent a car. You guy work on that CAI box thing and someone check out the GSR setup.

02-23-2008, 11:44 PM	#112 (permalink)
Turbotezza Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 88 iTrader: 1 / 100%	My idea is to mock up a custom shape taylored to the space we have using chicken wire mesh amd once the shape was finalized, then I'd fiberglass over the mesh. Voila! Custom induction box!

02-23-2008, 11:54 PM	#113 (permalink)
soxfan143 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Lynnfield MA Posts: 1,319 Mike iTrader: 1 / 100%	That would be great. But I suck with fiberglass. I hate it. I know this is obvious but make sure you can fit the filter inside without and problems.

02-24-2008, 08:42 AM	#118 (permalink)
onefastsi Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: http://fa5ville.myminicity.com/ Age: 42 Posts: 172 I M SPEED iTrader: 0 / 0%	a few thoughts.... Why not turn the 'scoop' the other way....or cut a home where the FUJITA sticker is and go from there? I did this...and posted on it, about 2 months back?? maybe more? :) RAM Air setup OH, and feel free to look around what little site it is :)