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[hurricane]

In case you want to see how the Si is doing in other venues here are the results for the Jul 9th Solo in Council Bluffs, NE

http://www.nrscca.com/results/Solo060709.html

I was pretty impressed with how well the car did (not my car). Seemed like this shorter auto-x cross may have favored this car some.

Originally Posted by venomous

Good evening all,

Results for the NNJR event: http://www.autox4u.com/2006results/782006nnjr.htm

Congrats to Anthony for clinching the third place in PAX in a highly competitive pro class. As for me, I made the top ten PAX, and overall winning my GS class by a considerable margin.

First impression of the SI:

I was extremely impressed at how composed the SI was. It was mostly evident in the slalom where I was able to continuously bounce off the rev limiter in second gear (about 60 mph) in the slalom section. I know that some of you mentioned that the car needed at least an alignment and you're absolutely right. The LSD made a huge difference in the tight stuff but for some reason, it felt as if I was experiencing some inside wheel spin. I'll keep an eye for that during the next autox event on the 22 where I'll try out the hoosier A6s in the front this time.

I had a lot fo fun the first time out with the SI, and it truely has tons of potential. Stay tune, I'm going to give Anthony's alignment tip a try at the next autox, and I will report back with my fidings.

- Jay

[sbmon]

Thanks Janizary
I was in the novice class (I have alot to learn but am enjoying it) and will be in the novice class for atleast 1 more event. After that I am not sure of the class I will be in, I lowered the car so I am not sure what they will and will not allow here in my local area.
shawn

[etf]

Nice shot, sbmon. Are you running Kosei K1s? (looks like it to me). What are you running for tires? I can make you some nicer looking graphics if you are going to keep on doing autocross. Good Luck in the future!

[CMByrd]

Hey EFT, you coming out to peachtree this sunday? Im gonna try to make it to my first AutoX, could definatly use someone to show me the ropes (;

[BATANG CITY JAIL]

not an autocrosser..but wanna try one, but can't find a track... a nieghbor of mine owend a 1993 rx7 and 2 turbo miata.. and some guys drop by every friday and seen 2 red 2 silver 1 black 2 white 1 yellow rx-7's.. i talk to these guys and they autocross in VA..

[etf]

Originally Posted by CMByrd

Hey EFT, you coming out to peachtree this sunday? Im gonna try to make it to my first AutoX, could definatly use someone to show me the ropes (;

Yes, I will be there. As far as showing you the ropes, I am still new to this myself. All I can suggest is that you get there early (7:00am) so you can get registered, stage your car and do the novice course walk (usually about 8:30am). You need to seek out Scott Grandfield. He is a great coach and will help you with the basics of autocrossing.
Have you registered? I think it closes Friday (7/14).

E.T.

[venomous]

Originally Posted by BATANG CITY JAIL

not an autocrosser..but wanna try one, but can't find a track... a nieghbor of mine owend a 1993 rx7 and 2 turbo miata.. and some guys drop by every friday and seen 2 red 2 silver 1 black 2 white 1 yellow rx-7's.. i talk to these guys and they autocross in VA..

Let me know if you find anything closer to Durham. I do plan on moving to the RTP section of NC in a month or two.

[BATANG CITY JAIL]

that VA race track is the only one closer and theres a dragstrip in rockingham wich is an hour and a half from RTP... i can say that rockingham is one of the good race track in the US... theres always an event going on in there..like NOPI nationals just this past weekend..and here in NC theres a 11mile mountain pass called the tail of the dragon..

[venomous]

holysh*t, I'm moving down there and I totally forgot about tail of the dragon:)

Damn, so I have to drive almost two hours just to autocross? That is going to be a pain in the arse. I guess that is the only way. On a good note, VIR would not be that far from me and I know nasa and a lot of other clubs run events there all of the time:)

[honda93]

Originally Posted by venomous

holysh*t, I'm moving down there and I totally forgot about tail of the dragon:)

Damn, so I have to drive almost two hours just to autocross? That is going to be a pain in the arse. I guess that is the only way. On a good note, VIR would not be that far from me and I know nasa and a lot of other clubs run events there all of the time:)

Yeah, you almost miss registration at Englishtown and you live around the block from the autocross site!!!

[venomous]

Originally Posted by honda93

Yeah, you almost miss registration at Englishtown and you live around the block from the autocross site!!!

who
what
where
when
why
:rolleyes:

[honda93]

Originally Posted by venomous

who
what
where
when
why
:rolleyes:

Like I tell my students...

You might have pulled it off if, IF, it was my first day on the job, but it isn't. Sorry.

[poopsi]

I've been Autoxing in Texas with San Antonio Sports Car Association and SPOKES ...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...10244298512153

But in August I'm moving to Boston, MA and trying to decide if I want to race with Northeast Region SCCA or drive down to CT to race with that club.

These clubs don't offer Tire classing ... so I'm also trying to decide:

1. Stay in GS and save money by making no mods (I'll be in grad school) but be up against R-comps

2. Go to STX and make what minor mods I can afford (like replacing my slipping crash bolts with cam bolts, maybe a sway bar ... MAYBE trying to get a sponsorship).

[venomous]

I wouls say to stay SCCA. I've autocross in CT and I was not too impressed with the lot. Their rules are also a bit different.

[driveshift]

Autcrossing here in SJ CA kinda died down for awhile. Don't know why, but I'd love to get into it too. Anyways, the fools on the street aren't nearly as good as those who autocross. I wouldn't say i autocrossed before, but I have done similar stuff on authorized parking lots where cones were laid out too. I took my friend's EK4/9 (95-99) Civic for 2 laps. I didn't even pass 80mph cus it didn't have long straightaways, but I experienced more G's pulling on me. I want to try it out again, spoon'd b18c-r swap with tein coilovers and stripped to the bare chassis. he pulled 4 seconds faster than a turbo'd integra GSR and 1.2 sconds faster than a 350z. Damn, I'm hella hyped up again.

fun as hell.

[ericdc]

Originally Posted by honda93

CURRENT MODS: Kumho V710 rubber, OEM camber bolts, autocross alignment

Can you provide any info on the OEM camber bolts? (Part number, tsb, etc)

Would you mind revealing how much camber you ended up getting after installing the bolts?

I currently autox an 05 STi and may end up Running my Si next season.

[honda93]

Originally Posted by ericdc

Can you provide any info on the OEM camber bolts? (Part number, tsb, etc)

Would you mind revealing how much camber you ended up getting after installing the bolts?

I currently autox an 05 STi and may end up Running my Si next season.

*FACTORY CAMBER BOLTS: 04512-SNA-305

Approx. $6.00 each (require 4 altogether)

These bolts yield no more than 1/2 degree. Frankly, there isn't much room between the strut housing and the top of the hub to allow anything silly with the OEM units. I am certain something from SPC would yield more, but they are illegal for Stock class SCCA autocrossing.

Anthony "Mario" Crea

[poopsi]

Originally Posted by honda93

*FACTORY CAMBER BOLTS: 04512-SNA-305

Approx. $6.00 each (require 4 altogether)

These bolts yield no more than 1/2 degree. Frankly, there isn't much room between the strut housing and the top of the hub to allow anything silly with the OEM units. I am certain something from SPC would yield more, but they are illegal for Stock class SCCA autocrossing.

Anthony "Mario" Crea

I did this - and I'm disappointed with the results. While I did gain about .4 degrees of neg camber on each side ... I'm now dealing with possible positive camber on both sides.

I'm seriously thinking about making a few minor changes (like "real" cam bolts, rather than "crash" bolts like this) and moving to STX. Of course - that opens the door for ALL kinds of mods that I really shouldn't be spending on while in grad school ...

[venomous]

[quote=poopsi]I did this - and I'm disappointed with the results. While I did gain about .4 degrees of neg camber on each side ... I'm now dealing with possible positive camber on both sides.
QUOTE]


I'm a bit lost here; you mentioned that you were able to get neg .4 degrees of camber as a result of switching to crash bolts. How in the world are you dealing with positive camber on both side?
both side of what?
did you not perform and alignment after the switch?

You then talked about to STX because you want to switch to cam bolts that will yield greater negative camber, please help me understand your logic in doing this, since you will not change any other suspension component, and you are still wearing street tires.

What I found during my first autocross with the car bone stock (no alignments), and wearing a set of khumo v710s, is that the car behave way better than I expected. In fact, I felt that there were more times left to be had with more seat time. As Anthony stated, when I was at Englishtown, the car would benefit with a little bit of toe out on all four corners. Furthermore, I found the SI to understeer a bit less than my EVOs and STIs that I've been autocrossing for the past two years.

Awaiting your further explanation . . . .

[poopsi]

Originally Posted by venomous

I'm a bit lost here; you mentioned that you were able to get neg .4 degrees of camber as a result of switching to crash bolts. How in the world are you dealing with positive camber on both side?
both side of what?
did you not perform and alignment after the switch?

You then talked about to STX because you want to switch to cam bolts that will yield greater negative camber, please help me understand your logic in doing this, since you will not change any other suspension component, and you are still wearing street tires.

What I found during my first autocross with the car bone stock (no alignments), and wearing a set of khumo v710s, is that the car behave way better than I expected. In fact, I felt that there were more times left to be had with more seat time. As Anthony stated, when I was at Englishtown, the car would benefit with a little bit of toe out on all four corners. Furthermore, I found the SI to understeer a bit less than my EVOs and STIs that I've been autocrossing for the past two years.

Awaiting your further explanation . . . .

I started out with negative camber - but the crash bolts (which are just 14mm bolts in place of 16mm bolts) seem to have slipped with subsequent autoxing ... allowing the front wheels to slide into a more positive position. I did have an alignment done after changing the bolts, and will have another done after the rear is fixed (I was rear ended 2 weeks ago - but the positive camber started before that).

I've been quite pleased with the Si's stock performance, especially on my Azenis - don't get me wrong. But going up against race tires in GS ... I just can't compete with that (and don't want race rubber). STX - no race tires are allowed, so I'd be on "even ground" in that respect.

If I switched to STX ... I'd likely be considering some suspension work as well (which is a good reason to stay in GS - I'm starting grad school in the fall and need to watch the budget). It's really just an idea I'm throwing around, and I do appreciate your view on GS vs STX! As long as I'm autoxing ... :)

And the cam bolts wouldn't really give me great camber ... but they wouldn't slip. Actually - if I could devise some kind of shim to slip in with my crash bolts, perhaps that could prevent some of the slippage.