Intake FAQ

[BTRobertson]

First off, I'm not arguing over which is better because I don't even know what the X intake is. Is it the Edelbrock Performer X intake manifold, or is this another SRI? What is the HP claim from the X that justifies the extra $100.00 cost over the Fujita F5?

All I said was that I liked my Fujita so leave it at that: it's an opinion. I'm sure there's always something better. I could get a turbo and it would leave the SRIs and CAIs in the dust, but that's not the point.

[SiConvert887]

^^ there is another sticky in here title "X intake faq" just read that and you'll see what it is. He's done a lot of dynos and tests on it. I remember seeing one video that had a bone stock FG2 dyno at 169.9hp and then they swapped the intake and it dynoed at 182hp. He doesn't claim anything, he gives us dyno sheet after dyno sheet for us to look at ourselves and conclude that his intake blows the Fujita F5 away. Despite the hp claims, the intake keeps very close to the 12.1:1 AFR that our cars are supposed to have. Fujita IIRC, keeps about a 14:1 AFR which in the long run cannot be good for the engine(although I don't have any technical knowledge on the subject).

To answer your question, personally, I think his intake EASILY justifies the $300 price tag. Remember, he uses OEM parts, so the cost of parts and shipping is already $235 or something like that.

Hope that helps answer your question!
SiC

[Tom]

Originally Posted by SiConvert887

^^ there is another sticky in here title "X intake faq" just read that and you'll see what it is. He's done a lot of dynos and tests on it. I remember seeing one video that had a bone stock FG2 dyno at 169.9hp and then they swapped the intake and it dynoed at 182hp. He doesn't claim anything, he gives us dyno sheet after dyno sheet for us to look at ourselves and conclude that his intake blows the Fujita F5 away. Despite the hp claims, the intake keeps very close to the 12.1:1 AFR that our cars are supposed to have. Fujita IIRC, keeps about a 14:1 AFR which in the long run cannot be good for the engine(although I don't have any technical knowledge on the subject).

To answer your question, personally, I think his intake EASILY justifies the $300 price tag. Remember, he uses OEM parts, so the cost of parts and shipping is already $235 or something like that.

Hope that helps answer your question!
SiC

actually cost of the oe parts are alot less then that, 07-08 cr-v tube is $20.71 at retail list, and the upper air filter housing is $24.14 at retail list, so that is only $44.84 plus tax maybe, rest my guess is for research and development.

[JoePa]

dyno numbers not not equal real world numbers

Last time I checked you dont run with your hood open blowing room temp air into your engine bay.

[Tom]

Originally Posted by JoePa

dyno numbers not not equal real world numbers

Last time I checked you dont run with your hood open blowing room temp air into your engine bay.

no, but there are some idiots that run with no hood period, can't say that i have, but i have seen it done.

[BTRobertson]

I can't disagree with the facts on the X intake, but I know that the Fujita did a heck of a job on my car for $200.00. I don't care about much else.

[maxer]

Originally Posted by SiConvert887

^^ there is another sticky in here title "X intake faq" just read that and you'll see what it is. He's done a lot of dynos and tests on it. I remember seeing one video that had a bone stock FG2 dyno at 169.9hp and then they swapped the intake and it dynoed at 182hp. He doesn't claim anything, he gives us dyno sheet after dyno sheet for us to look at ourselves and conclude that his intake blows the Fujita F5 away. Despite the hp claims, the intake keeps very close to the 12.1:1 AFR that our cars are supposed to have. Fujita IIRC, keeps about a 14:1 AFR which in the long run cannot be good for the engine(although I don't have any technical knowledge on the subject).

To answer your question, personally, I think his intake EASILY justifies the $300 price tag. Remember, he uses OEM parts, so the cost of parts and shipping is already $235 or something like that.

Hope that helps answer your question!
SiC

nice sales pitch champ

[OweNsi]

so SRI or CAI
Injen or Fujita or AEM ?
haha
I live in Maryland.. it rains but never floods.
HELP ME!

[BTRobertson]

Originally Posted by OweNsi

so SRI or CAI
Injen or Fujita or AEM ?
haha
I live in Maryland.. it rains but never floods.
HELP ME!

It's a simple matter of what's important to you versus cost. SRI and CAIs each have their pros and cons, it's just a matter of what you believe is best for your Civic. I went with an F5 SRI and it made a very distinctive difference in both power and sound. I can't comment on other brands, I did my research and felt the F5 was the best bang for the buck, but that might not work for you or others. There's also this X intake talk going around that you may want to include in your research...I believe it's an SRI.

Ultimately, the SRI will be subject to heat soak because it sits up in the engine compartment. On a hot summer day when your engine is hot, you probably will feel a loss of power big time. But there's no chance of water freeze or whatever they call it when water enters your intake and gets into the engine. With a CAI, you risk that, but usually ONLY if you submerge the damned thing. lol

Also, the CAIs are much harder to install if you're a hapless car tech-weenie like me. ;-) You have to pull bumpers off, cut pieces potentially to make it fit, etc. That's a huge draw to the SRI in my book simply for the installation factor, but again, this is your choice to make.

[HondaFREAK]

if you want the Cold air from a CAI and the simplicity of install from an SRI the best thing besides X's intake is the K&N typhoon intake. It's a SRCAI. it places the filter inside the engine bay, and uses the stock snorkel to draw cold air in. best of both worlds if you ask me. Cold Air, no worries about hydrolock, more air flow, better sound, and a heat shield to ward off the dreaded heat soak.

[OweNsi]

i might go for the SRI fujita

[BTRobertson]

Yeah, it's not just about the filter, HondaFreak. The plumbing also needs to be less restrictive, which the stock piping is for sure. Replacing the filter in the air box and the bumper only does half the job of increasing power and everything else. I have the stock plumbing at my office at work, and all of it is very restrictive rubber with bends and folds that make air flow tough.

[adoBoy619]

I have a Injen CAI. Do I need to use an Injen Filter or can I replace it with a different brand?... Probably a no brainer, but thought I'd ask.

[sinirgi]

^^yep. just make sure the filter's inner diameter is the same as the piping's outer diameter. most filters attach the same way.

[remz857]

yay Injen CIA's!!!!!! go with them, or password jdm's carbon fiber intake selection

[adoBoy619]

Originally Posted by sinirgi

^^yep. just make sure the filter's inner diameter is the same as the piping's outer diameter. most filters attach the same way.

But if i go with Injen filter on procivic.com, i can choose any of the inlet diameters...right? Thanks

[HondaFREAK]

Originally Posted by BTRobertson

Yeah, it's not just about the filter, HondaFreak. The plumbing also needs to be less restrictive, which the stock piping is for sure. Replacing the filter in the air box and the bumper only does half the job of increasing power and everything else. I have the stock plumbing at my office at work, and all of it is very restrictive rubber with bends and folds that make air flow tough.

you make a very good point. if you combined elements from the SRI and CAI then it would sell like hot cakes. may have to design an image

[06hypecivic]

i have an aem sri, will this cause problems for my engine in the summer? and will a cold air cause problems in the summer? cuz it gets hot as hell in sacramento

[BTRobertson]

Originally Posted by HondaFREAK

you make a very good point. if you combined elements from the SRI and CAI then it would sell like hot cakes. may have to design an image

That's an even better point. I was actually wondering why no one has designed an intake system combining BOTH the CAI and SRI because that's technically what's in the stock system. There's an engine compartment air box plus the air box in the bumper, so you have a Y connection. Why not do that with a high flow intake? Is there a danger there or would it simply be too expensive? Figure $250 for the average CAI and about $200 for an SRI = $450-$500 for a combo system. Would it yield better results? Would it pull more from one than the other since they're both high flow or would it combine the cold CAI air with the hot SRI air to make an average LOWER (i.e. cooler) temp overall? Math geniuses, get to work!

[BTRobertson]

Originally Posted by 06hypecivic

i have an aem sri, will this cause problems for my engine in the summer? and will a cold air cause problems in the summer? cuz it gets hot as hell in sacramento

I'm almost certain the Honda computer will change the AFR (air to fuel ratio) depending on the air temperature and quality, but I'm not sure.