AEM Controller Questions?

[GeorgiaBoy]

I spoke with a local guy at my work and stated that I needed to get to vtec faster. Heatsink in South GA sucks bad. He suggested a guy that does reflashes and computer work on most all cars. Long story short he was going to become a Hondata guy until he discussed the amount of money and the purchasing of software. All of this leads me to this option. He discussed that AEM had a new FIC out and that it would be a better solution. Any ideas out there that can help? Below is the website for AEM and the run down on the part I am discussing. Thanks.


Fuel / Ignition Controller (F/IC)
The AEM F/IC is an economical solution for controlling fuel and ignition on vehicles that do not require stand-alone engine management, including variable cam timing engines like VTEC, VVTi and MiVEC.

OVERVIEW

The F/IC gives users with OBD-II vehicles and non-factory forced induction systems the ability to retard ignition and deliver accurate amounts of fuel without the need for outdated FMUs or “boost hiding” controllers. This system works parallel to the factory ECU preventing tuning limitations due to complex factory timing patterns and will not cause a check engine light (CEL).

PRECISE FUEL DELIVERY

The F/IC intercepts the signal to the stock injectors, allowing the user to modify pulse-width by +/-100%. The F/IC is the only piggy-back system that can decrease injector pulse-width, allowing the user to drive larger aftermarket injectors* while still maintaining proper air / fuel ratios. This powerful system can also tap into the factory injector signal and work independently to drive up to six (6) additional injectors.

TIMING RETARD CONTROL

The F/IC has the ability to retard timing by intercepting and delaying the outputs from the cam and crank position sensors to the engine- with no adverse affect on applications equipped with variable cam timing. The F/IC can retard timing from the factory system based on engine RPM and load inputs.

SENSOR CALIBRATION & CONTROL

The F/IC can also be used to recalibrate / clamp the MAF sensor, eliminating common problems with non-boosted factory MAFs. The on-board MAP sensor allows for proper fueling in boosted applicatons.

PLUG & PLAY HARNESSES- COMING SOON!

To ease the installation of the F/IC, AEM will soon offer plug and play wiring harnesses for select applications, making the F/IC a true Plug and Play module. The first harnesses developed will be for the Nissan 350Z, Scion tC and Acura RSX. Pricing and availability coming soon.

CAN-BUS SYSTEMS NOT AFFECTED

Since the F/IC works in conjunction with the factory ECU, late model-vehicles equipped with a CAN-BUS system retain functionality of climate controls, dash and other components on the network.

VALIDATED APPLICATION LISTING

The F/IC has been tested and validated for the following applications:

03-06 Nissan 350Z / G35
04-07 Scion xA, xB tC M/T
04-07 Mazda 3 M/T
05-07 Chevy Cobalt
03-05 Toyota Celica GT-S
03-04 Toyota Matrix
03-04 Toyota Corolla
All Honda K-Series M/T
We will be actively expanding this list as additional applications are validated. Visit the F/IC section of the AEM Electronics Forum at aempower.com for the latest validation listing and wiring schematics.

KIT CONTENTS

F/IC Module
F/IC Tuner Software CD
F/IC Bypass Harness
24" Flying Lead Harness
36" Vacuum Hose
3/16" T-Fitting
10' USB COM Cable
4 - 4" Zip Ties
Instruction Manual
RECOMMENDED PARTS

30-4100 AEM Wideband UEGO Gauge-Type Controller
30-4350 TRU-BOOST Gauge-Type Boost Controller

KEY FEATURES

Works with latest OBD-II vehicles including variable valve control
VTEC controller based on Engine RPM and Load
Six (6) injector inputs with simulated injector load used when remapping OEM injectors
Six (6) fuel injector controllers for either remapping of ECU output (+/- 100% trim) or as a stand-alone extra injector driver
21x17 maps with configurable load and RPM breakpoints
Analog in / out for remapping / clamping MAF
F/IC draws power from PC USB interface for quick and easy calibration changes
64kb on-board data logger
Drives high impedence injectors or low impedence injectors with use of Peak & Hold Injector Driver Box
Three (3) channels of timing retard
Supports MAG or HALL sensor types
On board 41PSIA (approx. 25PSI boost) manifold pressure sensor
Windows-based Tuning Software

Product Description Part # Price
Fuel / Ignition Controller (F/IC)
AEM Fuel / Ignition Controller (F/IC)
30-1910 $464.10



aem website:
http://www.aempower.com/ViewCategory...CategoryID=116

[Highrev1]

Search IT wont work..


The F/IC was designed assuming that a car would have either a MAF sensor or a MAP sensor. Whichever you have would be hooked up to the MAF sensor line and then you could remap or clamp the signal as necessary.

However, a few cars have both. The 06+ Hondas. The current version of F/IC software does not support modifying both signals, it works with either one but not both. However, we are working on a software upgrade that will allow mapping the F/IC MAP sensor signal to an unused pin and then you could calibrate that output voltage to whatever you needed.

So, in short, right now you cant spoof BOTH signals to the factory ECU. A new software version is coming that will allow you to do so.

[r18power]

nope. search for threads on the afc neo.

oop, Greg beat me 2 it

[GeorgiaBoy]

I obviously need to search the threads. Thanks for the help. I am still curious to see what this guy has in mind. I will update after I speak to him and see what you guys think.

[SpeedDemon]

Originally Posted by Highrev1

Search IT wont work..


The F/IC was designed assuming that a car would have either a MAF sensor or a MAP sensor. Whichever you have would be hooked up to the MAF sensor line and then you could remap or clamp the signal as necessary.

However, a few cars have both. The 06+ Hondas. The current version of F/IC software does not support modifying both signals, it works with either one but not both. However, we are working on a software upgrade that will allow mapping the F/IC MAP sensor signal to an unused pin and then you could calibrate that output voltage to whatever you needed.

So, in short, right now you cant spoof BOTH signals to the factory ECU. A new software version is coming that will allow you to do so.

SO IT WONT WORK?!?!?!?!?

[hannson]

Originally Posted by Highrev1

Search IT wont work..


The F/IC was designed assuming that a car would have either a MAF sensor or a MAP sensor. Whichever you have would be hooked up to the MAF sensor line and then you could remap or clamp the signal as necessary.

However, a few cars have both. The 06+ Hondas. The current version of F/IC software does not support modifying both signals, it works with either one but not both. However, we are working on a software upgrade that will allow mapping the F/IC MAP sensor signal to an unused pin and then you could calibrate that output voltage to whatever you needed.

So, in short, right now you cant spoof BOTH signals to the factory ECU. A new software version is coming that will allow you to do so.

new AEM software is now out to clamp both signals :)

[nunoctr]

can't We use this with hondata reflash and then fine tuning the fuel and timing?

[jeremy0203]

hmmm someone needs to try this and tell us how well it works

[Highrev1]

It used to not work...But they upgraded the software and now it can do some things...THe FIC will add fuel and retard timing, and clamps and controls some sensors..That is all, it does NOT have Vtec control for our cars, and can not control VTC, better known as cam angles so it is somwhat limited...

[slostjoe]

This would work better than e-manage thou??

[disboiflaco]

it works like HIGHREV said i believe. im going for it.

[Whocares05050]

Adjust fuel, and retard timing is all for now.