Most N/A HP Without Engine Mods?

F1fletch · 03-28-2007, 12:19 AM

No cams, etc. Just bolt on's and ECU. What kind of BHP could you expect 225, 230?

freakvision03 · 03-28-2007, 01:28 AM

im going to say 215 whp.

BATANG CITY JAIL · 03-28-2007, 01:30 AM

100...

Jay Kincannon · 03-28-2007, 01:35 AM

I assume you are talking about the SI.

***qwerty :)*** · 03-28-2007, 02:37 AM

intake mani and reflash allowed?
id say ~220

honda06si · 03-28-2007, 10:29 AM

220 MAYBE 230

FG*SQUAD Nick · 03-28-2007, 10:31 AM

yeah I would say 220 whp would be pushing it...

BlackSi10 · 03-28-2007, 11:54 AM

since bhp for the si is 197 hp and most people are getting around 173-178whp on stock...that is a 20 hp drop or so. If you are like me and have i/e/h/c/reflash...just basic bolt ons and are pushing around 205-210 whp...i think you would be able to get around 225-230 bhp. Thats my thoughts on it.

Anubis · 03-28-2007, 12:23 PM

I was thinking around 225 would be max n/a without engine work.

vetkiller · 03-28-2007, 12:48 PM

I don't know, I think there is so much potential there. Let's look at it hypothetically:

Injen CAI
DC Race Header
DC Race Exhaust
Hondata IM Gasket & Reflash
Skunk 2 Composite Ported Manifold
Skunk 2 Composite Fuel Rail
Pulley set

I'm betting 240ish bhp = 215 whp

Add on Exedy Clutch kit with Flywheel = Same bhp = 220ish whp

Add on Ingalls Stiffy = hooking up faster & no wheel hop

Breaking off a S2k = Priceless

FusionSi11 · 03-28-2007, 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vetkiller

I don't know, I think there is so much potential there. Let's look at it hypothetically:

Injen CAI
DC Race Header
DC Race Exhaust
Hondata IM Gasket & Reflash
Skunk 2 Composite Ported Manifold
Skunk 2 Composite Fuel Rail
Pulley set

I'm betting 240ish bhp = 215 whp

Add on Exedy Clutch kit with Flywheel = Same bhp = 220ish whp

Add on Ingalls Stiffy = hooking up faster & no wheel hop

Breaking off a S2k = Priceless

wat bout some cams....add on some cams

ProStreet · 03-28-2007, 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vetkiller

I don't know, I think there is so much potential there. Let's look at it hypothetically:

Injen CAI
DC Race Header
DC Race Exhaust
Hondata IM Gasket & Reflash
Skunk 2 Composite Ported Manifold
Skunk 2 Composite Fuel Rail
Pulley set

I'm betting 240ish bhp = 215 whp

Add on Exedy Clutch kit with Flywheel = Same bhp = 220ish whp

Add on Ingalls Stiffy = hooking up faster & no wheel hop

Breaking off a S2k = Priceless

Clutch and flywheel don't add HP.

The Shishpanik · 03-28-2007, 01:22 PM

They don't add horsepower, but they cut the losses on horsepower to the wheels (due to a single clutch plate setup and lighter flywheel there is less resistance to the power coming to the wheels).

jdrumstik · 03-28-2007, 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bo0oost

Clutch and flywheel don't add HP.

I'd argue they add whp though.

Good thread BTW, been wondering this myself.

noahrexion^2 · 03-28-2007, 04:04 PM

Quote:

Breaking off a S2k = Priceless

Nighthawk07 · 03-28-2007, 04:25 PM

Nice... this is what I'm aspiring for, since boost is so costly.

TJ213 · 03-28-2007, 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vetkiller

Breaking off a S2k = Priceless

at 240 bhp, its still definatly a driver's race

k20beast · 03-28-2007, 04:31 PM

id say around 230 whp. if u went i/h/e reflash, tb, ported manifold... etc
and id still consider that as just lil bolt ons really

jdrumstik · 03-28-2007, 04:33 PM

240 is pretty good increase for bolt ons, but that maybe, prolly more like 230 is my guess if not 220.

Anyways, so their is Intake, Cat Back, Headers, Reflash. What else? We still don't have any cams right? Some one mentioned a Skunk ported manifold? How much would that cost?

Ep3racer954 · 03-28-2007, 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vetkiller

I don't know, I think there is so much potential there. Let's look at it hypothetically:

Injen CAI
DC Race Header
DC Race Exhaust
Hondata IM Gasket & Reflash
Skunk 2 Composite Ported Manifold
Skunk 2 Composite Fuel Rail
Pulley set

I'm betting 240ish bhp = 215 whp

Add on Exedy Clutch kit with Flywheel = Same bhp = 220ish whp

Add on Ingalls Stiffy = hooking up faster & no wheel hop

Breaking off a S2k = Priceless

how about this....

Injen CAI
SSR Race Header
BC Race Exhaust
Hondata IM Gasket & Reflash
Skunk 2 Composite Ported Manifold
or AJP ported IM
Skunk 2 Composite Fuel Rail
Pulley set
skunk2 throttle body
TB gasket/coolent bypass..

so i would say around 230 whp easily.. probably a lil more..

P.S. thats all before cams and stand alone..

03-28-2007, 12:19 AM	#1 (permalink)
F1fletch Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 49 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Most N/A HP Without Engine Mods? No cams, etc. Just bolt on's and ECU. What kind of BHP could you expect 225, 230?

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FG*SQUAD Nick Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Age: 22 Posts: 1,056 iTrader: 1 / 100%	yeah I would say 220 whp would be pushing it... Last edited by FGSQUAD Nick; 03-28-2007 at 04:07 PM.*

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freakvision03 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: San Diego(619) Posts: 633 iTrader: 0 / 0%	im going to say 215 whp.

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03-28-2007, 01:35 AM	#4 (permalink)
Jay Kincannon Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 934 iTrader: 2 / 100%	I assume you are talking about the SI.

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*qwerty :)* VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: redlands-909 Age: 21 Posts: 4,200 kyle iTrader: 8 / 100%	intake mani and reflash allowed? id say ~220

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03-28-2007, 11:54 AM	#8 (permalink)
BlackSi10 Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Birmingham, Alabama Age: 20 Posts: 733 FG Squad Member #350 iTrader: 6 / 100%	since bhp for the si is 197 hp and most people are getting around 173-178whp on stock...that is a 20 hp drop or so. If you are like me and have i/e/h/c/reflash...just basic bolt ons and are pushing around 205-210 whp...i think you would be able to get around 225-230 bhp. Thats my thoughts on it.

03-28-2007, 12:23 PM	#9 (permalink)
Anubis Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Williamsburg, VA Age: 28 Posts: 4,844 iTrader: 6 / 100%	I was thinking around 225 would be max n/a without engine work.

03-28-2007, 12:48 PM	#10 (permalink)
vetkiller Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 528 iTrader: 0 / 0%	I don't know, I think there is so much potential there. Let's look at it hypothetically: Injen CAI DC Race Header DC Race Exhaust Hondata IM Gasket & Reflash Skunk 2 Composite Ported Manifold Skunk 2 Composite Fuel Rail Pulley set I'm betting 240ish bhp = 215 whp Add on Exedy Clutch kit with Flywheel = Same bhp = 220ish whp Add on Ingalls Stiffy = hooking up faster & no wheel hop Breaking off a S2k = Priceless

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The Shishpanik Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: College park, MD Posts: 2,045 Fear the Turtle! iTrader: 1 / 100%	They don't add horsepower, but they cut the losses on horsepower to the wheels (due to a single clutch plate setup and lighter flywheel there is less resistance to the power coming to the wheels).

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Nighthawk07 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Rockledge, Florida Age: 21 Posts: 5,733 Mikey iTrader: 4 / 100%	Nice... this is what I'm aspiring for, since boost is so costly.

03-28-2007, 04:31 PM	#18 (permalink)
k20beast Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: clemson SC Age: 18 Posts: 1,156 zack iTrader: 2 / 100%	id say around 230 whp. if u went i/h/e reflash, tb, ported manifold... etc and id still consider that as just lil bolt ons really

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jdrumstik Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Rexburg ID Age: 20 Posts: 218 James W. Miller iTrader: 0 / 0%	240 is pretty good increase for bolt ons, but that maybe, prolly more like 230 is my guess if not 220. Anyways, so their is Intake, Cat Back, Headers, Reflash. What else? We still don't have any cams right? Some one mentioned a Skunk ported manifold? How much would that cost?