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Old 11-18-2007, 02:46 PM   #1 (permalink)
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skunk2 cam gears??

it states on king motorsports that these cams would dislodge the vtec. so if its doing that whats the purpose is there another way its extracting power???
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I think you are misunderstanding. The intake cam gear would disengage vtc. Basically what they are saying is for a street car get the cams and the exhaust cam gear only.
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o ok tnx n do u think it would net me a lotta power?
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Old 11-18-2007, 11:16 PM   #4 (permalink)
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do u have stock cams? the aftermarket cam gear might not give u any power if some at all. there usually available for aftermarket cam setups so that u can adjust the aftermarket cam for optimal power. I dont wanna say that u'll get none but u probably wont get a lot if any.

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o ok tnx n do u think it would net me a lotta power?
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Old 11-19-2007, 03:33 AM   #5 (permalink)
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its a waste on a stock cam
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Old 11-19-2007, 08:50 AM   #6 (permalink)
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tried and tested it does increase power being able to adjust the exhaust cam even on a oem cam.
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Old 11-19-2007, 08:54 AM   #7 (permalink)
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waste of money...for stock cams
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Old 11-19-2007, 09:09 AM   #8 (permalink)
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yes i have stock 4 now but was looking in 2 the skunk2 cam gears i misunderstood @ 1st when it said it would disengage vtec(intake cam)
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yes i have stock 4 now but was looking in 2 the skunk2 cam gears i misunderstood @ 1st when it said it would disengage vtec(intake cam)
eliminating Ivtec is only good on extreme race engines...
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just curious but how much did u get?

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tried and tested it does increase power being able to adjust the exhaust cam even on a oem cam.
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while on the topic of cams, what would be the drawback to installing turbo cams on an NA car? I plan on getting the X MAF V.2 with Skunk2 Turbo cams..I am aware that it wont be a helpful as NA cams but with the addition of an exhaust cam gear cant I make it work just like an NA camshaft?
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while on the topic of cams, what would be the drawback to installing turbo cams on an NA car? I plan on getting the X MAF V.2 with Skunk2 Turbo cams..I am aware that it wont be a helpful as NA cams but with the addition of an exhaust cam gear cant I make it work just like an NA camshaft?
I guess the question is why would you want to put turbo cams into a car w/o turbo? Generally there is a decrease in power when installing turbo cams in n/a apps...I would suggest looking into oem cams instead...can benefit both turbo and n/a apps.
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well if i were to FI the car later I would not have to buy another set of cams. SO take the poor mans rout for now, make it as good as possible cause NA cams have a greater lift and duration on the intake side and Turbo has it on the exhaust side, and by using the exhaust cam gear I can adjust timing to better sync to an NA setup!....
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well if i were to FI the car later I would not have to buy another set of cams. SO take the poor mans rout for now, make it as good as possible cause NA cams have a greater lift and duration on the intake side and Turbo has it on the exhaust side, and by using the exhaust cam gear I can adjust timing to better sync to an NA setup!....
I see your point, honestly I think it would be money wasted...
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oh But how so, there is logic to this argument? Would this not work?
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I guess the question would be is it worth the effort?
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Old 11-19-2007, 01:38 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Why sure! If your going to do cams, and from what ive read the only cam gear you would need ever would be the exhaust side, then make it usable for a variety of applications and make it future proof! BTW looking at you avatar is making me think twice about this idea of mine....
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how bout you just buy the turbo cams now and wait to put them in when you get the turbo kit. that would only be logical and it would be stupid tp put them in when you dont have a turbo.
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true. but I was in the market for X's V.2 for cammed motors. Knowing it will work for all cammed motors It looked like a good idea for a nice bump in power and it will work nicely with all other upgrades from there on. And I was hoping it would offset the issue, along with the exhaust cam gear, of the Turbo cams in the NA
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I've used aftermarket cam gears on stock cams before. The gains, although pretty small, are still there. The best route would be to figure out exactly what you are building your engine for and look for the proper specs and settings from there.
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