help settle a dispute. FG2 vs. FA5

***nycclaye*** · 05-21-2007, 03:31 PM

Ok, so I went to a shop today and theres this guy there with a TW 07 FA5. I have a TW 07 FG2 w/ AEM CAI. He heard my car and he asked what I had done. I told em, and he said "maybe now yours can keep up with mine". I kindly laughed at him and reminded him that our cars have the SAME ENGINE, my suspension's different than his (Multi-link/Macpherson vs. Independent), and that it's more likely a drivers race.

His claim: "I've killed other coupe's like yours and I'm only stock."
My reply: "Thursday's track day, so let's meet here at 6 and we'll take em to the track"

He agreed, now here's the question. Outside of tailing him on the way home and watching how he shifts (I think I could outshift him w/o a R arm and only 3 fingers on the left had to drive with), statistically which car is faster from stock? Both of us have all season tires (damn Ohio weather), he's stock (yes I checked the hood and he checked mine), I've got more track time both auto-x and strip than the average person, and he's only 17!!! granted 24's not too far off from that, but who do ya'll think will win...

spocheld · 05-21-2007, 03:37 PM

The 4 door only weighs 60 lbs more, and car and driver said they virtually are identical in handling and performance. You "should" edge him out as a result of the intake, but for someone to think a FA5 is somehow faster than the FG2 is just idiotic. If he beat some FG2's it's because they probably didn't know how to shift very well or had some major wheel spin or something, it's not because his car is faster. That in and of itself shows how ignorant he is.

JRM_FG2 · 05-21-2007, 03:40 PM

hes just a cocky 17 year old, since you have more exp. you should take him

[IVI] · 05-21-2007, 03:55 PM

He's lame and you'll never see him again. Let it go.

***nycclaye*** · 05-21-2007, 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by [IVI]

He's lame and you'll never see him again. Let it go.

hope not, but here in Augusta, gA there's not many Si's. especially since it's a military/college town, I'm sure he'll pop up somewhere. I just hate how it gives ppl that care about tuning, modding, and have a devine passion to the Art & Style of racing a bad name. It's hard enough to drive w/o someone challenging me in that car, but I just wish you had to have a mental screening for maturity prior to the purchase of certain cars.

MutantCheese · 05-21-2007, 04:01 PM

rmfa · 05-21-2007, 04:03 PM

The answer = it is a DRIVER'S RACE. PERIOD.

07si sedan · 05-21-2007, 04:06 PM

pretty stupid IMO. its a drivers race. if your driving skills and body weight were even you should win. the sedan is 60lbs heavier and you have an intake. unless his car is some factory freak?

CraigSi4 · 05-21-2007, 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nycclaye

Ok, so I went to a shop today and theres this guy there with a TW 07 FA5. I have a TW 07 FG2 w/ AEM CAI. He heard my car and he asked what I had done. I told em, and he said "maybe now yours can keep up with mine". I kindly laughed at him and reminded him that our cars have the SAME ENGINE, my suspension's different than his (Multi-link/Macpherson vs. Independent), and that it's more likely a drivers race.

His claim: "I've killed other coupe's like yours and I'm only stock."
My reply: "Thursday's track day, so let's meet here at 6 and we'll take em to the track"

He agreed, now here's the question. Outside of tailing him on the way home and watching how he shifts (I think I could outshift him w/o a R arm and only 3 fingers on the left had to drive with), statistically which car is faster from stock? Both of us have all season tires (damn Ohio weather), he's stock (yes I checked the hood and he checked mine), I've got more track time both auto-x and strip than the average person, and he's only 17!!! granted 24's not too far off from that, but who do ya'll think will win...

haha shifting without a right arm or just 3 fingers reminds me of this streetfire vid. watch the part where he shifts with his foot hahah http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...1d013d364b.htm

JMAC303 · 05-21-2007, 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by [IVI]

He's lame and you'll never see him again. Let it go.

Best response ever.

***nycclaye*** · 05-21-2007, 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CraigSi4

haha shifting without a right arm or just 3 fingers reminds me of this streetfire vid. watch the part where he shifts with his foot hahah http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...1d013d364b.htm

LMAO +1

I figure'd it'd be a drivers race but like I said, I hate when "kids" do stuff like that.

**Yodums** · 05-21-2007, 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nycclaye

... that it's more likely a drivers race.

You answered your own question.

The differences in weight and you having a CAI will have hardly any effect on the situation. It'll all boil down to how you launch and shift.

MICKEY · 05-21-2007, 04:19 PM

"Ask any racer, any real racer. It doesn't matter if you win by an inch or a mile; winning's winning." DOM

yeah i agree its all drivers race...and boy theres alot of new si owners who dont know how to drive...not all though

CraigSi4 · 05-21-2007, 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nycclaye

LMAO +1

I figure'd it'd be a drivers race but like I said, I hate when "kids" do stuff like that.

haha thanks man, i saw it yesterday and laughed my ass off. shifting with ur foot would b the funniest thing ever, and some1 finally did it.

***HanCivicSI*** · 05-21-2007, 04:24 PM

Take some weight off the car, just to put the nail in the coffin.

06BlackSi · 05-21-2007, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CraigSi4

haha shifting without a right arm or just 3 fingers reminds me of this streetfire vid. watch the part where he shifts with his foot hahah http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...1d013d364b.htm

that guy looks like yao ming...

and on topic... fg2 will RAPE the FA5

jk.. we all know the FA5 is faster... especially the JDM spec conversion FA5. that thing is mad fast yo!

Jardiniboy · 05-21-2007, 05:29 PM

Are you sure he was racing a FG2 and not a FG1?

But with identical drivers the FG2 should win because of weight and the FG2 has the AEM CAI.

***nycclaye*** · 05-21-2007, 05:52 PM

Yea, it's def an FG2. how do I knw? IT'S MINEZ!!

SIcBoy · 05-21-2007, 05:58 PM

was he a fat guy or was he skinny

dude take it to the track and race your heart out
it a drivers race
and he must be b***shi*in talkin he has beat
alot of other fg2
my anus, he prolly "granny shift and doesnt double clutch"

SIcBoy · 05-21-2007, 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CraigSi4

haha shifting without a right arm or just 3 fingers reminds me of this streetfire vid. watch the part where he shifts with his foot hahah http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...1d013d364b.htm

shiftin with his foot
lmao

05-21-2007, 03:31 PM	#1 (permalink)
*nycclaye* Whaaaaaaaaaaaaapsssh!!!!! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Ft. Gordon, GA and Cols, OH Age: 26 Posts: 2,767 Nick iTrader: 1 / 100%	help settle a dispute. FG2 vs. FA5 Ok, so I went to a shop today and theres this guy there with a TW 07 FA5. I have a TW 07 FG2 w/ AEM CAI. He heard my car and he asked what I had done. I told em, and he said "maybe now yours can keep up with mine". I kindly laughed at him and reminded him that our cars have the SAME ENGINE, my suspension's different than his (Multi-link/Macpherson vs. Independent), and that it's more likely a drivers race. His claim: "I've killed other coupe's like yours and I'm only stock." My reply: "Thursday's track day, so let's meet here at 6 and we'll take em to the track" He agreed, now here's the question. Outside of tailing him on the way home and watching how he shifts (I think I could outshift him w/o a R arm and only 3 fingers on the left had to drive with), statistically which car is faster from stock? Both of us have all season tires (damn Ohio weather), he's stock (yes I checked the hood and he checked mine), I've got more track time both auto-x and strip than the average person, and he's only 17!!! granted 24's not too far off from that, but who do ya'll think will win...

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JRM_FG2 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: San Antonio Age: 22 Posts: 1,254 Jason iTrader: 21 / 100%	hes just a cocky 17 year old, since you have more exp. you should take him

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rmfa Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Austin, TX Age: 27 Posts: 3,463 Ronnie iTrader: 2 / 100%	The answer = it is a DRIVER'S RACE. PERIOD.

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07si sedan Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Dsm IA Posts: 851 iTrader: 1 / 100%	pretty stupid IMO. its a drivers race. if your driving skills and body weight were even you should win. the sedan is 60lbs heavier and you have an intake. unless his car is some factory freak?

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MICKEY Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Chicago-burbs Posts: 183 iTrader: 0 / 0%	"Ask any racer, any real racer. It doesn't matter if you win by an inch or a mile; winning's winning." DOM yeah i agree its all drivers race...and boy theres alot of new si owners who dont know how to drive...not all though

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*HanCivicSI* Blouch Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Gulf Coast, AL Age: 32 Posts: 871 G iTrader: 1 / 100%	Take some weight off the car, just to put the nail in the coffin.

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*nycclaye* Whaaaaaaaaaaaaapsssh!!!!! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Ft. Gordon, GA and Cols, OH Age: 26 Posts: 2,767 Nick iTrader: 1 / 100%	Yea, it's def an FG2. how do I knw? IT'S MINEZ!!

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SIcBoy Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: peoria az Age: 24 Posts: 3,416 jr iTrader: 3 / 100%	was he a fat guy or was he skinny dude take it to the track and race your heart out it a drivers race and he must be b**shiin talkin he has beat alot of other fg2 my anus, he prolly "granny shift and doesnt double clutch"