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Old 04-21-2006, 03:15 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Drifting an FF drive Train

Can anyone explain how to drift a FF drive train its complate different from an FR??
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Can anyone explain how to drift a FF drive train its complate different from an FR??

I see somebody's already gotten their Fast and the Furious: Toyko Drift tickets....

Seriously though, you're going to have hard time drifting a front wheel drive car for two reasons. The drive wheels are the same wheels as the ones that need to steer. FF layouts tend to understeer WAAAAAY before they'll oversteer, meaning you can't put the tailend out to get the car to slide or drift without driving on sand or in snow or rain or some other traction-losing condition. Of all the drift vids and live comps I've seen, I've never seen a FF drift car. Not because it's impossible to do it right. But because it's a step underneath impossible to do it right.

Hmm...maybe if you go boost, you could use the torque steer to do something but who knows? I've never tried which is why I didn't say it's impossible. :)
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Drifting an FF is HARD, but not nearly that close to impossible. It requires e-braking and extreme oversteering and then quick compensation for it. Basicly you're doing everything you can to reduce your traction lol.

I will say however, that I absolutely do NOT suggest trying it. It is extremely dangerous in an FF and you will most likely end up facing the wrong way in a ditch.

drive normal, if you've got an Si you're able to take turns alot faster than anyone you meet could drift them.
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if you really really really want to learn, there's some videos of pros drifting FF cars, and it has cameras on the inside so you can see when they e-brake and stuff...

or just watch initial D and be a pro overnight :)
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Drifting an FF is HARD, but not nearly that close to impossible. It requires e-braking and extreme oversteering and then quick compensation for it. Basicly you're doing everything you can to reduce your traction lol.


I will say however, that I absolutely do NOT suggest trying it. It is extremely dangerous in an FF and you will most likely end up facing the wrong way in a ditch.


drive normal, if you've got an Si you're able to take turns alot faster than anyone you meet could drift them.
I did it once. Got around a snake. Forgot what the hell I did though. Tried to do it again and ^^^^ that happened. lol Was facing the direction of on-coming traffic, but there was no one around.
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I have a 240SX that im building for drifting. I will tell you plain and simple that front wheel drive cars cannot drift. You may have seen the video of the little CRX that drifts around the track. Look closely at this braking system. Its crazy and the brake bias has to be totally redone in order to accomplish this. Plus the track bar adjustments and suspension adjustments just to manuever the car properly would not be worth it. In my opinion, drive the Civic for track & drag. If you are really interested in drifting, buy a cheap ass KA powered 240, strip the interior and put a race seat in it. Make sure it has an LSD (you can get one from another 240, 300z, J30 or Q45) and have fun! You can slide a fwd car but its not true drifting. Drifting is about physics and the characteristics that are found in rwd cars. Hondas scrub so much speed because the front wheels are trying to pull it through the corner instead of pushing it through. You can pull the ebrake and slide it sideways but your speed will drop substantially. This to me is sliding around corners, not drifting. You best shot is to stiffen the piss out of the rear suspension and frame of the car, soften the front, put some old bald tires on the back and attack the corners like a mad man!!

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I see somebody's already gotten their Fast and the Furious: Toyko Drift tickets....

Seriously though, you're going to have hard time drifting a front wheel drive car for two reasons. The drive wheels are the same wheels as the ones that need to steer. FF layouts tend to understeer WAAAAAY before they'll oversteer, meaning you can't put the tailend out to get the car to slide or drift without driving on sand or in snow or rain or some other traction-losing condition. Of all the drift vids and live comps I've seen, I've never seen a FF drift car. Not because it's impossible to do it right. But because it's a step underneath impossible to do it right.

Hmm...maybe if you go boost, you could use the torque steer to do something but who knows? I've never tried which is why I didn't say it's impossible. :)


whats Tyoko Drift???
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I see somebody's already gotten their Fast and the Furious: Toyko Drift tickets....

Seriously though, you're going to have hard time drifting a front wheel drive car for two reasons. The drive wheels are the same wheels as the ones that need to steer. FF layouts tend to understeer WAAAAAY before they'll oversteer, meaning you can't put the tailend out to get the car to slide or drift without driving on sand or in snow or rain or some other traction-losing condition. Of all the drift vids and live comps I've seen, I've never seen a FF drift car. Not because it's impossible to do it right. But because it's a step underneath impossible to do it right.

Hmm...maybe if you go boost, you could use the torque steer to do something but who knows? I've never tried which is why I didn't say it's impossible. :)
..your funny bro, your comments always crack me up.:gaygiggle
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..your funny bro, your comments always crack me up.:gaygiggle
Just put some stiff ass shocks/spring and an oversized swaybar and you'll be loosing the back end like crazy... just hit a lil ebrake to start it off.
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