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**Gonzo** · 03-26-2008, 04:31 PM

Will give them a whirl.

**Gonzo** · 03-27-2008, 01:56 PM

Awesome...

Vulcan's website says only two tires in both warehouses. Emailed Vulcan, asked when they were getting tires in.

Went to Edge Racing. Ordered the Tires.

Vulcan replies. Says they're getting more in Monday in their UT warehouse. Went to their site. Shipping from UT is twice their PA warehouse, over $80. Emailed them and asked when they were getting them in PA.

Didn't get a confirmation email email from Edge Racing. Called them this morning. Turns out they don't have any in stock. "Website should have said that. More coming in a week or two."

Vulcan replies. Says "Sorry, you did not specify your location so I assumed you were located in a state near UT as we had stock in our PA location yesterday." But not according to your website, which said both locations had two each...

Why can't Tire Rack just carry Falkens?

piknockout · 03-27-2008, 04:47 PM

Yeah, I've always wondered why they don't. Check out Discount Tire Direct yet?

hugeevilrobot · 03-28-2008, 09:58 AM

Hey, been reading here for a little bit (you got me to come back gonzo, i was in the blue sedan at the level 1 school) and just ordered up my new wheels and tires, and figured I would get a bit better alignment done. I remember seeing specs in one of the threads on this forum, and was wondering if anyone could link me or post some specs for GS, only mod at all being the new wheels and tires.

How was the level 2 school Gonzo, got that next weekend and I'm stoked

**Gonzo** · 03-28-2008, 10:47 AM

Yeah dude I definitely remember, glad to have ya back. :)

Alignment specs, don't have a link right now but I can guarantee they were posted by HighRev1, he is our local Si owning autocross guru, and one of our general autocross gurus.

For your car my guess is you will want to have the shop put maximum camber possible on stock hardware is you're running GS. We can ask HighRev what he thinks should be done to a GS car.

Level two was awesome. It was wet out which added to the experience.

We did figure 8's to practice throttle streer (though I learned the most about throttle steer later in the day) and then a slalom heavy course. I killed a few cones and sideswiped one at one point. Actually left a dent in the side under the door.

My car was too tail happy, probably due to my aftermarket rear sway which will be coming off for now.

Last part of the day we did the same course as level 1. The instructors got a chance to give us lots of feedback. Everyone was helpful. I am bad with names but my main in car instructors for the first and second day were great. The shorter guy named Greg was awesome because he would watch every run and he kept convincing me to push my car faster when I was holding back. Bryan, the main guy, drove once and rode along once. Man he is fast... He also has awesome instruction. If you don't mind someone giving instruction non stop to you the whole run then you can learn a ton from him. He gives a lot of instruction constantly and gives it well.

The toughest part for me was going downhill out of the second slalom toward that hairpin turn. Exiting the slalom was the tricky part. I was getting faster and faster through the slalom thanks to encouragement (or harassment

) by Greg. Unfortunately when you come out of it you are really fast. I kept lifting coming out of the slalom. If you lift too much the rear end gets light and my car wanted to spin. Stay in the throttle too much and the car will understeer into the outside cone. Not that I was doing it poorly but it was super tricky to nail perfectly but man was it a good learning experience on understeer vs oversteer in a FWD car.

I really had the idea of hammering the throttle to prevent of a spin ingrained in me.

You're gonna have a blast!

hugeevilrobot · 03-28-2008, 10:54 AM

Yeah, Brian is really, really fast, I remember him getting into the low-mid 33's on the L1 school, a fair bit faster than the elise was on my stock wheels/tires. He seemed optimistic about the Si in GS, but looking at the nats results and seeing some of the feedback in this thread just confirmed the whole "spec mini s" thing. 30+ cars and 2 of them werent minis... luckily I'm nowhere near that level.

**Gonzo** · 03-28-2008, 11:03 AM

Yeah it probably will be pretty good in GS. I wish our cars could be in STS, damn that LSD! Actually Bryan said he really liked the LSD in our two cars so it definitely is nice, just class prohibitive.

Are you planning to make a lot of events this season? I'm going to try to hit all of them, we'll see if that pans out but I should hopefully make almost all.

I want to see Bryan's kid drive. He's been racing for over 5 years! They pulled the karts out at the end of the first day but it was clear they were going to be a while until they drove. I asked some of the other drivers who knew him, said he was extremely fast and has a lot of talent, plus he has a dad who is so skilled and good at instruction.

My dad was talking to the kid at one point. He said he was watching me drive and could see improvement and that I seemed to be learning pretty fast. From a 10 year old!! He's going pro one day...

hugeevilrobot · 03-28-2008, 11:19 AM

Yeah, I'd love to get out there for as many of the events as I can, I know I need seat time more than anything else right now. Going to try to make all the events this year, as well as some nearby, though I'm having a hard time finding much else withing a few hours of nova. I know they run a decent number of events up in Hershey, PA, and I can hit a lot of the Northern NJ events because I can spend the night at my parents place in DE, no way im leaving at 2-3 AM to make that 6 hr drive. Does anyone else run events within a few hours of DC?

**Gonzo** · 03-28-2008, 11:25 AM

I'm in Richmond, that's under two hours south of D.C. with little to no traffic.

I think we got up around 5am to make Level 1 event.

**Gonzo** · 03-28-2008, 01:02 PM

I may try Discount Tire if JLB is more and/or they don't have my wheels in stock.

hugeevilrobot · 03-28-2008, 01:12 PM

Are the re-01r's that much more expensive? I've heard they are significantly better overall, especially in the wet, and last longer if you are running them for more than just events. My roomate (the guy at the L1 school in the white wrx) is running them in STX, as am I in GS. Nice to get the through the tire rack as well since they do a lot with SCCA and always have amazing turnaround and service in my experience.

**Gonzo** · 03-28-2008, 01:52 PM

RE-01R: $712 @ Tirerack
RT-615: $444 @ Edge Racing ($460 @ Vulcan)

**Gonzo** · 03-28-2008, 09:19 PM

Camber goodies were sent Wednesday from Corsport.

Wheels from JLB went out today.

Tires from Discount Tire Direct will go out Monday.

Oh boy.

The package from Corsport has an estimated delivery set tomorrow. I can't imagine they did Saturday delivery, but...?

***Highrev1*** · 03-29-2008, 08:08 PM

Did a Test and Tune today at NNJR!!

Had Mario, Honda93 Co-Drive with me in my S2000

I just got it back Friday after a 1.5 year loan to my brother, so it was like a new car to me..Waiver of why I sucked out of the way...

I sucked a$$ I ran one event last year and that was in Tony's car. So I have been out of practice. Tony Owned me.....I sucked it up today...Went back to my old habits

Hopefully next week I will "slow down to go fast" although overdriving the S2K is FUN

...Thanks Tony...

Great read as to why I say "slow down to go fast"

Pobst Position: My Epiphany; RandyPobst.com

**Gonzo** · 03-29-2008, 09:07 PM

For whatever reason my rear arms didn't arrive today, just the front bolts. Waiting on a response from Corsport.

tpofa-07LX · 03-29-2008, 10:50 PM

Going autocrossing my first time tomorrow!! I cant wait.

**Gonzo** · 03-29-2008, 10:52 PM

w00t! Have fun man! Make sure you get plenty of sleep tonight. Though even if you don't you'll still be wired.

tpofa-07LX · 03-30-2008, 05:55 PM

Well it was a blast. They put me in novice class instead of HS because of my first time running. There were 57 competitors and I got to run 6 times

. I will make a thread with some pictures later.

Oh yeah, posted a faster time than an evo and an sti that were also in novice class

, got the first place trophy for novice.

**Gonzo** · 03-30-2008, 07:24 PM

Now, that's what I'm talking about!

First place out of 57. You should definitely be proud of that!

ImBiginKorea · 03-30-2008, 07:53 PM

Today was the first auto-x of the season. I was running completely stock on the pilot allseasons

. Me and a mugen si took top two spots in g stock.

My runs were 52.xx, 47.9, 46.9 and 46.6 The mugen was running 225/45 or 40/17 re-01's and he was in the 42's.

Over all it was a fun time and I can't wait tell the azenis get here later for the rest of the season.

--Korea

03-27-2008, 01:56 PM	#742 (permalink)
Gonzo You're doing it wrong!! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 21 Posts: 5,467 iTrader: 5 / 100%	Awesome... Vulcan's website says only two tires in both warehouses. Emailed Vulcan, asked when they were getting tires in. Went to Edge Racing. Ordered the Tires. Vulcan replies. Says they're getting more in Monday in their UT warehouse. Went to their site. Shipping from UT is twice their PA warehouse, over $80. Emailed them and asked when they were getting them in PA. Didn't get a confirmation email email from Edge Racing. Called them this morning. Turns out they don't have any in stock. "Website should have said that. More coming in a week or two." Vulcan replies. Says "Sorry, you did not specify your location so I assumed you were located in a state near UT as we had stock in our PA location yesterday." But not according to your website, which said both locations had two each... Why can't Tire Rack just carry Falkens? Last edited by Gonzo; 03-27-2008 at 01:58 PM.

03-28-2008, 11:03 AM	#747 (permalink)
Gonzo You're doing it wrong!! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 21 Posts: 5,467 iTrader: 5 / 100%	Yeah it probably will be pretty good in GS. I wish our cars could be in STS, damn that LSD! Actually Bryan said he really liked the LSD in our two cars so it definitely is nice, just class prohibitive. Are you planning to make a lot of events this season? I'm going to try to hit all of them, we'll see if that pans out but I should hopefully make almost all. I want to see Bryan's kid drive. He's been racing for over 5 years! They pulled the karts out at the end of the first day but it was clear they were going to be a while until they drove. I asked some of the other drivers who knew him, said he was extremely fast and has a lot of talent, plus he has a dad who is so skilled and good at instruction. My dad was talking to the kid at one point. He said he was watching me drive and could see improvement and that I seemed to be learning pretty fast. From a 10 year old!! He's going pro one day... Last edited by Gonzo; 03-28-2008 at 11:06 AM.

03-29-2008, 08:08 PM	#754 (permalink)
*Highrev1* 8thcivic Sponsor Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 3,681 iTrader: 1 / 100%	Did a Test and Tune today at NNJR!! Had Mario, Honda93 Co-Drive with me in my S2000 I just got it back Friday after a 1.5 year loan to my brother, so it was like a new car to me..Waiver of why I sucked out of the way... I sucked a$$ I ran one event last year and that was in Tony's car. So I have been out of practice. Tony Owned me.....I sucked it up today...Went back to my old habits Hopefully next week I will "slow down to go fast" although overdriving the S2K is FUN ...Thanks Tony... Great read as to why I say "slow down to go fast" Pobst Position: My Epiphany; RandyPobst.com __________________ BUY MY CIVIC

03-30-2008, 05:55 PM	#758 (permalink)
tpofa-07LX Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: g-vegas Posts: 293 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Well it was a blast. They put me in novice class instead of HS because of my first time running. There were 57 competitors and I got to run 6 times. I will make a thread with some pictures later. Oh yeah, posted a faster time than an evo and an sti that were also in novice class , got the first place trophy for novice.

03-26-2008, 04:31 PM	#741 (permalink)
Gonzo You're doing it wrong!! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 21 Posts: 5,467 iTrader: 5 / 100%	Will give them a whirl.

03-27-2008, 04:47 PM	#743 (permalink)
piknockout Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Maryland Posts: 154 Josh iTrader: 0 / 0%	Yeah, I've always wondered why they don't. Check out Discount Tire Direct yet?

03-28-2008, 09:58 AM	#744 (permalink)
hugeevilrobot Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 121 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Hey, been reading here for a little bit (you got me to come back gonzo, i was in the blue sedan at the level 1 school) and just ordered up my new wheels and tires, and figured I would get a bit better alignment done. I remember seeing specs in one of the threads on this forum, and was wondering if anyone could link me or post some specs for GS, only mod at all being the new wheels and tires. How was the level 2 school Gonzo, got that next weekend and I'm stoked

03-28-2008, 10:47 AM	#745 (permalink)
Gonzo You're doing it wrong!! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 21 Posts: 5,467 iTrader: 5 / 100%	Yeah dude I definitely remember, glad to have ya back. :) Alignment specs, don't have a link right now but I can guarantee they were posted by HighRev1, he is our local Si owning autocross guru, and one of our general autocross gurus. For your car my guess is you will want to have the shop put maximum camber possible on stock hardware is you're running GS. We can ask HighRev what he thinks should be done to a GS car. Level two was awesome. It was wet out which added to the experience. We did figure 8's to practice throttle streer (though I learned the most about throttle steer later in the day) and then a slalom heavy course. I killed a few cones and sideswiped one at one point. Actually left a dent in the side under the door. My car was too tail happy, probably due to my aftermarket rear sway which will be coming off for now. Last part of the day we did the same course as level 1. The instructors got a chance to give us lots of feedback. Everyone was helpful. I am bad with names but my main in car instructors for the first and second day were great. The shorter guy named Greg was awesome because he would watch every run and he kept convincing me to push my car faster when I was holding back. Bryan, the main guy, drove once and rode along once. Man he is fast... He also has awesome instruction. If you don't mind someone giving instruction non stop to you the whole run then you can learn a ton from him. He gives a lot of instruction constantly and gives it well. The toughest part for me was going downhill out of the second slalom toward that hairpin turn. Exiting the slalom was the tricky part. I was getting faster and faster through the slalom thanks to encouragement (or harassment ) by Greg. Unfortunately when you come out of it you are really fast. I kept lifting coming out of the slalom. If you lift too much the rear end gets light and my car wanted to spin. Stay in the throttle too much and the car will understeer into the outside cone. Not that I was doing it poorly but it was super tricky to nail perfectly but man was it a good learning experience on understeer vs oversteer in a FWD car. I really had the idea of hammering the throttle to prevent of a spin ingrained in me. You're gonna have a blast!

03-28-2008, 10:54 AM	#746 (permalink)
hugeevilrobot Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 121 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Yeah, Brian is really, really fast, I remember him getting into the low-mid 33's on the L1 school, a fair bit faster than the elise was on my stock wheels/tires. He seemed optimistic about the Si in GS, but looking at the nats results and seeing some of the feedback in this thread just confirmed the whole "spec mini s" thing. 30+ cars and 2 of them werent minis... luckily I'm nowhere near that level.

03-28-2008, 11:19 AM	#748 (permalink)
hugeevilrobot Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 121 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Yeah, I'd love to get out there for as many of the events as I can, I know I need seat time more than anything else right now. Going to try to make all the events this year, as well as some nearby, though I'm having a hard time finding much else withing a few hours of nova. I know they run a decent number of events up in Hershey, PA, and I can hit a lot of the Northern NJ events because I can spend the night at my parents place in DE, no way im leaving at 2-3 AM to make that 6 hr drive. Does anyone else run events within a few hours of DC?

03-28-2008, 11:25 AM	#749 (permalink)
Gonzo You're doing it wrong!! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 21 Posts: 5,467 iTrader: 5 / 100%	I'm in Richmond, that's under two hours south of D.C. with little to no traffic. I think we got up around 5am to make Level 1 event.

03-28-2008, 01:02 PM	#750 (permalink)
Gonzo You're doing it wrong!! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 21 Posts: 5,467 iTrader: 5 / 100%	I may try Discount Tire if JLB is more and/or they don't have my wheels in stock.

03-28-2008, 01:12 PM	#751 (permalink)
hugeevilrobot Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 121 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Are the re-01r's that much more expensive? I've heard they are significantly better overall, especially in the wet, and last longer if you are running them for more than just events. My roomate (the guy at the L1 school in the white wrx) is running them in STX, as am I in GS. Nice to get the through the tire rack as well since they do a lot with SCCA and always have amazing turnaround and service in my experience.

03-28-2008, 01:52 PM	#752 (permalink)
Gonzo You're doing it wrong!! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 21 Posts: 5,467 iTrader: 5 / 100%	RE-01R: $712 @ Tirerack RT-615: $444 @ Edge Racing ($460 @ Vulcan)

03-28-2008, 09:19 PM	#753 (permalink)
Gonzo You're doing it wrong!! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 21 Posts: 5,467 iTrader: 5 / 100%	Camber goodies were sent Wednesday from Corsport. Wheels from JLB went out today. Tires from Discount Tire Direct will go out Monday. Oh boy. The package from Corsport has an estimated delivery set tomorrow. I can't imagine they did Saturday delivery, but...?

03-29-2008, 09:07 PM	#755 (permalink)
Gonzo You're doing it wrong!! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 21 Posts: 5,467 iTrader: 5 / 100%	For whatever reason my rear arms didn't arrive today, just the front bolts. Waiting on a response from Corsport.

03-29-2008, 10:50 PM	#756 (permalink)
tpofa-07LX Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: g-vegas Posts: 293 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Going autocrossing my first time tomorrow!! I cant wait.

03-29-2008, 10:52 PM	#757 (permalink)
Gonzo You're doing it wrong!! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 21 Posts: 5,467 iTrader: 5 / 100%	w00t! Have fun man! Make sure you get plenty of sleep tonight. Though even if you don't you'll still be wired.

03-30-2008, 07:24 PM	#759 (permalink)
Gonzo You're doing it wrong!! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 21 Posts: 5,467 iTrader: 5 / 100%	Now, that's what I'm talking about! First place out of 57. You should definitely be proud of that!

03-30-2008, 07:53 PM	#760 (permalink)
ImBiginKorea Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 213 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Today was the first auto-x of the season. I was running completely stock on the pilot allseasons . Me and a mugen si took top two spots in g stock. My runs were 52.xx, 47.9, 46.9 and 46.6 The mugen was running 225/45 or 40/17 re-01's and he was in the 42's. Over all it was a fun time and I can't wait tell the azenis get here later for the rest of the season. --Korea