stock air box is going back on...

[NoBottleJustThrottle]

my point exactly

[rippars]

Originally Posted by taejinah

Why do people whine so much about hydrolock? Just don't drive through a fuken massive puddle, simple.

not worried about hydrolock... worried about when i bring it into the dealer for something minor and they note down that i do/did have a cai and then void the warranty if i ever have to bring in the car for anything that has gone worng with the engine under warranty. and to begin with i have never said im taking the cai off due to the fear of hydrolock once in this thread.

[RedSIinPA]

Originally Posted by taejinah

Why do people whine so much about hydrolock? Just don't drive through a fuken massive puddle, simple.

this isn't about simply hydrolock. depending on where you are and what your experience has been with dealerships (such as how combative they can be w/ repairs under warranty), some feel that 5-8HP and a cooler sound isn't worth battling and arguing with the dealership about should any engine troubles pop up.

I tend to fall into that school of thought...on most days :rolleyes: . for some of us, the SI is a great car but it's not worth the strife of pissing with the dealer. we want to KNOW that if an engine problem pops up, we can take it to the dealer w/o disassembling the intake and remounting the stock one. And we want to know we're not being "written up" when we take it in for an oil change. And we want to know the repairs are paid for under warranty. I bought this car because I wanted something reliable and worry free, mainly because I had a maintenance nightmare on my hands with the last car, and I think the SI in completely stock form is a versatile, fun, and reliable car. I TOLD myself I didn't need to mod this car. And on more days than not, I am not going to do anything under the hood. wheels, springs, shift knob, maybe. there are people on this board that do feel this way and it's probably past experience, the need for less stress in their lives, and being happy with what they have out-of-the-box.

[DSMKLR]

i sold my 05 Gt to my parents a few months back. Since they took it over my dad has added a Novi Supercharger, different cams and afr heads, the car is putting down about 530 hp at the flywheel and went in the other day for warranty work on 02 sensor stuff. the ford dealer installed all of the aftermarket equipment and will vouch for the quailty of the install. They said that they DO have to prove that the default is directly related to the modded parts to decline warranty, but they also said they would cover up the fact that it is modded, because any dealer is stupid to refuse any warranty work because it is the best paying work that they get...

[06SI-VTEC]

no problems with mine luv that growllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll 6k here i come....i-vtec.

k-pro will kickin at about 4500

[whitecivicsi]

I asked my dealership what if I install a CAI, Exhaust, New suspension (lowering car) would It void my warrenty and they said no.

As long as the part I put in doesn't mess with the OEM part that is needed warranty work on or the part you replace. You're safe. Hope this helps.

[tcador]

Originally Posted by whitecivicsi

I asked my dealership what if I install a CAI, Exhaust, New suspension (lowering car) would It void my warrenty and they said no.

As long as the part I put in doesn't mess with the OEM part that is needed warranty work on or the part you replace. You're safe. Hope this helps.

That's not a uniform response from a dealer.

[whitecivicsi]

Originally Posted by tcador

That's not a uniform response from a dealer.

Well, I know what they said bud. If you don't believe me then oh well. I guess only time will tell and lets hope I don't ever have any problems with my car. hehe

[tcador]

Originally Posted by whitecivicsi

Well, I know what they said bud. If you don't believe me then oh well. I guess only time will tell and lets hope I don't ever have any problems with my car. hehe

I'm not doubting they told you that, but every dealer is different. If this guys dealer is going to give him a hard time, then he might as well go back to stock.

[TreeFrog]

Originally Posted by whitecivicsi

I asked my dealership what if I install a CAI, Exhaust, New suspension (lowering car) would It void my warrenty and they said no.

As long as the part I put in doesn't mess with the OEM part that is needed warranty work on or the part you replace. You're safe. Hope this helps.

yes and this is the LAW

[RedSIinPA]

Originally Posted by TreeFrog

yes and this is the LAW

yes and this doesn't mean it's a free pass for hassle free dealings.

there's another LAW that protects homebuyers from the seller of a house lying on the seller's property disclosure. so the guy who sold me my house lied and said the basement doesn't leak. well, it does. so because it's the LAW to not lie, means nothing. it means I have a 12 month old headache, an attorney, and a wet basement still, and there's no guarantees. I have to "prove" he knowingly lied. It takes time, and dedication, and a massive amount of energy to keep going with that. If a dealer wanted to argue that your engine problems came from an AEM intake, and refused to pay for the work up front, you'd have to pay for it out of pocket in the meantime or you wouldn't have a car. Then you get to experience the joys of settlement or litigation.

I realize I'm looking at the worst case scenario with the car thing. But it's possible. Law or no law, it's a pain in the ass to get into a dispute over money especially when you're talking about your car.

[That_Si_Guy]

This topic has been talked about to DEATH. A dealer cannot void your warranty because you have an intake, unless the problem was caused by the intake. For example, if your radiator explodes and it needs to be replaced, they cant just say "Oh you have an intake, your warranty is voided sorry." You see there is this little thing called the Magnussen-Moss Act http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnussen-Moss_Act that protects us from dealers like that. If they say theyre going to void your warranty then you tell them youre taking them to court for violating the law, you'll see how quickly they change their tune.

[catchx34]

arent aftermarket parts supposed to meet oem specifications?

[CaliGuy]

3 words: Small Claims Court...that is if the dealer is giving you shit...it is very easy...you just show up and give your sode of the story and they give theirs...For exmaple...heres a scenario: you have a cai and the motor dies (insert whatever malfunction you want). the dealer tells you you cai caused it. Well, now you have a non-running car and you need it fixed wither way...so you take it to your local repair shop and tell them to diagnose and fix the prob and that you want in writing whatever the prob was. so they fix the car and whatever the prob was was clearly not caused by the cai and you spent say 3k to fix it or whatever...you file small claims against the deler for breach of contract. you go to court and present whatever the real prob was (which your mechanic prepared for you). The deler tells the judge the cai caused it...your evidence proves otherwise...you win...all is good.

FYI in small claims neither party can be represented by an atty at the hearing (makes small claims very cheap and easy and here in Cali you can sue for up to 7.5k...

[That_Si_Guy]

Originally Posted by CaliGuy

3 words: Small Claims Court...that is if the dealer is giving you shit...it is very easy...you just show up and give your sode of the story and they give theirs...For exmaple...heres a scenario: you have a cai and the motor dies (insert whatever malfunction you want). the dealer tells you you cai caused it. Well, now you have a non-running car and you need it fixed wither way...so you take it to your local repair shop and tell them to diagnose and fix the prob and that you want in writing whatever the prob was. so they fix the car and whatever the prob was was clearly not caused by the cai and you spent say 3k to fix it or whatever...you file small claims against the deler for breach of contract. you go to court and present whatever the real prob was (which your mechanic prepared for you). The deler tells the judge the cai caused it...your evidence proves otherwise...you win...all is good.

FYI in small claims neither party can be represented by an atty at the hearing (makes small claims very cheap and easy and here in Cali you can sue for up to 7.5k...

Excellent idea

[RedSIinPA]

Originally Posted by CaliGuy

FYI in small claims neither party can be represented by an atty at the hearing (makes small claims very cheap and easy and here in Cali you can sue for up to 7.5k...

My attorney is representing me in my small claim and the dollar limit varies from state to state, possibly even jurisdiction to jurisdiction. Where I am my limit is 8K. Just as an FYI, I don't know who here has been to small claims court, but it can take a substantial amount of time to schedule the hearing, get the paperwork completed, etc.

[CaliGuy]

Originally Posted by RedSIinPA

My attorney is representing me in my small claim and the dollar limit varies from state to state, possibly even jurisdiction to jurisdiction. Where I am my limit is 8K. Just as an FYI, I don't know who here has been to small claims court, but it can take a substantial amount of time to schedule the hearing, get the paperwork completed, etc.

Well, I obviously am in cali and I have to attend small claims for work often and here it is very easy (compared to regular court anyway) and you cannot have an atty rep you at the hearing here....You are correct, this stuff varies from jurisdiction to jurisdiction...:)

[rippars]

took it off today... not going to do any more mods to it right now, i will later down the road tho. im looking to get 5th or 6th gen. civic or 3rd gen. integra to mod, but i would really want a 91 - 93 mr2 turbo but its hard to find a decent one, and there out of my price range.

[Mech]

good luck with your new car search!

[DSchrag]

Originally Posted by rippars

yea i bet i would become easier if you do it often. but i do recall skittles talking about a drop in filter from spoon but im not sure how much better that would be compare to a plain old regular filter... anyone?

I, personally, wouldn't mark the K&N drop-in as a decent alternative to the CAI. Your gains in both hp and sound are substantially less than that of an intake, so much so that you really can only feel a bit more pull in the midrange, if that.

This being said, the drop-in is a good idea to do regardless. All the info is in the following threads:

EX K&N drop in & SI axle back muffler VIDS
06 EX + K&N Filter?