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Old 05-09-2006, 06:05 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Post Any other N/A headz in here!!??!!!

seems like im the only one on this site thats really get'n into the whole N/A thing. Not anytime soon (spent way too much $$ already) I m looking into cams as the next mod to add to the N/A list. any of you k-series gurus out there know if TODA cams from a k20a2 will fit the z3?
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Old 05-10-2006, 10:13 PM   #2 (permalink)
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No I'm pretty sure the cams won't fit. I think that k24a2 cams would work since the k20z3 head is a k24a2 head.
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Old 05-11-2006, 09:40 AM   #3 (permalink)
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All motor or go home!!!! i cant wait till toda starts making parts specifically for our cars!!!
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Old 05-11-2006, 08:00 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I'm still undecided... haha.
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Old 05-15-2006, 01:47 AM   #5 (permalink)
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No I'm pretty sure the cams won't fit. I think that k24a2 cams would work since the k20z3 head is a k24a2 head.
If the K20Z3 has the TSX head, then the RSX/ITR's cams will work.
http://www.hondata.com/tuning_the_tsx.html

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The two engines share an almost identical head design. Cams are interchangeable, so any Cam made for the K20 will fit the K24. Higher lift camshafts require better valve springs, retainers and spring seats.
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Old 05-15-2006, 03:05 AM   #6 (permalink)
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If the K20Z3 has the TSX head, then the RSX/ITR's cams will work.
http://www.hondata.com/tuning_the_tsx.html
Thats exactly what I was going to suggest. The DC5R makes 220 on those cams, so I bet they are worth somethin'! All you might need is the DC5R ECU, or a Hondata K-Pro to get the best from them.
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A DC5R ECU won't work cuz of the DBW.
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Then Hondata it is! I completely forgot about the DBW, but there is a way to fabricate a throttle cable set up yourself, and its really not that expensive.
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Old 05-15-2006, 11:55 AM   #9 (permalink)
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True. I think you need to use the throttle body from a DC5.
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Or you could just use a K24A2 head, DC5R cams and wait for Hondata to crack the DBW on the ECU. The K24A2 was DBW also, so this would make things a little simpler.

Otherwise, an '03-'05 Accord TB, bracket and throttle cable all mount onto the K24A2 Intake Mani.
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oh man im all about na i had my share of boosted cars. i want nothing less than individual throttle bodies for my si in the future lol. i saw a k24a2 with itb's and since we have the same head, itll probably fit im assuming? and with itb's wouldnt that delete the dbw? im guessing all i need now is kpro...
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oh man im all about na i had my share of boosted cars. i want nothing less than individual throttle bodies for my si in the future lol. i saw a k24a2 with itb's and since we have the same head, itll probably fit im assuming? and with itb's wouldnt that delete the dbw? im guessing all i need now is kpro...
So the K-pro will also help to gain even more horsepower out of I/H/E correct? As it will disable immboilizers?
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while NA sounds nice and all...go turbo or go home :/
you're fighting an uphill battle.
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Im not really into n/a.... I mean its nice, and my friend with just cams and a retune made 255... But its all in the boost... Nothing compares, and n/a motors need to do alot just to keep up with low boosting k20's... not to mention the n20's..
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I love ITB!!! I have a crazy design in my head for a custom sort of ram air system to feed ITB's for my Si
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I love ITB!!! I have a crazy design in my head for a custom sort of ram air system to feed ITB's for my Si
Unless they come out with a maf eliminator, the ITB's are staying inside your head...
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I like N/A b/c of the reliability that a good setup can produce. You see with turbo, you have to be on top of that shit constatntly, keep up with fuel management ect ect. Although it can be expensive, N/A i feel is one of the best setups, espeacilly on a Honda motor (mmm 12.1 compression 9,000 rpm redline). Daily driver= N/A setup, cant go wrong...IMO!
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Old 05-23-2006, 05:13 PM   #18 (permalink)
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N/A is nice but the turbo will always turn more head & get a lot more props. NA just doesn't have that WOW factor. when i'm on the road and see a car with a FMIC, i always take a second look and admire the dedication.

Not only that, turbo make more power than NA no matter what.
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Lets just put it this way... Yea, when you go n/a you have the ability to be quick... But what if you go up against a boosted si? or boosted rsx? All they have to do is press a button and they are on high boost... and you are scarred.. In other words for you to change your power output significantly you would have to rebuild the bottom end or completely change your setup... Boost is more cost effective and the longetivity is great..
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I like N/A b/c of the reliability that a good setup can produce. You see with turbo, you have to be on top of that shit constatntly, keep up with fuel management ect ect. Although it can be expensive, N/A i feel is one of the best setups, espeacilly on a Honda motor (mmm 12.1 compression 9,000 rpm redline). Daily driver= N/A setup, cant go wrong...IMO!
hey man deffinatly a na head here and in boca you need to let me know about the meets man, have a ef with b16 na goodies involved. let me know!
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