Cobalt SS vs Civic SI

[phatnackyss]

Originally Posted by Spoony

Got rid of it bc of reliability issues? of course it was unreliable

In an earlier post you called the Cobalt a POS...I'm really not too sure if you can call a car a PoS when you up the revlimiter past what the drive train can actually handle, ran open headers with flames shootin out the back and f'ed the axles (likely from wheelhop) and clutch up.

Seriously dude, 8300 is an increase of 1850 over the stock revlimiter...try adding that to your Civic SI without modifying the valvetrain and see what happens. It sounds like you were expecting a bit much out of a car that costs this much.

ditto

[fiji06si13]

I've accidentally reved to 9,000 rpm's not on purpose though and it's held no bent valves....

[fiji06si13]

Originally Posted by sinirgi

the larger whale tail spoiler on the trunk indicates a supercharged SS as opposed the spoiler that is much closer to the trunk lid is the 2.4 SS.

on the right side below tail lights there is a Supercharged Badge on them...

[nayilsi]

Originally Posted by fiji06si13

I've accidentally reved to 9,000 rpm's not on purpose though and it's held no bent valves....

downshifting ?

[Will06SI]

Originally Posted by Spoony

Got rid of it bc of reliability issues? of course it was unreliable

In an earlier post you called the Cobalt a POS...I'm really not too sure if you can call a car a PoS when you up the revlimiter past what the drive train can actually handle, ran open headers with flames shootin out the back and f'ed the axles (likely from wheelhop) and clutch up.

Seriously dude, 8300 is an increase of 1850 over the stock revlimiter...try adding that to your Civic SI without modifying the valvetrain and see what happens. It sounds like you were expecting a bit much out of a car that costs this much.

Out of curiousity, what mods do you have done to your SI?

The SI will rev to 8,600 with no issues with the Hondata reflash so its all Good !

[Monty]

Originally Posted by Spoony

I believe the article people are referencing is Car and Driver's lightning lap...they basically took a bunch of cars and time'd them going around VIR.

http://www.caranddriver.com/features...-lap-2006.html

They praised the handling, but the car's straight line performance translated into the slowest lap time in its bracket. Running the cars around an actual race track with both straights and turns is IMO a very good way to gauge performance and I wish they'd do these types of comparo's more often.

If you havn't already you should give it a read...interesting article, would make me cry if I owned a mustang tho.

I read the article when it was in the magazine. The Cobalt SS/SC is very competitive and beats our Si's in the twisties and the strait-aways. Not sure about reliability, but when it comes to pure performance it's better.

The Supercharged Cobalt has 205 hp @ 5600rpm and 200 torque@ 4400rpm, redlines at 6500 RPM and and weighs 2,681 lbs.

Quite a little monster.

[iomatic]

But is there a 4-door?

[skiddy]

Originally Posted by Monty

The Supercharged Cobalt has 205 hp @ 5600rpm and 200 torque@ 4400rpm, redlines at 6500 RPM and and weighs 2,681 lbs.

Quite a little monster.

Not sure what SS/SC that is, but they weight in around 2900lbs. 2600ish would be ridiculous.

Still agree with ya though.

[firmhonda]

Originally Posted by skiddy

Not sure what SS/SC that is, but they weight in around 2900lbs. 2600ish would be ridiculous.

Still agree with ya though.

The ion redline weighs in around 2600 lbs, but not the ss/sc.

[Spoony]

Originally Posted by Will06SI

The SI will rev to 8,600 with no issues with the Hondata reflash so its all Good !

lets review:

Civic SI: stock rev limiter 8k, 8600-8k = 600
Cobalt SS/SC stock rev limiter 6450, 8300-6450=1850

For your comparison to actually make sense you'd have had to rev your Honda to 9850. Maybe your car would be able to do that reliably, but somehow I doubt it.

[phatnackyss]

as far as reliability goes, i have 27k on my ss/sc, only problem iv had was an broken axle. but that was my fault, track was sticky and i was trying to launch at 4.5k and i wheel hoped it till it snapped. now i find a nice 2.5k while feathering the clutch makes for a nice launch. other than that , theres some paint around the window switches that is chipping off, and the car idles weird sometimes but there’s a re flash that fixes that , I just haven’t had time to make it to the dealer.

i don’t know what some expect from this car. i got it because i wanted something that was going to be a quick daily driver, with a warranty.
i don’t see how people can buy a car, and push it way further then it was ever meant to go , then bitch about it when it blows up in there face.

[Spoony]

Originally Posted by phatnackyss

i don’t know what some expect from this car. i got it because i wanted something that was going to be a quick daily driver, with a warranty.
i don’t see how people can buy a car, and push it way further then it was ever meant to go , then bitch about it when it blows up in there face.

I'm in the same boat as you, I wanted a daily driver that was quick and that had a warranty so I didn't have to deal with random BS. Chevy allows you a decent bump in performance through dealer backed GMPP options. I'm not sure what more you can really expect out of the car.

[fiji06si13]

Originally Posted by nayilsi

downshifting ?

yeah did an oopsies....

[sdiori]

Why did I buy a Si? Because I wanted it....not because of someone else's thoughts or opinions. I agree though: the Cobalt SS/SC and Redline are both little track monsters....and yes, they'll probably be times that one or the other will have my number should we meet on the street or track. But I get in my car, feel the quality of all the textures, rev the 6-Speed to 8600 RPM, listen to the K20 scream ....and all is ONE. I can see and feel where my money went.

That's just me.....I got all psycho with making my Si faster and faster, and forgot to actually enjoy the car......have you hit a twistie, dropped it to second, and punched it?? In addition, I know that when I'm done playing, the car will sell itself-------

If you like your SS/SC, Redline, WRX, SRT-4, MS3 or the like.....enjoy. Its a beautiful thing.

Like Jeep says: Have Fun Out There

[dc5rn]

Originally Posted by Spoony

Got rid of it bc of reliability issues? of course it was unreliable

In an earlier post you called the Cobalt a POS...I'm really not too sure if you can call a car a PoS when you up the revlimiter past what the drive train can actually handle, ran open headers with flames shootin out the back and f'ed the axles (likely from wheelhop) and clutch up.

Seriously dude, 8300 is an increase of 1850 over the stock revlimiter...try adding that to your Civic SI without modifying the valvetrain and see what happens. It sounds like you were expecting a bit much out of a car that costs this much.

Out of curiousity, what mods do you have done to your SI?

nothing done to the Si... keeping it stock... well only reason why i call it a POS because of other reasons... 2k miles cruise control stops working, bumper is not aligned right. headlights have 2 different gaps, key fob stopped working, CEL always on(before mod).. but for performance wise, it was worth it... i autocrossed the car and the best part was i never had brake fade...

[Spoony]

Originally Posted by sdiori

If you like your SS/SC, Redline, WRX, SRT-4, MS3 or the like.....enjoy. Its a beautiful thing.

Like Jeep says: Have Fun Out There

Well said

[beans]

Originally Posted by alexv305

07 Cobalt SS Supercharged vs 07 Civic SI

I ran today on a track. I could tell you this, both cars are nice. I drove the Civic SI. Mods are TB spacer and gaskets, Fujita SRI, TB coolant bypass. I must admit, the Colbalt outran me in every aspect of racing; Drag, Track, Top End. My 07 SI was put to shame.

Can anyone actually keep up with a Cobalt SS Supercharged and with what mods?

PS - Just thought I'd let you know, I still like my Honda better :)

its really dependant on the driver.... i've put many cobalt ss's to shame

[SpeedDemon]

Someone should close to thread.

It makes me mad, when comparing to that car.

Like I said 100times already.

Civic Si >>>>>Cobalt S/C

.Period

[07mugencivic]

i think they will always going to win...they have a supercharger...stock to stock

[dualdiagnosis]

To all si owners.....don't worry. Our cars are almost 200 horse n/a. I certainly don't lose any sleep over a supercharged cobalt. I just would hate to have a supercharged car barely making over 200 horse. Anyways after my 100 shot o spray.....it will be quite laughable (for me anyways).