maybe with jdm goodies we can have kpro

jameslewis178 · 02-06-2008, 01:15 PM

i think i just figured out how we can have k-pro. the ctr doesnt have a maf right? if we use the jdm ecu, harness, we could have kpro because isnt the ctr ecu just like the itr and the ctr has 2 dashes just like us?

if someone has anything better to say please post on this thread.

**twistedframe** · 02-06-2008, 01:20 PM

I don't know but I'm just thinking. Does the CTR use the same MAP sensor as the FG? Is it mounted in the same location? I have a feeling that because the FG uses a MAF as the primary way to measure air flow, that the MAP sensor on it doesn't read the same as it would if the FG used a speed density (MAP) system to measure air flow. I'm not sure of this, but it just was the 1st thing that popped into my head.

**twistedframe** · 02-06-2008, 01:21 PM

Just to add, I think you would also need a JDM wiring harness.

blackfg2dude · 02-06-2008, 01:23 PM

the cluster of a civic type-r wont work in an Fg2 already tired....

**twistedframe** · 02-06-2008, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by blackfg2dude

the cluster of a civic type-r wont work in an Fg2 already tired....

hmm, but would you be able to do this is you ran the same set up that HASPORT used in the k24 swaped FG? I remember they couldn't get the factory dash to work so they had to use an aftermarket gauge cluster setup.

NIGHTHAWKSI · 02-06-2008, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by blackfg2dude

the cluster of a civic type-r wont work in an Fg2 already tired....

we dont need their cluster, only the ECU. if the JDM ecu can work with the JDM cluster, it should be able to work with our cluster.

the more interesting question is if the JDM engine harness is basically the same as USDM (besides the MAF part)?. if you unplug the MAF sensor and the JDM ecu only reads information for the MAP sensor, i dont see why this wouldnt work. unless there is a whole bunch of other wiring thats differrent.

**twistedframe** · 02-06-2008, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by NIGHTHAWKSI

we dont need their cluster, only the ECU. if the JDM ecu can work with the JDM cluster, it should be able to work with our cluster.
the more interesting question is if the JDM engine harness is basically the same as USDM (besides the MAF part)?. if you unplug the MAF sensor and the JDM ecu only reads information for the MAP sensor, i dont see why this wouldnt work. unless there is a whole bunch of other wiring thats differrent.

I'm not so sure about that since there are some differences between the clusters.

NIGHTHAWKSI · 02-06-2008, 01:49 PM

but our cluster has the lesser of the two features... more than likely the same plugs in the back. chances are the harness just has more wires running through it for the type r for those other features.

**twistedframe** · 02-06-2008, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by NIGHTHAWKSI

but our cluster has the lesser of the two features... more than likely the same plugs in the back. chances are the harness just has more wires running through it for the type r for those other features.

yeah, that could be true. I haven't ever actually looked at a removed cluster. Hopefully its like that, but it could also be just more pins on the same connectors. If thats the case you should still be able to cut the connectors off the JDM harness and solder on the USDM connectors.

NIGHTHAWKSI · 02-06-2008, 01:53 PM

pics of the backs of both clusters are ncessary....

**twistedframe** · 02-06-2008, 01:55 PM

if I had the funds I would deff be down to try this, but it seems like alot of money to invest for unknown results. I'm gonna consult the guy who imported parts for my old accord tonight and see exactly how much it would cost to get something like this. Unfortunately since the CTR is so new the parts would have to be purchased new. It's not like theres already a ton of them laying in junkyards in japan yet.

NIGHTHAWKSI · 02-06-2008, 01:56 PM

yea, probably on the cheap side it would be $600 for the ECU and $1000 for hondata...

**twistedframe** · 02-06-2008, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by NIGHTHAWKSI

yea, probably on the cheap side it would be $600 for the ECU and $1000 for hondata...

I wouldn't even worry about the hondata part yet. I would want to get the ECU and harness to make sure the car will even run with this setup. After that is figured out then hondata could be brought into it.

NIGHTHAWKSI · 02-06-2008, 02:00 PM

the harness probably isnt necssary. the motors wiring is probably 95% the same except the CTR harness wouldnt have a MAF plug on it. so lets say the CTR ECU is plugged into the USDM harness, just leave the MAF plug unattached from the sensor and it should just be ignored.

i actually couldnt picture it being more difficult than getting the CTR ecu reflashed for the immobilizer and plugging it in. as far as the car running corretlt with the wrong tune in it, k-pro should be able to fix it.

jameslewis178 · 02-06-2008, 02:21 PM

im thinking it could be done. i have heard of a few wrecked ctr's already and im thinking if someine is going to buy the harness and ecu them mine as well get the dashes also. lol kinda pricey i would think but it would be bad ass.

**twistedframe** · 02-06-2008, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by jameslewis178

im thinking it could be done. i have heard of a few wrecked ctr's already and im thinking if someine is going to buy the harness and ecu them mine as well get the dashes also. lol kinda pricey i would think but it would be bad ass.

I wouldn't buy the dash unless i knew for sure the USDM dash wouldn't work.

Si_Jeff · 02-06-2008, 02:45 PM

this is a nice theory, hope someone can figure this out if it works..

06sicoupe · 02-06-2008, 02:50 PM

just buy the whole front clip. im gonna guess about $5-$6k

**twistedframe** · 02-06-2008, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by 06sicoupe

just buy the whole front clip. im gonna guess about $5-$6k

spend $5-$6 to get less than $2k worth of parts?

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jameslewis178 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,677 iTrader: 0 / 0%	maybe with jdm goodies we can have kpro i think i just figured out how we can have k-pro. the ctr doesnt have a maf right? if we use the jdm ecu, harness, we could have kpro because isnt the ctr ecu just like the itr and the ctr has 2 dashes just like us? if someone has anything better to say please post on this thread.

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NIGHTHAWKSI Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: long island Age: 22 Posts: 12,684 Ian iTrader: 12 / 100%	but our cluster has the lesser of the two features... more than likely the same plugs in the back. chances are the harness just has more wires running through it for the type r for those other features.

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NIGHTHAWKSI Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: long island Age: 22 Posts: 12,684 Ian iTrader: 12 / 100%	pics of the backs of both clusters are ncessary....

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NIGHTHAWKSI Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: long island Age: 22 Posts: 12,684 Ian iTrader: 12 / 100%	yea, probably on the cheap side it would be $600 for the ECU and $1000 for hondata...

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NIGHTHAWKSI Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: long island Age: 22 Posts: 12,684 Ian iTrader: 12 / 100%	the harness probably isnt necssary. the motors wiring is probably 95% the same except the CTR harness wouldnt have a MAF plug on it. so lets say the CTR ECU is plugged into the USDM harness, just leave the MAF plug unattached from the sensor and it should just be ignored. i actually couldnt picture it being more difficult than getting the CTR ecu reflashed for the immobilizer and plugging it in. as far as the car running corretlt with the wrong tune in it, k-pro should be able to fix it.

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jameslewis178 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,677 iTrader: 0 / 0%	im thinking it could be done. i have heard of a few wrecked ctr's already and im thinking if someine is going to buy the harness and ecu them mine as well get the dashes also. lol kinda pricey i would think but it would be bad ass.

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Si_Jeff Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: NY Posts: 596 iTrader: 2 / 100%	this is a nice theory, hope someone can figure this out if it works..

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06sicoupe Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: OC to the SFV Posts: 623 Chris iTrader: 3 / 100%	just buy the whole front clip. im gonna guess about $5-$6k

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