Drive by wire = LAG!

[honda_man12]

I notice the lag to be HORRIBLE when the car is cold...whenever I shift its like a 15 yr old trying to learn manual lol

[abarab]

Originally Posted by Cuban Si

then im stumped. why do u have 07 reflash on 06?

I bought the reflash from a friend who has an 07, he blew his motor and needed to sell it so i bought it from him. Having done so, my rpm's don't hang anymore, cus supposedly they fixed that problem with the 07 models. But the lag...apparently they didn't fix that.

[07k20z3ftw]

its not lag, we have low torque, get usto driving a honda.

[rbsjnh]

Originally Posted by 07k20z3ftw

its not lag, we have low torque, get usto driving a honda.

That is correct!!! All honda motors are the same way...an h22, b16, b18, until its over 4500 rpm its a dog...unless you have lag at 7000 rpm's there is no problem

[abarab]

Originally Posted by 07k20z3ftw

its not lag, we have low torque, get usto driving a honda.

Originally Posted by rbsjnh

That is correct!!! All honda motors are the same way...an h22, b16, b18, until its over 4500 rpm its a dog...unless you have lag at 7000 rpm's there is no problem

torque?! you must be noobies, go drive a car with drive-by-cable and you'll know what i'm talking about. the only reason why you do feel the "lag" that YOU'RE talking about in b series and h series motors is because they make less power and torque to begin with. 06 si's are faster and thats why you think the b and h series have that "lag"

[Tastycakes]

Why is everyone hatin on the DBW? Course i'm sure ppl out there hated fuel injection when it first came. I seriously wouldnt' doubt if there were forums back then youd have a bunch of "fuel injection = lag" threads. Then there would be a thread on someone converted to a carb.

[friedk]

Abarab is right.

I've driven incredibly underpowered, manual, old, POS Saturns and Kias with cable throttles that have an immediate throttle response.

It isn't the lack of torque. If those cars can respond when you press the throttle then so should ours.

Tastycakes this isn't about hating on drive by wire. This is about hating on our car's LAG because of how our drive by wire is. There are plenty of drive by wire Hondas that don't have that stupid throttle lag we have and actually respond when the throttle is pressed.

[emopains]

The lag in response was to make the vehicle more responsive at higher rpms because of it's low torque output. Some guy told me it makes it easier to drive. I don't know what he was talking about. I went with the hondata.

[nunoctr]

http://www.jdm-option.com/eng/parts/06_12/direct.html


in other cars the same problem...

[blackhawk black si]

Originally Posted by Tastycakes

Why is everyone hatin on the DBW? Course i'm sure ppl out there hated fuel injection when it first came. I seriously wouldnt' doubt if there were forums back then youd have a bunch of "fuel injection = lag" threads. Then there would be a thread on someone converted to a carb.

Sure everyone fears change however the dbw is hated by the tuner community becuase nobody has been able to bring out an ECU to run with the dbw. Meaning no Kpro no way of actually being able to tune your car. Im sure eventually something will be done and the whole dbw will be a distant memory but for now

[Dwn4nythng]

Throw in some pulleys and some of that lag disappears. I can dip in mines with no lag.

[nofd1977]

No lag on this 06 SI

[reaper702]

no lag to speak of in my 06, well no noticable lag imo. my mom's 06 honda accord has lag like there is no ******* tomorrow though. it has dbw and **** is so slow, i can seriously quickly step on the gas and let go and the motor won't react until my foot is alread off the pedal.

[Robare]

Well my 06 SI was one of the earlier batches (2257) and even after the reflash it has a slight lag up over 4k rpm....I'm curious about the post's that said their 06 SI's had NO lag ....what VIN number...?