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Civic_Sista · 04-30-2007, 11:32 PM

Yup 12 out of 32 for me. I changed around my pressures so the back end would come around more- wow that was fun! I think I did 45 rear 42 fronts. fun fun!

honda93 · 04-30-2007, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by TUK0NG

just wondering, does any of you guys tried autocrossing the civic sedan ex? how does it handle?

It doesn't matter what you're driving when you're a beginner. Just show up to a local event and be ready to learn and be humbled all in the same day.

Anthony "Mario" Crea
NNJR-SCCA

130R · 05-01-2007, 03:22 PM

I took 1st in GS and 20th on index at the Milwaukee event. I left time out there too. I just wasn't focused enough as I had a headache putting the event on. The index showing was not bad. Almost everyone in front of me and a few behind me have taken National trophies home before.

It was not a great course for the car too. Plus, it was the first time on Hoosiers (which really helped the car and suit my style a lot better). We will only get about 25 runs total out of these front Hoosiers though before they get switched to rears.

Try to make it up here for the Memorial Day weekend TSSCC and SCCA-Milw events. Mike and I are designing courses for both days, and they should be rather VTEC friendly

tommyroo · 05-01-2007, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by honda93

The beauty of Stock with the R-compound tire allowance is as follows, worded in layman's terms for easy digestibility...

You can fit ANY TIRE, as big or small as you desire, onto the OEM sized wheel.

Anthony "Mario" Crea
NNJR-SCCA

Hrm...so does that mean my 17x8s put me into the next class because the OEMs are 17x7?

honda93 · 05-01-2007, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by honda93

The beauty of Stock with the R-compound tire allowance is as follows, worded in layman's terms for easy digestibility...

You can fit ANY TIRE, as big or small as you desire, onto the OEM sized wheel.

Anthony "Mario" Crea
NNJR-SCCA

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Originally Posted by tommyroo

Hrm...so does that mean my 17x8s put me into the next class because the OEMs are 17x7?

Are you kidding me? WTF did I say in my post? What part of OEM sized wheel confused you?

Kurt · 05-02-2007, 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by honda93

Are you kidding me? WTF did I say in my post? What part of OEM sized wheel confused you?

Hahaha, awesome.

tommyroo · 05-02-2007, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by honda93

Are you kidding me? WTF did I say in my post? What part of OEM sized wheel confused you?

Hey **** off jerky, I thought we were being helpful to each other on this thread. I'm having a bad day, you anywhere near Tampa so I can smack the smartass out of you?

130R · 05-02-2007, 04:08 PM

Crea must not teach elementary school with patience like that!

Yes, 17x8's with street tires (140+ treadwear) land you in STX (up to and including a 245-width tire, anything wider, puts you in STU). 17x8's with R-compounds (DOT approved, but less than a 140 treadwear) land you in DSP (regardless of tire width).

Dans_Si · 05-02-2007, 08:36 PM

I'm running GS at the next RT 66 event. My aftermarket wheels are the same size a stock, but have a 43 offset. Stock offset is 45 so 43 fits within the rules for GS.

What class this S-GS

Thanks for the help!

Dan

Kurt · 05-02-2007, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Dans_Si

I'm running GS at the next RT 66 event. My aftermarket wheels are the same size a stock, but have a 43 offset. Stock offset is 45 so 43 fits within the rules for GS.

What class this S-GS

Thanks for the help!

Dan

Have you gone to Joliet yet?

I'll see ya on the 13th

Dans_Si · 05-02-2007, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Kurt

Have you gone to Joliet yet?

I'll see ya on the 13th

I was there for the learning curve and for the first event. I'm hooked. The 13th will be my first event with this car.

Kurt · 05-03-2007, 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Dans_Si

I was there for the learning curve and for the first event. I'm hooked. The 13th will be my first event with this car.

What car did you run before?

I don't know if you saw me, I have the silver R18 coupe; running STS

honda93 · 05-03-2007, 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by tommyroo

Hey **** off jerky, I thought we were being helpful to each other on this thread. I'm having a bad day, you anywhere near Tampa so I can smack the smartass out of you?

Calm down Skippy. We are helpful to each otrher on this thread... But I couldn't make it any clearer than that, and you still questioned it again.

130R, you're right, I don't teach elementary school. I have the big ones in high school.

I expect these kinds of redundant questions at work, but not in the world of adulthood. Sorry.

Anthony "Mario" Crea
NNJR-SCCA

Dans_Si · 05-03-2007, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Kurt

What car did you run before?

I don't know if you saw me, I have the silver R18 coupe; running STS

I was running a eagle talon TSi in STX. What tire pressures do you run? I was running 43/38 in the talon, but it is AWD. How bad do these car understeer?

Kurt · 05-03-2007, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Dans_Si

I was running a eagle talon TSi in STX. What tire pressures do you run? I was running 43/38 in the talon, but it is AWD. How bad do these car understeer?

I think you were next to me in the Learning Curve on Sunday. Is your Talon green?

I was running 38 front/42 rear I think. And yeah, you'll get some understeer

tommyroo · 05-03-2007, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by honda93

Calm down Skippy. We are helpful to each otrher on this thread... But I couldn't make it any clearer than that, and you still questioned it again.

130R, you're right, I don't teach elementary school. I have the big ones in high school.

I expect these kinds of redundant questions at work, but not in the world of adulthood. Sorry.

Anthony "Mario" Crea
NNJR-SCCA

I am sorry if I wanted confirmation before I sold my stock rims.

Maybe there was some subset of the rules that said the rims don't matter if you have the stock tires on them? I mean, why would 17x8 matter vs 17x7 if I still have the 215/45's on them?

WTF do I know, I just asked a question and you were a responded like a...never mind, not worth it.

If this is typical attitude of the people who autox then I think I will stay away.

Kurt · 05-03-2007, 12:47 PM

Someone call the WAAAAAMBULANCE ^

Dans_Si · 05-03-2007, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Kurt

I think you were next to me in the Learning Curve on Sunday. Is your Talon green?

I was running 38 front/42 rear I think. And yeah, you'll get some understeer

Yeah that was me. The getto talon is officially retired.

130R · 05-03-2007, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by tommyroo

I am sorry if I wanted confirmation before I sold my stock rims.

.... that said the rims don't matter if you have the stock tires on them? I mean, why would 17x8 matter vs 17x7 if I still have the 215/45's on them?

Actually, a lot! A 17x8 will stretch a tire better than a 17x7. They usually transition better and make the tire more square. All of the top cars in non-stock classes use the widest wheel possible to stretch their tires out. I have seen 205/50-15's on 15x8's and 225/45-15's on 15x9.5's, etc, etc, etc. As someone that has driven the same car and tire, but on both a 16x6.5 and 16x7.5, it made a huge difference!

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Originally Posted by tommyroo

If this is typical attitude of the people who autox then I think I will stay away.

Its not.

Unfourtnatly, it is the typical attitude of internet forums though. Most autocrossers are very nice people and always willing to give a helping hand. It is a sport where the entrants are responsible for putting on the events. The event chairmen/chiefs are not paid for what they do, they do it so we can have events. In that type of environment, you get a lot of willing and nice people.

tommyroo · 05-03-2007, 02:08 PM

Thanks 130R

You have renewed my faith in the internet today.

Kurt...well, sorry if my posting has caused you pain. I assure it is nowhere near the pain I am feeling knowing that my $1200 rims are forcing me into a class I cannot compete in.

04-30-2007, 11:32 PM	#341 (permalink)
Civic_Sista Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Milwaukee, Wi Age: 24 Posts: 1,023 Tracy iTrader: 1 / 100%	Yup 12 out of 32 for me. I changed around my pressures so the back end would come around more- wow that was fun! I think I did 45 rear 42 fronts. fun fun!

05-01-2007, 03:22 PM	#343 (permalink)
130R Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Menomonee Falls, WI Age: 27 Posts: 30 Sam Karp iTrader: 0 / 0%	I took 1st in GS and 20th on index at the Milwaukee event. I left time out there too. I just wasn't focused enough as I had a headache putting the event on. The index showing was not bad. Almost everyone in front of me and a few behind me have taken National trophies home before. It was not a great course for the car too. Plus, it was the first time on Hoosiers (which really helped the car and suit my style a lot better). We will only get about 25 runs total out of these front Hoosiers though before they get switched to rears. Try to make it up here for the Memorial Day weekend TSSCC and SCCA-Milw events. Mike and I are designing courses for both days, and they should be rather VTEC friendly

05-02-2007, 04:08 PM	#348 (permalink)
130R Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Menomonee Falls, WI Age: 27 Posts: 30 Sam Karp iTrader: 0 / 0%	Crea must not teach elementary school with patience like that! Yes, 17x8's with street tires (140+ treadwear) land you in STX (up to and including a 245-width tire, anything wider, puts you in STU). 17x8's with R-compounds (DOT approved, but less than a 140 treadwear) land you in DSP (regardless of tire width).

05-02-2007, 08:36 PM	#349 (permalink)
Dans_Si Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Good Old Kane Co. IL Posts: 150 iTrader: 0 / 0%	I'm running GS at the next RT 66 event. My aftermarket wheels are the same size a stock, but have a 43 offset. Stock offset is 45 so 43 fits within the rules for GS. What class this S-GS Thanks for the help! Dan

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Kurt Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Age: 21 Posts: 3,570 iTrader: 2 / 100%	Someone call the WAAAAAMBULANCE ^

05-03-2007, 02:08 PM	#360 (permalink)
tommyroo Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Age: 34 Posts: 1,155 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Thanks 130R You have renewed my faith in the internet today. Kurt...well, sorry if my posting has caused you pain. I assure it is nowhere near the pain I am feeling knowing that my $1200 rims are forcing me into a class I cannot compete in.