WTF: Some1 please explain to me how I lost....

[CivicKid19]

ME:I drive a 07 2dr. EX A/T w/ AEM CAI, NST Pulleys(whole kit), Megan Racing Downpipe, GReddy Ti-C and BE*RS V Bar, Lowered on S techs and SPC camber kit front n back.....

Opponent:
BONE STOCK...4 dr 07 LX M/T!!!!

Outcome....I LOST....HOW THE F*** did this happen and why?

[osohormiguerro]

automatic and manual. i doubt all your mods can amount to being able to shift at desired rpms like yur friend.

[Chase]

Should have got an Si????

Dude you have the Auto Transmission,and you are asking how you lost?? LMAO, Best thread ever!

[fox]

Originally Posted by osohormiguerro

automatic and manual. i doubt all your mods can amount to being able to shift at desired rpms like yur friend.

your car should out-perform his if transmissions were same.
i would guess something on the sort of timing off the line.

and no need to flame.

[CivicKid19]

my daily driving distance are too far and insanse miami traffic all day...so manual was out of the question and when i thought of getting an SI they was a 3month waiting list and dealer watd 3k to get my name on list and i needed a car...

[strutking]

auto ftl

[CivicKid19]

Originally Posted by strutking

auto ftl

ya i kno tell me about it...im doing research and the numbers now...i gotta talk my parents into letting me trade in my car n get an SI im sick of this lol...id rather invest my money into sumthing thats actually gonna move and be worth it...but im guessing im gonna have to return my car to stock and part out the parts and re-install the stock parts and sell parts on here?

[Axian]

Originally Posted by CivicKid19

ME:I drive a 07 2dr. EX A/T w/ AEM CAI, NST Pulleys(whole kit), Megan Racing Downpipe, GReddy Ti-C and BE*RS V Bar, Lowered on S techs and SPC camber kit front n back.....

Opponent:
BONE STOCK...4 dr 07 LX M/T!!!!

Outcome....I LOST....HOW THE F*** did this happen and why?

And that is why you lose...

Plus your car is much heavier than his.

[Truplatano]

how could his car be heavier, because the tranny is auto?.....or because of the add ons?

[lightlypurified]

wow all those mods and he lost to a manual now my whole aspect of mods on auto are useless.

[lightlypurified]

if ur just gonna get an si for racing dont get an si ur r18 civic saves u money on insurance and gas double think before u get an si i wanted an si so bad back then now its like whatever just keep my civic till i get my next car.

[choklit]

Originally Posted by lightlypurified

if ur just gonna get an si for racing dont get an si ur r18 civic saves u money on insurance and gas double think before u get an si i wanted an si so bad back then now its like whatever just keep my civic till i get my next car.

same goes for me until i get my STI

[e60.deluxe]

Simple, automatics gearing is more designed for feul economy:

Originally Posted by honda website

5-Speed Manual Transmission Gear Ratios: 1st: 3.143, 2nd: 1.870, 3rd: 1.235, 4th: 0.949, 5th: 0.727, Reverse: 3.308, Final Drive: 4.294

Compact 5-Speed Automatic Transmission Gear Ratios: 1st: 2.666, 2nd: 1.534, 3rd: 1.022, 4th: 0.721, 5th: 0.525, Reverse: 1.956, Final Drive: 4.437

you can see by the ratios for each gear the manual is capable of putting down roughly 15% more torque to the wheels.

now add the fact that autos rob more power and shift slower and there you have it.

[CivicKid19]

I wanted the Si from day one...I'd rather invest money into the Si instead of the R18...well see what happens? But yes my car is heavier due to the add ons! It's an EX

[osohormiguerro]

Originally Posted by CivicKid19

ya i kno tell me about it...im doing research and the numbers now...i gotta talk my parents into letting me trade in my car n get an SI im sick of this lol...id rather invest my money into sumthing thats actually gonna move and be worth it...but im guessing im gonna have to return my car to stock and part out the parts and re-install the stock parts and sell parts on here?

yeah dude. you should highly consider the SI if you want something more sporty.

i drive 60 miles in somewhat horrible LA traffic all day. im 20, so i obviously cannot afford a toy car and a daily driver.

you gotta choose one or the other bro. if you're too lazy to be clutching all the time, stick with the EX, it's a great car. if you want performance, get the SI. i sacrificed my comfort for performance.

[CiViCDooD]

If all ur going to do is race then get the SI, but i have an ex auto myself and even though it has less performance, its still fun to ride and better on fuel. Thats my .02

[Izzy]

Originally Posted by osohormiguerro

yeah dude. you should highly consider the SI if you want something more sporty.

i drive 60 miles in somewhat horrible LA traffic all day. im 20, so i obviously cannot afford a toy car and a daily driver.

you gotta choose one or the other bro. if you're too lazy to be clutching all the time, stick with the EX, it's a great car. if you want performance, get the SI. i sacrificed my comfort for performance.

The 101 is fuxxor at any time, seriously. I'd rather kick myself in the head with a sword than go through that every day.

[CivicKid19]

ehh decided to keep my Ex until i get my next car i put gas enough times a week dnt wanna double up n ya its true im chilln with the car

[Civic Pride]

It suck to hear that you lost, i have never been inside an auto R18 so am not sure how slow they are, i drive a coupe in Manual.

there is a 2 second difference from 0-60 in the Auto vs the Manual

So even with those mods that you have am sure you can't gain 2 seconds.

[CivicKid19]

ya kinda sux...parents convinced me into looking into a 350Z or S2000 used obviously but hey well see what hppns?