New CAI Concept

[tomasro]

I don't believe this has been addressed before, but has anyone contemplated using an intercooler to chill the air of a CAI?

[Firestrife]

I think.The problem with using an intercooler without F/I is the long piping and the flow would probably negate any gains from the cooling. dont quote me on it though.

[tomasro]

It would allow more length in pipe...thus air for when you mash the throttle. But I'm sure it would be more susceptible to heatsoak.

[Firestrife]

well what i was saying is like you know how a SRI works by reducing the length of pipe air needs to travel to increase flow. I think the Intercooler and longer pipe would/could bottleneck that flow, without F/I.

[Chase]

plsu you could possibly be labeled as one of those guys with a FAKE intercooler that we have around here.

[Jardiniboy]

Don't tell me you want one of these?

http://www.yakuzaracing.com/media/arocoldfront.jpg

[fishermoe14]

Originally Posted by Jardiniboy

Don't tell me you want one of these?

http://www.yakuzaracing.com/media/arocoldfront.jpg

hahaha that is awesome.. :P

[KidnKorner]

Originally Posted by tomasro

I don't believe this has been addressed before, but has anyone contemplated using an intercooler to chill the air of a CAI?

The problem with this idea is that the intercooler is made from metal, which metal is a heat conductor and it will be located near the radiator thus taking on temperatures of that. Even if the flow wasn't the problem you would have intake air temperatures hotter than using a short ram or cold air intake.

The only way this idea would work is if you had a very small intercooler like those found on the last model GST eclipse and you hooked up a CO2 intercooler sprayer kit to ice down the intercooler.

You see, when a turbo compresses air it becomes hotter than outside ambient air temperatures. Also the exhaust side of the turbo is making the compressor side of the turbo hot as well. The idea of the intercooler is to reduce the temperature of that air which I'm sure is well over 150 degrees. I have heard it can as hot as 300, but I can't be sure on that as I am not an expert on how hot the air is.

[glennhl]

Intercoolers only work if your cooling media is colder than the intake air. So if you heat up the intake air a lot with a compressor (supercharger or turbocharger), then you can use the outside air (that is cooler) to cool off the heated intake air.

Now if you are naturally aspirated and you have a cold air inlet (like the stock inlet) there is no cooling media that is colder than the intake air so an intercooler will not work. All you need is a good cold air intake, that's it.

[Excalibur]

Originally Posted by Jardiniboy

Don't tell me you want one of these?

http://www.yakuzaracing.com/media/arocoldfront.jpg

That looks horrible. They used that on hptv.

[tomasro]

Hmmm...well, I wasn't thinking of having the filter AS the "intercooler" like that pic. But more like a cone filter on one end of the intercooler, and the metal of the intercooler allowing the air passing over the intercooler to chill the air going to the throttle body. That CryO2 thing that sprays the intercooler might be a good idea to chill the air...but adding an intercooler might be excessive/unnecessary. I just feel that a normal CAI doesn't produce the kind of cold air that it should. Thoughts?

[Excalibur]

Originally Posted by tomasro

Hmmm...well, I wasn't thinking of having the filter AS the "intercooler" like that pic. But more like a cone filter on one end of the intercooler, and the metal of the intercooler allowing the air passing over the intercooler to chill the air going to the throttle body. That CryO2 thing that sprays the intercooler might be a good idea to chill the air...but adding an intercooler might be excessive/unnecessary. I just feel that a normal CAI doesn't produce the kind of cold air that it should. Thoughts?

You could do something like this in conjunction with your cai. http://www.fgcoupe.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4845

[stevediehlman]

rice

[pkkid]

If the filter is attached to the intercooler then the air passing over would be the same temperature as the air going in

[Highrev1]

http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...rm=interfooler

[07k20z3ftw]

Originally Posted by Highrev1

http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...rm=interfooler

hahahaa i was just about to say "interfooler"
wow..to rice-like.

[TexasK20Z]

you cannot cool air below ambient temps using ambient air. If you are minimizing the heating of air from a traditional CAI, you would be wasting time, money, space and everything else involved.

[tomasro]

What about a water intercooler CAI? (Air comes in through a cone filter, passes through an intercooler that is air or peltier cooled, and then goes to the throttle body) I don't know if this exists...but it would purify the temperature of the air...maybe even drop it as well.

Would this be just as effective as getting a CryO2 kit for a CAI or better?

[TexasK20Z]

You are adding restrictions into the air stream with any of these options... the $1000 or so you would spend would be better put out on a race header and Hondata...

[Asif22]

Not to offend anyone, but I would never put that on my car unless I gained over 50whp just becasue it's an interfooler! OMG LOLZ WTF G2G TTUL : )