Torque?

[Blainestang]

Originally Posted by ibanez37

MUSTANGS RULE!! ***waits patiently for Blaine's Engineering degree to prove this one to the masses***

Don't insult everyone's intelligence, ibanez... It doesn't take an engineering degree to see that Mustangs Rule!

(BTW, for the guy who's about to ruin this thread with "yeah right, the Mustang will break down before the end of the race", etc...we're just joking. )

[TJ213]

yeah right, the Mustang will break down before the end of the race





btw, if you really want torque just get a Veyron

[Blainestang]

Originally Posted by TJ213

yeah right, the Mustang will break down before the end of the race

Nice...

[ibanez37]

Well played! And now to let the thread die off naturally.. from lack of interest since I am now posting in it.

[Blainestang]

Originally Posted by ibanez37

Well played! And now to let the thread die off naturally.. from lack of interest since I am now posting in it.

Thanks... And yeah, I'm surprised a thread about Torque had any interest AT ALL on a Honda site j/k...

[si_civic]

Torque is what gets you going.
Horsepower is what keeps you going.

From the start, punch your pedal to the floor.

Notice nothing? That's right it has no torque, but you do feel something at the higher rpms. That's horsepower.

Drive any V6 or V8 and punch it off the line.

[Freq18hz]

HP = faster on a track, faster on paper, faster on the dyno.

torque = faster in your mind, faster on the butt dyno.


The only thing torque is useful for, is burn outs, towing a boat, and it allows you to have to shift less, because with more torque, your power band is flatter. High horsepower motors (like racing engines) tend to feature high peak horsepower instead of torque. The end result is that you need to be in the right gear at the right time, to get the performance out of your engine. This is why hondas have no power, except above 6k RPMs. Basically more torque = better daily driver. More HP = better track car.

more torque = easier to drive fast
no torque = harder to drive slow

-Freq

[gibbletz]

Torque in a honda?

[atruhondagrl]

Originally Posted by si_civic

Torque is what gets you going.
Horsepower is what keeps you going.

From the start, punch your pedal to the floor.

Notice nothing? That's right it has no torque, but you do feel something at the higher rpms. That's horsepower.

Drive any V6 or V8 and punch it off the line.

Not always the case. I'm driving a Dodge Magnum rental with a 2.7 V6 right now. My Si would slaughter this slow beast. Dodge should just avoid making this car. It only has 190 hp and 190lbs torque. All I know is I fear merging into traffic. A Hyundai Accent can give me a good run for my money.

http://www-5.dodge.com/vehsuite/VehicleCompare.jsp

[TJ213]

my take on it: heavy cars need tq, light cars don't

[KingMarineM16a4]

Quoted out of my Lincoln Technical Institute Automotive Technology textbook which is regulated by NATEF (National Automotive Technician Education Foundation) and ASE (Automotive Service Excellence)

Torque is the force that tends to rotate or turn things and is measured by the force applied to the distance traveled....

...Horsepower is the rate at which torque is produced. James Watt is credited with being the first person to calculate horsepower and power. He measured the amount of work that a horse could do in a specific time.James Watt defined one horsepower as the power a horse exerts pulling 330 pounds 100 feet in 1 minute....

...An engine that produces 300 pound-feet of torque at 4,000 rpm produces 228 horsepower at 4,000 rpm. This is based on the formula that horsepower is equal to torque multiplied by engine speed and that sum divided by 5,252 ([torque x engine speed] /5252=horsepower). The constant, 5,252, is used to convert the rpm for torque and horsepower into revolutions per second....

/thread

[Slow_si]

Good stuff. Thanks/+rep


Bah. No more rep Giving Privleges.

[sheek360]

Originally Posted by TJ213

NA torque is made through displacement, that requires more fuel,

true, but then theres timing, static timing, cam angles, piston comp etc etc etc. theres many more ways to make more tq and staying n/a. not just through displacement

[Tom1222]

Originally Posted by TJ213

yeah right, the Mustang will break down before the end of the race





btw, if you really want torque just get a Veyron

One Excecutive here in Indianapolis just received one. They made a big deal about it in the news. He is one of only 22 here in the US.
He plans to race it in a legal road race. Why not. Lets wreck a 1 million dollar 1000 HP car Must be nice not to worry about money.

[Tom1222]

Originally Posted by TJ213

my take on it: heavy cars need tq, light cars don't

Does that mean that Fat Girls need bras and skinny ones don't

[TJ213]

Originally Posted by sheek360

true, but then theres timing, static timing, cam angles, piston comp etc etc etc. theres many more ways to make more tq and staying n/a. not just through displacement

yeah, but as much as I hate to admit it, for good torque there really is no replacement for displacement, there are ways to get around it, like the Si has pretty good torque for a NA 2.0l, but overall revs and HP are more flexible milage wise most of the time IMO.

notice the most, not all


although if you go FI its a completely different story

[H2spencer07]

HP < TQ, but tourque, my best explination is that "umph" that puts u back, its a feeling, not detemined by the tach or spedo, i mean u can go 0-60 faster in an SI than say...a GTI, but i can promise u that the gti will FEEL faster, any 1 agree?

[KingMarineM16a4]

Originally Posted by H2spencer07

HP < TQ, but tourque, my best explination is that "umph" that puts u back, its a feeling, not detemined by the tach or spedo, i mean u can go 0-60 faster in an SI than say...a GTI, but i can promise u that the gti will FEEL faster, any 1 agree?

Let the thread die, read before you post...

[Tom1222]

Originally Posted by H2spencer07

HP < TQ, but tourque, my best explination is that "umph" that puts u back, its a feeling, not detemined by the tach or spedo, i mean u can go 0-60 faster in an SI than say...a GTI, but i can promise u that the gti will FEEL faster, any 1 agree?

Not quite. I believe the GTI is a tad faster 0-60 than our Si.

[sheek360]

Originally Posted by TJ213

yeah, but as much as I hate to admit it, for good torque there really is no replacement for displacement, there are ways to get around it, like the Si has pretty good torque for a NA 2.0l, but overall revs and HP are more flexible milage wise most of the time IMO.

notice the most, not all


although if you go FI its a completely different story

i totally see where ur coming from, but to just increase displacement without head work, higher compression pistons, stronger valve springs, cams etc would be a waste of cash. but yeah, a quick purge and a 50 shot will cure some tq issues