fg2 vs mugen - Page 2

JZILLA · 02-04-2008, 12:24 AM

you ll win the mugen has to many doors ftl

**Izzy** · 02-04-2008, 12:25 AM

Extra door handles and seams make more aerodynamic drag.

Don't forget to puncture his tires.

Oh, and laugh at his side-view mirrors.

nayilsi · 02-04-2008, 01:15 AM

make sure u get off the line smoothly.....if he takes the lead (by 1 car)..itl take u a little more than 1/4 mile to pass him.

please video the event

Si Speed 317 · 02-04-2008, 01:35 AM

You'll win with even drivers, but don't forget it's not just the few extra horses the exhaust releases in the Mugen Si, but the suspension is a special 'track' setup, but would increase times in a straight line as well.

Ex. Mugen Si with stock FA5 suspension vs. Mugen Si with Mugen Si suspension
assuming equal drivers, equal conditions etc. only difference is suspension, the Mugen Si with the Mugen Si suspension would win.

whos_1st · 02-04-2008, 01:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nayilsi

make sure u get off the line smoothly.....if he takes the lead (by 1 car)..itl take u a little more than 1/4 mile to pass him.

please video the event

Street2uned · 02-04-2008, 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by djdefcon

truthfully, I have a Mugen, and the race should be close.....yes, the Mugen suspension is MUCH better than the regular SI, as I had an 06' SI.....but the Mugen is not that much quicker, if at all....yea its got a catback, lighter wheels and suspension, but the block is the same, so it should be close =D

You paid for that!?

Anyways, it's an axle back.

Street2uned · 02-04-2008, 03:18 AM

Ok...why are we even talking about this!? I can't believe I got sucked into this thread. Just go race the guy and let us know. Jesus.

***djdefcon*** · 02-04-2008, 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Street2uned

You paid for that!?

Anyways, it's an axle back.

Only payin 15$ more a month, I don't mind =D

lionelp · 02-04-2008, 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by azndawei

4 doors are so much sexier. but anyways, you should win. but i would say based on the driver

Not to mention there's more room in the back! Bow chica bow wow!

***Phalanx*** · 02-04-2008, 10:21 AM

It will likely come down to the driver. but exact same driver the FG2 should win

Anubis · 02-04-2008, 12:36 PM

A lowly FG2 in the same sentence has a Mugen......bahh blasphemy I tell you.

NIGHTHAWKSI · 02-04-2008, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Street2uned

You paid for that!?

Anyways, it's an axle back.

actually, it is a cat-back.

but anyway, what a pointless thread. seriously, this is as bad a 07 SI coupe vs. 07 SI sedan thread.

the mugen may have an exhaust, but its also 60 lbs heavier, comes with a full lip kit and spoiler which will probably negate the (maybe) 4hp that the exhaust gained. drivers race. a few hp difference that any car may have will not effect anythign since its all abou the driver aynway. you could beat a 1000hp supra if the driver doesnt know what they are doing.

Si Speed 317 · 02-04-2008, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by NIGHTHAWKSI

actually, it is a cat-back.

but anyway, what a pointless thread. seriously, this is as bad a 07 SI coupe vs. 07 SI sedan thread.

the mugen may have an exhaust, but its also 60 lbs heavier, comes with a full lip kit and spoiler which will probably negate the (maybe) 4hp that the exhaust gained. drivers race. a few hp difference that any car may have will not effect anythign since its all abou the driver aynway. you could beat a 1000hp supra if the driver doesnt know what they are doing.

Mugen GP's are lighter than stock Si wheels too IIRC

Anubis · 02-04-2008, 01:02 PM

^ they are wihtout a doubt but will that make a difference at the end of the day......probably not.

NIGHTHAWKSI · 02-04-2008, 01:03 PM

going in a straight line, a 4lb difference at each corner will not make a big difference, if at all.

***djdefcon*** · 02-04-2008, 02:19 PM

guys, I have a Mugen....it is a SI vs SI race; a drivers race now....not much difference in speed

ezcivic type r · 02-04-2008, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djdefcon

guys, I have a Mugen....it is a SI vs SI race; a drivers race now....not much difference in speed

true that. thats all this race is si vs si. now take into effect that you have a raceheader over him and extra ponies the CAI puts out, its gonna be a drivers race. go race him and find out. stop the nonsense about the car weighing more because its not enough to really make a difference. there could be a 150lb guy in the Mugen and a 210lb guy in the coupe. make sense.

isunelan · 02-04-2008, 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NIGHTHAWKSI

going in a straight line, a 4lb difference at each corner will not make a big difference, if at all.

HFP 16".................18 lbs
EX Stock 16"..........20 lbs
HFP 17".................20 lbs
Si stock 17"...........23 lbs
HFP 18".................23 lbs
Mugen 18"..............16.5-17 lbs

23lbs - 17lbs = 6lbs x 4 = 24lbs and the unsprong weight thing makes it alot more then just 24 lbs so that should make up the 50lbs of the mugen sedan?

and maybe im wrong

dc5jimbo · 02-04-2008, 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by isunelan

HFP 16".................18 lbs
EX Stock 16"..........20 lbs
HFP 17".................20 lbs
Si stock 17"...........23 lbs
HFP 18".................23 lbs
Mugen 18"..............16.5-17 lbs

23lbs - 17lbs = 6lbs x 4 = 24lbs and the unsprong weight thing makes it alot more then just 24 lbs so that should make up the 50lbs of the mugen sedan?

and maybe im wrong

math

NIGHTHAWKSI · 02-05-2008, 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by isunelan

HFP 16".................18 lbs
EX Stock 16"..........20 lbs
HFP 17".................20 lbs
Si stock 17"...........23 lbs
HFP 18".................23 lbs
Mugen 18"..............16.5-17 lbs

23lbs - 17lbs = 6lbs x 4 = 24lbs and the unsprong weight thing makes it alot more then just 24 lbs so that should make up the 50lbs of the mugen sedan?

and maybe im wrong

o0o0o, didnt know the exact specs. i thought the gps were 17lbs and the stock were 21.

yea, that would make a nice difference, going around a road course. not so much in a 1/4 mile. and the 24 unsprung can easily be negated by the weight of a driver.

i iwsh this thread would go away

/unsubscribed

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Anubis Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Williamsburg, VA Age: 28 Posts: 4,598 iTrader: 6 / 100%	^ they are wihtout a doubt but will that make a difference at the end of the day......probably not.

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