Piggyback on a stock R18

hannson · 11-27-2007, 10:13 AM

What's the experience of having piggybacks on R18?

turktech · 11-27-2007, 01:35 PM

Only a few had the balls to do it. I think it was a guy from Signapore and had nice power gains from it. (around 180whp)

TPC303 · 11-27-2007, 02:35 PM

I would be down to try it. What are the risks and what sytem should I use

zspeedzkwy · 11-27-2007, 02:42 PM

what is Piggyback???

jumboshrimp23 · 11-27-2007, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by zspeedzkwy

what is Piggyback???

06civictx · 11-27-2007, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by zspeedzkwy

what is Piggyback???

there's a piggyback system and standalone system,you get more out of a standalone,thats all i know lol

***Phalanx*** · 11-27-2007, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by 06civictx

there's a piggyback system and standalone system,you get more out of a standalone,thats all i know lol

I think he literally means 'what is a piggyback'?

I dont know what one is, so could someone please elaborate?

***babaki*** · 11-27-2007, 03:51 PM

i think its something like a second ECU on top of the stock one. i could be completely wrong though.

07LXcoupe · 11-27-2007, 04:23 PM

A piggyback computer runs off of your stock computer and it allows you to alter the fuel and timing tables. A stadalone is the best you can buy it takes the place of the stock computer and it allows you to create you own fuel and timing tables. Standalone probibly wont work in our cars because of our ignition switch has that key sensor thing. So if you want aftermarket engine managment it will have to be piggyback or hondata.

zspeedzkwy · 11-27-2007, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by 07LXcoupe

A piggyback computer runs off of your stock computer and it allows you to alter the fuel and timing tables. A stadalone is the best you can buy it takes the place of the stock computer and it allows you to create you own fuel and timing tables. Standalone probibly wont work in our cars because of our ignition switch has that key sensor thing. So if you want aftermarket engine managment it will have to be piggyback or hondata.

so why we dont do it??

k20beast · 11-27-2007, 05:16 PM

a piggyback is like a apexi neo... idk ab r18's but you can realy us one ona k20

07LXcoupe · 11-27-2007, 11:59 PM

I think no one has used one yet because they dont want to hack up their ecu harness. It will just take someone willing to try it. And it might work pretty well. I greddy has or is developing a type of e-manage designed for i-vtec, and i think the neo will work too. But e-manage will probibly be the best. But dont hold me to that i only have experience with chrome. I've never used a piggybeack.

zspeedzkwy · 11-28-2007, 03:50 AM

a newbie question
can i use emanage if my car is auto transmission

k20beast · 11-28-2007, 07:50 AM

dont see why not...

duh! · 11-28-2007, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by turktech

Only a few had the balls to do it. I think it was a guy from Signapore and had nice power gains from it. (around 180whp)

I think you are talking about my post here

Unichip on a RN6 R18A engine

Nope, I did not get 180whp, that would be friggin insane. I got 180 odd of Torque though

There are quite a fair bit of us here on Unichip already.... personally, I have tried both FConSZ as well as the Unichip Q Plus and another buddy of mine is on Greddy eManage Ultimate... plenty of people can do the splicing on the ecu wirings but there are only a handful of reliable tuners around... recently, there is even a guy who wants to start selling the wire harness for R18 but they costs a bomb SGD480 I think (USD1 = SGD1.45++)......

What I still cant figure out is why on Earth a country so large and advanced like US dont have the necessary avenues for you guys to do these sorta things easily.....

duh! · 11-28-2007, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by hannson

What's the experience of having piggybacks on R18?

Wow... you came all the way here huh?... see you at R series

mO 64 StAnG 06 · 11-28-2007, 11:46 AM

Wait... You were able to get out 180 ft. lbs. of torque out of the R18?! ****** awesome.

I might have to look into this. I don't know if these guy's would work on my car, but right next to Dickey's BBQ down the street is a tuner shop that had the yellow corvette on that show with the 350Z and other cars on the Speed Channel, and several others around here too.

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turktech Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 262 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Only a few had the balls to do it. I think it was a guy from Signapore and had nice power gains from it. (around 180whp)

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TPC303 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Denver, CO Age: 29 Posts: 258 Tim iTrader: 2 / 100%	I would be down to try it. What are the risks and what sytem should I use

11-27-2007, 02:42 PM	#4 (permalink)
zspeedzkwy Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: SEATTLE WA Age: 22 Posts: 694 iTrader: 4 / 100%	what is Piggyback???

11-27-2007, 03:51 PM	#8 (permalink)
*babaki* VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: North Jersey Age: 26 Posts: 721 Justin iTrader: 3 / 100%	i think its something like a second ECU on top of the stock one. i could be completely wrong though.

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07LXcoupe Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Cape coral Age: 19 Posts: 76 Tony iTrader: 1 / 100%	A piggyback computer runs off of your stock computer and it allows you to alter the fuel and timing tables. A stadalone is the best you can buy it takes the place of the stock computer and it allows you to create you own fuel and timing tables. Standalone probibly wont work in our cars because of our ignition switch has that key sensor thing. So if you want aftermarket engine managment it will have to be piggyback or hondata.

11-27-2007, 05:16 PM	#11 (permalink)
k20beast Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: clemson SC Age: 18 Posts: 1,114 zack iTrader: 2 / 100%	a piggyback is like a apexi neo... idk ab r18's but you can realy us one ona k20

11-27-2007, 11:59 PM	#12 (permalink)
07LXcoupe Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Cape coral Age: 19 Posts: 76 Tony iTrader: 1 / 100%	I think no one has used one yet because they dont want to hack up their ecu harness. It will just take someone willing to try it. And it might work pretty well. I greddy has or is developing a type of e-manage designed for i-vtec, and i think the neo will work too. But e-manage will probibly be the best. But dont hold me to that i only have experience with chrome. I've never used a piggybeack.

11-28-2007, 03:50 AM	#13 (permalink)
zspeedzkwy Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: SEATTLE WA Age: 22 Posts: 694 iTrader: 4 / 100%	a newbie question can i use emanage if my car is auto transmission

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k20beast Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: clemson SC Age: 18 Posts: 1,114 zack iTrader: 2 / 100%	dont see why not...

11-28-2007, 11:46 AM	#17 (permalink)
mO 64 StAnG 06 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Wylie, Texas Age: 19 Posts: 2,230 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Wait... You were able to get out 180 ft. lbs. of torque out of the R18?! ****** awesome. I might have to look into this. I don't know if these guy's would work on my car, but right next to Dickey's BBQ down the street is a tuner shop that had the yellow corvette on that show with the 350Z and other cars on the Speed Channel, and several others around here too.