i have 230HP N/A???????

c130turboprop · 02-05-2008, 03:56 PM

ok, i have the scangauge II with the X-Gauge update. i put in the horsepower thing and i went to redline in 4th gear goin down a road and it said i was at 235 or somewhere in the range Horsepower!?!?!?!?!?!?! now i know there is no way i have that much power, all i have is a injen sri, lsd exhaust, and enkei lightweight wheels. i dont even know what to ask about this??? i guess has anyone did a dyno with a scangauge II to see how they compare together?? i mean, ya, sure, i wouldnt mind it being 100% correct, but i know its not. it was 55 degree when i did that run too juss to let you know. any info welcome!!!!

DATA02 · 02-05-2008, 04:20 PM

Yea I had looked into this one before purchasing, and still haven't made a choice, I'm really curious if the AUTERRA is any better with the data gathered and displayed.

"The charts below compare the Auterra vs. the Dynojet chassis dynamometer. A 2002 Acura RSX with VTEC was tested. The VTEC increases power at about 5800 RPM and both graphs show the gain."

Which is a little reassuring, but not much.

Horsepower Graphs - Dynojet vs. DashDyno Comparison | Auterra

Good luck figuring out ScanGauges formula in calculating HP

***Civicn33b*** · 02-05-2008, 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DATA02

Yea I had looked into this one before purchasing, and still haven't made a choice, I'm really curious if the AUTERRA is any better with the data gathered and displayed.

"The charts below compare the Auterra vs. the Dynojet chassis dynamometer. A 2002 Acura RSX with VTEC was tested. The VTEC increases power at about 5800 RPM and both graphs show the gain."

Which is a little reassuring, but not much.

Horsepower Graphs - Dynojet vs. DashDyno Comparison | Auterra

Good luck figuring out ScanGauges formula in calculating HP

^ where have you been you ghost?! i dont even see you on Ronald Raegan in the mornings anymore. You gonna join ATL*Squad and are you coming to any upcoming meets?

On a different note, i was almost sold on the Auterra, but i really dont understand how accurate these can be, if anything i would expect a lower number than that of a dyno because of drag and other factors

bisemjhrpfg2 · 02-05-2008, 04:48 PM

well in the booklet it says bhp i think, i know its not whp, but i do not know how they calculate it.

silverspoon1996 · 02-05-2008, 04:58 PM

None of those "I PLUG IT IN TO MY CIGARETTE LIGHTER" Readings are very accurate. Its a gimmick that they charge alot of money for.. Why not shell out a 100-150 dollars for a real dyno and get some paper that you can show people..

c130turboprop · 02-05-2008, 05:05 PM

well, to be honest i didnt really beleive it would be accurate for horsepower and i didnt even buy it for horsepower reading, i bought it for more accurate engine readings like coolant temps, intake temps, manifold pressure, etc... but i thought it would be cool to try the horsepower thing and see what i got with it, and i think it is way out...

mitsukaiSI · 02-05-2008, 05:09 PM

is it possible that you have 234 hp at the crank? wouldnt be that hard to believe. 234 at the wheels is a different story i would imagine that the scanguage would tell you what you where making at the crank but i dont know much about it just my guess

c130turboprop · 02-05-2008, 05:12 PM

thats what i was kinda thinking, but it is suppossably at the break, but who knows. the crank would be the logical place to think cause how would it even measure at the breaks or wheels??? juss thought i would ask you guys, if anyone would know, it would be here...

mitsukaiSI · 02-05-2008, 05:15 PM

hmm could be the break but you still lose some power from the hub to the ground aswell

c130turboprop · 02-05-2008, 05:21 PM

well, anyone know how much power is lost between the break and the wheel. i dont think it would be to much. i'm running 18" wheels, not the stock 17"s. i mean, all i have is an injen sri, lsd catback exhaust and the wheels performance wise, and if the gauge was sayin 235, and i would think theres not much power loss from the break to the wheel, and juss guessing like even 215 hp at the wheels (if the 235 is right), then this still seems to high to me with juss the few mods i have...

CNUco2007 · 02-05-2008, 05:22 PM

Brake Horsepower refers to the power at the crank using an engine brake I believe...

How do you set up the ScanGuageII to get the instantaneous HP? I have the latest update with XGuage. Do you know the char string to enter for that or something?

c130turboprop · 02-05-2008, 05:27 PM

^ You have to add it.
Look at page 25 of your manual then look at this PDF:

http://www.scangauge.com/support/pdfs/XGAUGE.pdf

You basically have to go on More>More>more> Xgauge and then select one of the memory banks

this is from truflip in the "anybody sporting a scangauge II" forum... i asked the same question and that is what he said...

razasasin · 02-05-2008, 05:29 PM

^^ beat me to it

Ok, don't get off topic here guys - bhp is net hp at the crank, not the 'brakes.' The term comes from an early way of measuring torque with an external brake and then calculating hp...

DS

c130turboprop · 02-05-2008, 05:31 PM

and i also thought that break hp was at the breaks. i have seen pics of dynos that hook up to the wheel studs and measure hp, thats why i thought break hp was from the wheel breaks, not from an engine brake, i dont know... i'm all confused now

c130turboprop · 02-05-2008, 05:35 PM

if razasasin is correct, is there any formulas out there to find wheel hp if you know the exact brake hp??? or is there to many factors that go into it from car to car to even get close???

CNUco2007 · 02-05-2008, 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by c130turboprop

^ You have to add it.
Look at page 25 of your manual then look at this PDF:

http://www.scangauge.com/support/pdfs/XGAUGE.pdf

You basically have to go on More>More>more> Xgauge and then select one of the memory banks

this is from truflip in the "anybody sporting a scangauge II" forum... i asked the same question and that is what he said...

Thanks! Now I must go play with it

DATA02 · 02-05-2008, 07:16 PM

RE: CIVICN33B

What's up man, I've still been lurking the ATL threads but have been off the radar as of late. I plan on joining the Squad and representing when i get my sh*t in order.

DATA02 · 02-05-2008, 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silverspoon1996

None of those "I PLUG IT IN TO MY CIGARETTE LIGHTER" Readings are very accurate. Its a gimmick that they charge alot of money for.. Why not shell out a 100-150 dollars for a real dyno and get some paper that you can show people..

It's a "Plug into your OBDII" scan type tool not cigarette lighter, but yeah I wouldn't choose it over a mustang dyno either.

c130turboprop · 02-06-2008, 01:57 PM

i emailed scangauge yesterday and got a resonse back. ok, i asked them where the scangauge reads hp from and it is from the brake, not BREAKS like stopping. i feel like an idiot now. anyways, now i guess my question is still the same, ummm, is there any way to convert brake power to flywheel or wheel power?? i know, like most of you said, to juss go to the dyno, but, when you live in the middle of no where like i do, i really dont feel like driving 2 or 3 hours to a dyno. so is there any ideas on how to get an approximate idea on how much power to wheels from brake??? thanks....

baz938 · 02-06-2008, 02:35 PM

probably not because i think a lot of factors play in, such as the lsd. just a guess...

02-05-2008, 03:56 PM	#1 (permalink)
c130turboprop Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Age: 20 Posts: 726 iTrader: 1 / 100%	i have 230HP N/A??????? ok, i have the scangauge II with the X-Gauge update. i put in the horsepower thing and i went to redline in 4th gear goin down a road and it said i was at 235 or somewhere in the range Horsepower!?!?!?!?!?!?! now i know there is no way i have that much power, all i have is a injen sri, lsd exhaust, and enkei lightweight wheels. i dont even know what to ask about this??? i guess has anyone did a dyno with a scangauge II to see how they compare together?? i mean, ya, sure, i wouldnt mind it being 100% correct, but i know its not. it was 55 degree when i did that run too juss to let you know. any info welcome!!!!

02-05-2008, 05:29 PM	#13 (permalink)
razasasin Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: SJC Posts: 148 iTrader: 0 / 0%	wow - bhp= brake hp, not at the brakes ^^ beat me to it Ok, don't get off topic here guys - bhp is net hp at the crank, not the 'brakes.' The term comes from an early way of measuring torque with an external brake and then calculating hp... DS

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c130turboprop Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Age: 20 Posts: 726 iTrader: 1 / 100%	well, to be honest i didnt really beleive it would be accurate for horsepower and i didnt even buy it for horsepower reading, i bought it for more accurate engine readings like coolant temps, intake temps, manifold pressure, etc... but i thought it would be cool to try the horsepower thing and see what i got with it, and i think it is way out...

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mitsukaiSI Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,661 Mike iTrader: 1 / 100%	is it possible that you have 234 hp at the crank? wouldnt be that hard to believe. 234 at the wheels is a different story i would imagine that the scanguage would tell you what you where making at the crank but i dont know much about it just my guess

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c130turboprop Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Age: 20 Posts: 726 iTrader: 1 / 100%	thats what i was kinda thinking, but it is suppossably at the break, but who knows. the crank would be the logical place to think cause how would it even measure at the breaks or wheels??? juss thought i would ask you guys, if anyone would know, it would be here...

02-05-2008, 05:15 PM	#9 (permalink)
mitsukaiSI Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,661 Mike iTrader: 1 / 100%	hmm could be the break but you still lose some power from the hub to the ground aswell

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c130turboprop Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Age: 20 Posts: 726 iTrader: 1 / 100%	well, anyone know how much power is lost between the break and the wheel. i dont think it would be to much. i'm running 18" wheels, not the stock 17"s. i mean, all i have is an injen sri, lsd catback exhaust and the wheels performance wise, and if the gauge was sayin 235, and i would think theres not much power loss from the break to the wheel, and juss guessing like even 215 hp at the wheels (if the 235 is right), then this still seems to high to me with juss the few mods i have...

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CNUco2007 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Chesapeake, VA Age: 23 Posts: 1,160 Eric iTrader: 6 / 100%	Brake Horsepower refers to the power at the crank using an engine brake I believe... How do you set up the ScanGuageII to get the instantaneous HP? I have the latest update with XGuage. Do you know the char string to enter for that or something?

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c130turboprop Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Age: 20 Posts: 726 iTrader: 1 / 100%	^ You have to add it. Look at page 25 of your manual then look at this PDF: http://www.scangauge.com/support/pdfs/XGAUGE.pdf You basically have to go on More>More>more> Xgauge and then select one of the memory banks this is from truflip in the "anybody sporting a scangauge II" forum... i asked the same question and that is what he said...

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c130turboprop Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Age: 20 Posts: 726 iTrader: 1 / 100%	and i also thought that break hp was at the breaks. i have seen pics of dynos that hook up to the wheel studs and measure hp, thats why i thought break hp was from the wheel breaks, not from an engine brake, i dont know... i'm all confused now

02-05-2008, 05:35 PM	#15 (permalink)
c130turboprop Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Age: 20 Posts: 726 iTrader: 1 / 100%	if razasasin is correct, is there any formulas out there to find wheel hp if you know the exact brake hp??? or is there to many factors that go into it from car to car to even get close???

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DATA02 Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 362 iTrader: 0 / 0%	RE: CIVICN33B What's up man, I've still been lurking the ATL threads but have been off the radar as of late. I plan on joining the Squad and representing when i get my sh*t in order.

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c130turboprop Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Age: 20 Posts: 726 iTrader: 1 / 100%	i emailed scangauge yesterday and got a resonse back. ok, i asked them where the scangauge reads hp from and it is from the brake, not BREAKS like stopping. i feel like an idiot now. anyways, now i guess my question is still the same, ummm, is there any way to convert brake power to flywheel or wheel power?? i know, like most of you said, to juss go to the dyno, but, when you live in the middle of no where like i do, i really dont feel like driving 2 or 3 hours to a dyno. so is there any ideas on how to get an approximate idea on how much power to wheels from brake??? thanks....

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