Udumkid does it!, 13's NA, no reflash, no spray, no cams!!! - Page 3

inyong1988 · 03-23-2008, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by I Vtec, do you?

I don't really consider any of your mods anything more than minor except the RH, which would be a moderate mod to me. Putting an intake on your car isn't all that wild imo. Good numbers, I just don't see 13s out of the SI. 13s is somewhat fast, and the SI doesn't feel somewhat fast to me. Maybe a RH really opens it up

***nbilyue*** · 03-23-2008, 11:00 PM

I really don't see the reflash making that big of a difference, Im only not in vtec for one gear. The drag radials are the big helper with these runs. I mean I ran 14.5 with i/rh and just the spare out on stock Michelins. You had the backseat out too which saved probably at least 50 lbs, I'm not sure if you have a FG or FA, if FG then you are at least 110lbs lighter than me. I just feel like with drag radials I could run times very close to these. I'm not saying they aren't great times, just people are comparing these runs to runs on stock tires or better street tires.

udumkid · 03-23-2008, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by I Vtec, do you?

I don't really consider any of your mods anything more than minor except the RH, which would be a moderate mod to me. Putting an intake on your car isn't all that wild imo. Good numbers, I just don't see 13s out of the SI. 13s is somewhat fast, and the SI doesn't feel somewhat fast to me. Maybe a RH really opens it up

when you said minor mods I thought you meant of me having an intake or intake and exhaust.... The car has dynoed well over 205WHP Sae corrected on a dyno jet, there was a meet last sunday at the track that plenty of members saw how different my car pulled compare to that of a person w/ just intake and exhaust which they were runnig 14.9@ 97mph to my 14.0@102mph...so maybe the RH did made that much of a difference.. Sorry that you feel that your car is not fast, maybe a couple of mods might change your mind....

udumkid · 03-23-2008, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by nbilyue

I really don't see the reflash making that big of a difference, Im only not in vtec for one gear. The drag radials are the big helper with these runs.

Correct... the et tells you how good you got off the line... the 1/4 mph tells you how fast the car is.

so what was you MPH in the 1/4??

Tell you what pay for my gas and entrance on the richmond meet at the track...if you do, I will let you use the drag radials..

hawjdude · 03-23-2008, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by I Vtec, do you?

I don't really consider any of your mods anything more than minor except the RH, which would be a moderate mod to me. Putting an intake on your car isn't all that wild imo. Good numbers, I just don't see 13s out of the SI. 13s is somewhat fast, and the SI doesn't feel somewhat fast to me. Maybe a RH really opens it up

raceheader does wonders for a motor. it essentially is the only mod that when done, you can feel some hp gains (dyno proves this as well). to run high 13s all motor is fast but not impossible, rsx and other k20 cars w/ basic bolt ons, have been doing this for the longest time (in addition, im sure there are a couple SI guys doing it out there as well).

hawjdude · 03-24-2008, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by udumkid

wheel hop was at a minimum due to the drag radials + I rode the clutch out.

to the op, did you try to launch at the limiter ( 5500rpm) at all to see if you could get any better times??? also, how far did you take first gear (redline)? did you have to ride first gear in redline a bit before you could get full traction ( as you can see, i haven't taken my car to the drags yet, only street experience)??

Nexx · 03-24-2008, 12:04 AM

I'm glad the DCRH is doing so well with the smaller collector. My buddies BCRH equipped SI feels no different from my DCRH yet he swears the extra .6" or however much bigger the BCRH is, will pulverize my car at high end. Whether the extra $400 for the BCRH is worth it or not, in terms of price vs performance, there is no doubt that the DCRH is the best bang for the buck header out there for a basic bolt-on setup.

The only thing that's been bothering me is the gas smell. Driving me crazy.

***bizzybearfigiblue*** · 03-24-2008, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Nexx

I'm glad the DCRH is doing so well with the smaller collector. My buddies BCRH equipped SI feels no different from my DCRH yet he swears the extra .6" or however much bigger the BCRH is, will pulverize my car at high end. Whether the extra $400 for the BCRH is worth it or not, in terms of price vs performance, there is no doubt that the DCRH is the best bang for the buck header out there for a basic bolt-on setup.

The only thing that's been bothering me is the gas smell. Driving me crazy.

well maybe with the minimal mods on his car this is true... but it's already proven that the BC makes wayy more than the DC... my friend had his FG2 supercharged... his dyno with DC = almost 260whp... now with BC = 275whp+ same everything but the header...

i'd say out of the OPs whole setup the DC header is hurting him...

hawjdude · 03-24-2008, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by bizzybearfigiblue

well maybe with the minimal mods on his car this is true... but it's already proven that the BC makes wayy more than the DC... my friend had his FG2 supercharged... his dyno with DC = almost 260whp... now with BC = 275whp+ same everything but the header...

i'd say out of the OPs whole setup the DC header is hurting him...

the bolded statment hasn't been proven to my knowledge yet w/ basic bolt on SI's. maybe so for that particular setup (SC) but none i've seen yet w/ NA setups. i agree that w/ more extensive setups (aggressive NA, or SC) that the DC may hinder max power but in terms bang for buck and simple NA setups, DC should be the rh of choice.

***bizzybearfigiblue*** · 03-24-2008, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by hawjdude

the bolded statment hasn't been proven to my knowledge yet w/ basic bolt on SI's. maybe so for that particular setup (SC) but none i've seen yet w/ NA setups. i agree that w/ more extensive setups (aggressive NA, or SC) that the DC may hinder max power but in terms bang for buck and simple NA setups, DC should be the rh of choice.

glad we agree... except for the bang for buck part... b/c i only feel that if i'm gonna put a part on my car i only want to put the best from the beginning... that's my prerogative tho...

the P2R TBS/TBG combo gives the best bang for buck... if u want to be technical...

***Demisedgabe*** · 03-24-2008, 12:28 AM

very good times.

Nexx · 03-24-2008, 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Nexx

....in terms of price vs performance, there is no doubt that the DCRH is the best bang for the buck header out there for a basic bolt-on setup.

:P Just wanted to make sure I wrote the basic bolt-on part the first time around. Obviously the 1.8~1.9" DCRH collector will hamper the system as more high-end mods are added.

SoCal07Si · 03-24-2008, 01:52 AM

real nice times, congrats man

Bboy_Burst · 03-24-2008, 07:21 AM

nice times, you've enter the 13 second boundary. any car that can trap 100mph+ is consider fast in my opinion. once i get my bc header, maybe i can get in the 13s.

20strong · 03-24-2008, 07:52 AM

Whaat type of MPG's do you get on an average tank of gas with you mods?

***nbilyue*** · 03-24-2008, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by udumkid

Correct... the et tells you how good you got off the line... the 1/4 mph tells you how fast the car is.

so what was you MPH in the 1/4??

Tell you what pay for my gas and entrance on the richmond meet at the track...if you do, I will let you use the drag radials..

I'll be S/C by then, but I am excited about the meet and seeing you run. I'll be interested to see how everyone's cars do at Richmond. The best I have run there is a 14.7 @ I think 98 and I am the fastest Si I have seen there. Anubis will tell you it is a horrible track, so I'll be curious to see what others do. Really Rene I am not knocking you, from just reading through the post I felt like a lot of people didn't realize you were on drag radials. I look forwarding to meeting you and am glad my intake is doing better on your car.

adamk20 · 03-24-2008, 11:18 AM

the op's trap speed is really indicative of the power those mods gave you...really good stuff. I am sure it restores some faith in our cars ability to get down the 1320 quickly without spending a fortune. Excellent times

udumkid · 03-24-2008, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by bizzybearfigiblue

well maybe with the minimal mods on his car this is true... but it's already proven that the BC makes wayy more than the DC... my friend had his FG2 supercharged... his dyno with DC = almost 260whp... now with BC = 275whp+ same everything but the header...

i'd say out of the OPs whole setup the DC header is hurting him...

For Na the DCRH is great, for FI...well havent tried it yet..here is a Dyno that you can compare the DC vs BC Raceheader:

WhiteSicivic06 w/BCRH

My Car w/ DCRH

Both cars had the same set up,Dynoed the same day on the same dyno jet dyno. Except that the car w/ the BCRH had NST pulley set..

8yourv8 · 03-24-2008, 07:59 PM

nice #s

caveman74 · 03-24-2008, 08:08 PM

BCRH isnt all that. DC is proven to be just as good and less than half of the price.

03-23-2008, 11:00 PM	#42 (permalink)
*nbilyue* VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 25 Posts: 984 Neal iTrader: 1 / 100%	I really don't see the reflash making that big of a difference, Im only not in vtec for one gear. The drag radials are the big helper with these runs. I mean I ran 14.5 with i/rh and just the spare out on stock Michelins. You had the backseat out too which saved probably at least 50 lbs, I'm not sure if you have a FG or FA, if FG then you are at least 110lbs lighter than me. I just feel like with drag radials I could run times very close to these. I'm not saying they aren't great times, just people are comparing these runs to runs on stock tires or better street tires. Last edited by nbilyue; 03-23-2008 at 11:08 PM.

03-24-2008, 12:04 AM	#47 (permalink)
Nexx Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 226 iTrader: 0 / 0%	I'm glad the DCRH is doing so well with the smaller collector. My buddies BCRH equipped SI feels no different from my DCRH yet he swears the extra .6" or however much bigger the BCRH is, will pulverize my car at high end. Whether the extra $400 for the BCRH is worth it or not, in terms of price vs performance, there is no doubt that the DCRH is the best bang for the buck header out there for a basic bolt-on setup. The only thing that's been bothering me is the gas smell. Driving me crazy. Last edited by bizzybearfigiblue; 03-24-2008 at 12:08 AM.

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*Demisedgabe* Drop Babies not Bombs Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Corpus Christi, Texas Age: 21 Posts: 573 Gabriel iTrader: 2 / 100%	very good times. __________________ My Build-Thread http://www.8thcivic.com/forums/car-b...-build-up.html http://www.myspace.com/demisedgabe5

03-24-2008, 01:52 AM	#53 (permalink)
SoCal07Si Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Whitter, So Cali Age: 21 Posts: 12,174 Just call me Daddy iTrader: 1 / 100%	real nice times, congrats man

03-24-2008, 07:21 AM	#54 (permalink)
Bboy_Burst Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Union City, CA Age: 21 Posts: 596 13.8@103MPH N/A iTrader: 1 / 100%	nice times, you've enter the 13 second boundary. any car that can trap 100mph+ is consider fast in my opinion. once i get my bc header, maybe i can get in the 13s.

03-24-2008, 07:52 AM	#55 (permalink)
20strong Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Desert Posts: 2,378 Marcus iTrader: 0 / 0%	Whaat type of MPG's do you get on an average tank of gas with you mods?

03-24-2008, 11:18 AM	#57 (permalink)
adamk20 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 116 iTrader: 0 / 0%	the op's trap speed is really indicative of the power those mods gave you...really good stuff. I am sure it restores some faith in our cars ability to get down the 1320 quickly without spending a fortune. Excellent times

03-24-2008, 07:59 PM	#59 (permalink)
8yourv8 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Peoria,Arizona Posts: 649 iTrader: 5 / 100%	nice #s

03-24-2008, 08:08 PM	#60 (permalink)
caveman74 Senior Member Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Woodstock, Ga Posts: 2,388 Kevin iTrader: 19 / 100%	BCRH isnt all that. DC is proven to be just as good and less than half of the price.