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Old 06-24-2007, 03:29 AM   #1 (permalink)
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At what point would i fail smog?

Im gonna list my mods in the order im gonna do them and i want to know which step you guys think i will fail smog on so i know when to stop.

1) Injen CAI
2) Vibrant Exhaust
3) Hondata Heatshield
4) Hondata Reflash
5) Random Technology High-Flow Catalytic Converter

And also, do all the parts have to be carb legal?

NOTE: I live in California so i have to pass smog in the bitchiest state ever.
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Honestly, I don't think you will have a problem. If you didn't have a cat at all or got an aftermarket header, you might be running into some problems.
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I advise you to please use CARB products for your own sake. First most smog inspection facilities will not pass you if they find an obvious aftermarket part with no CARB EO Number. Second if you get pulled over and a cop expects your engine Bay and finds alot of non CARB legal enhancements he has the option to have your car impounded or maybe crushed now(Im not really sure about this one).

So basically
1.No on CAI since it is not CARB approved just pending(so no)
2. Exhaust is no biggie they dont care about emissions after the catalytic but make sure its not TOo loud CA Limit is 93 Decibel I think stock is 89(at WOt)
3. Not sure
4. It may increase your smog emissions but not to the point of failure
5. Dont trust High flow they do not work as effectively as stock and if you choose the reflash you may have increased smog emissions

I hope I helped but thats How this is in this State
http://www.chp.ca.gov/html/streetlegal.html

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I hope I helped but thats How this is in this State
http://www.chp.ca.gov/html/streetlegal.html
lol @ "Remember - FTBC (failure to be cool) is not a crime!"

Oh yeah, one question for you, since your in the chair force.. are you an actual resident of california, or just stationed here?
Im stationed in California, but am legally a resident of Washington. I still use my WA drivers license, with plates from WA as well.. so I called up the CARB people and asked if it was legal for my "out of state" vehicle to have aftermarket parts that weren't CARB certified, even though I have been here for 3 years (and doesn't look like im leaving anytime soon). They told me as long as im not registered in the state of Cali, I can put whatever on my car as long as it adheres to EPA and my State's regulations. So if you got a drivers license from a different state, you may want to register your car with that state as well, so you're options aren't as limited.

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if you don't past inspection then you fail.
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I advise you to please use CARB products for your own sake. First most smog inspection facilities will not pass you if they find an obvious aftermarket part with no CARB EO Number. Second if you get pulled over and a cop expects your engine Bay and finds alot of non CARB legal enhancements he has the option to have your car impounded or maybe crushed now(Im not really sure about this one).

So basically
1.No on CAI since it is not CARB approved just pending(so no)
2. Exhaust is no biggie they dont care about emissions after the catalytic but make sure its not TOo loud CA Limit is 93 Decibel I think stock is 89(at WOt)
3. Not sure
4. It may increase your smog emissions but not to the point of failure
5. Dont trust High flow they do not work as effectively as stock and if you choose the reflash you may have increased smog emissions

I hope I helped but thats How this is in this State
http://www.chp.ca.gov/html/streetlegal.html
i actually just got pulled over by a cop tonight and my mods are injen cai, vibrant exhaust, and hodata reflash. the cop asked me to pop my hood so i did and i could see him looking at my cai but he didnt say anything about it. and he asked if my exhaust was c.a.r.b legal i told him it was and the sticker is on there some where hoping he wouldn't look for it , even though it doesnt have a sticker. but the reason he pulled me over in the first place was because i dont have a front license plate on. so i think the op should be fine with those parts when it's time to smog.
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wait they pull you over for no license plate and you have to pop your hood?
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wait they pull you over for no license plate and you have to pop your hood?
yup...that was probably his excuse to pull me over so he could check under my hood.
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lol @ "Remember - FTBC (failure to be cool) is not a crime!"

Oh yeah, one question for you, since your in the chair force.. are you an actual resident of california, or just stationed here?
Im stationed in California, but am legally a resident of Washington. I still use my WA drivers license, with plates from WA as well.. so I called up the CARB people and asked if it was legal for my "out of state" vehicle to have aftermarket parts that weren't CARB certified, even though I have been here for 3 years (and doesn't look like im leaving anytime soon). They told me as long as im not registered in the state of Cali, I can put whatever on my car as long as it adheres to EPA and my State's regulations. So if you got a drivers license from a different state, you may want to register your car with that state as well, so you're options aren't as limited.
actually im not in the forces yet, i just graduated highschool and am going to attend the air force academy over in colorado springs for officer training next fall. so i should maybe wait until i get my primary residency over in colorado then?
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actually im not in the forces yet, i just graduated highschool and am going to attend the air force academy over in colorado springs for officer training next fall. so i should maybe wait until i get my primary residency over in colorado then?
Yes, and your also going to have to get a new drivers license in whatever state your registering your vehicle. Then the cops in Cali shouldn't be able to say crap about your setup as long as its legal in Colorado.

Oh I almost forgot, one other thing the CARB people told me was to just keep magazine cutouts or some sort of official paper showing/saying that a particular performance part on your car is 49 (or 50) state legal. Just in case the cops do try to give you any lip.
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