Stock Intake System vs Short Ram Intake

[ProspeedCTR]

Lets get it started and I'll go first.

Okay after seeing all this about the SRI is it really necessary? Are there ANY power gains from a SRI and is it REALLY worth it to dump over $200 just for sound and maybe 1-2 HP? I just don't see how routing the intake air right next to the exhaust header can have any gains over the stock intake box setup that actualy acts as a CAI. This is what Honda designed it to be (a CAI). I think the power gains are psychological. I know I am going to get flamed for this by people that have forked over the money for a SRI but I am just stating the facts. Show me the power gains and i'll become a believer. Maybe this is my way of saying don't waste your money but take it any way you want I am just trying to help others out that are thinking of buying a SRI.

Here are some Dyno results that prove my point on a 2002 RSX Type S

* Pink = AEM SRI

* Blue = Stock Intake System

AEM Short Ram vs Stock Air Box (Normal Operating Temp) HERE

AEM Short Ram vs Stock Air Box (High Operating Temp) HERE

[PR_S14]

AEM Short Ram <--- This is your mistake right there. No offense to those who own it, of course.

[ProspeedCTR]

Originally Posted by PR_S14

AEM Short Ram <--- This is your mistake right there. No offense to those who own it, of course.

Alright what is REALLY the difference between other SRIs because they are all routed the same way except for the K&N Typhoon SRI thanks to the heatshield. You never answered my other question or proved me wrong.

Question 1 = Is a SRI really necessary?
Question 2 = Are there ANY power gains from a SRI?
Question 3 = Why dump over $200 for 1-2HP if that?

New Question = What is wrong with AEM?

[Ruthless909]

Originally Posted by ProspeedCTR

Alright what is REALLY the difference between other SRIs because they are all routed the same way except for the K&N Typhoon SRI thanks to the heatshield.

[PR_S14]

I wasn't trying to prove you wrong. I also do not have any personal experience with the AEM SRI. I'm only quoting what I have read in this forum.

If you continue to read you'll see a few back to back dyno's with Fujita SRI and K&N SRI and you will see gains of around 10 hp or so as opposed to 1-2.

I think it's all in pipe design, pipe size, filter design, and in K&N's case, a heatshield.

I have the Fujita SRI on mine.

[honda06si]

Originally Posted by PR_S14

I wasn't trying to prove you wrong. I also do not have any personal experience with the AEM SRI. I'm only quoting what I have read in this forum.

If you continue to read you'll see a few back to back dyno's with Fujita SRI and K&N SRI and you will see gains of around 10 hp or so as opposed to 1-2.

I think it's all in pipe design, pipe size, filter design, and in K&N's case, a heatshield.

I have the Fujita SRI on mine.

good info. except for the 10 hp part.

[Werkt06Si]

Originally Posted by ProspeedCTR

New Question = What is wrong with AEM?

Alot of things...
most of the time they dont fir correct.
second...most have a problem with rubbing against the frame...causing it to make a huge hole on your piping...

[honda06si]

Originally Posted by Werkt06Si

Alot of things...
most of the time they dont fir correct.
second...most have a problem with rubbing against the frame...causing it to make a huge hole on your piping...

CORRECT!! mine worked fine, no cel's, sounded good, everything was fine. then i took it off and the frame was cutting into the pipe. id say another 5,000 miles and that bitch woulda had a hole in it

[spocheld]

I have an AEM SRI and love it. I noticed a difference a small difference in power, and most importantly it sounds a million times better. SRI's sound a lot better than CAI's, you don't have to worry about sucking up any water and hydrolocking, and they never throw CEL's. That's why I chose a SRI over a CAI.

[2000civic]

I think that people buy short rams not really for performance, they choose it for 1:sound or 2:they are scared to hydo lock with a cold air. I do not remember ever hearing somebody tell me who knew what they were talking about that they bought a short ram for performance. Most had a combo of the 2 reasons I stated above. They ussually say, ''Yea I really wanted the cold air but I did not want to risk the hydro lock so i bought the short ram. Still sounds bad ass tho!'' That is the basic responce I have heard the most from people.

[kevzSi]

I bought mine for the sound. But I noticed i lost a bit of power today in the 90 degree weather...

[qwerty :)]

Originally Posted by ProspeedCTR

cyclogical

is that how you feel when you ride a bike?
or do you mean psychological
i choose a CAI becuase you actually get power.. dont have to worry about hydrolocking unless you think your a sea captin, dont get CELs if you can install it correctly (or didnt buy AEM) and because i can now hide a body under my hood where the stock air box was...

just about the only advantage to a SRI is saving weight! haha

[Qshooter151]

there are pros and cons for both CAI and SRI. i believe both are better than stock. here are a few dyno's with different intakes...

Our day at the dyno

[ProspeedCTR]

Originally Posted by qwerty :)

is that how you feel when you ride a bike?
or do you mean psychological
i choose a CAI becuase you actually get power.. dont have to worry about hydrolocking unless you think your a sea captin, dont get CELs if you can install it correctly (or didnt buy AEM) and because i can now hide a body under my hood where the stock air box was...

just about the only advantage to a SRI is saving weight! haha

Whoops sorry......Changed

LOL @ saving weight!!!!

[cappykd]

I have the K&N and it is a noticable top-end improvement. However when I had only it installed, I lost some throttle response and torque. Then I put on a Greddy EVO 2 with it and gained back the throttle response. After that was the Hondata reflash which gave me back my lowend grunt. This weekend I swapped exhausts with another 8th member he got my EVO2 and I got his Skunk2 Mega Loud R. With the baffle in, it was about the same as the EVO2 with slightly better throttle response. With the baffle out, it revs up much faster and absolutely pulls harder especially between 7000-8200 rpm.

The Member has an Injen CAI and first had a K&N SRI and he thought that the K&N pulled harder up top than his Injen CAI. ??? He also has the Hondata reflash and a test pipe and SSR Header.

[ProspeedCTR]

Originally Posted by Qshooter151

there are pros and cons for both CAI and SRI. i believe both are better than stock. here are a few dyno's with different intakes...

Our day at the dyno

If you look at the dyno numbers on the "AEM vs Stock Intake System" not SRI vs CAI you will see the disadvantages of the SRI. The Stock Intake System will be more constant on the dyno pulls than the SRI due to the hot intake air under the hood.

[Qshooter151]

Originally Posted by ProspeedCTR

If you look at the dyno numbers on the "AEM vs Stock Intake System" not SRI vs CAI you will see the disadvantages of the SRI. The Stock Intake System will be more constant on the dyno pulls than the SRI due to the hot intake air under the hood.

SRI vs. stock intake. understood...

how much hot air can it be sucking with the hood open and a big fan blowing on it?

[FG*SQUAD Nick]

Injen SRI + TB Gaskit = 11hp

[Anubis]

Originally Posted by ProspeedCTR

Alright what is REALLY the difference between other SRIs because they are all routed the same way except for the K&N Typhoon SRI thanks to the heatshield. You never answered my other question or proved me wrong.

Question 1 = Is a SRI really necessary? no
Question 2 = Are there ANY power gains from a SRI? yes, all be it small.
Question 3 = Why dump over $200 for 1-2HP if that? I didn't $150 shipped Fujita

New Question = What is wrong with AEM? known for shitty quality intakes.

Anymore questions?

[Anubis]

Originally Posted by qwerty :)

just about the only advantage to a SRI is saving weight! haha

sound and money. A SRI sounds better than a CAI IMO, and is cheaper.