06 Monte Carlo SS vs 07 SI Sedan

MarcDavid · 03-12-2007, 12:00 PM

From 50mph up through 3rd gear i was holding him off. Even pulled on him a little, maybe he wasn’t trying all that hard. I spoke with the dood after and he's like "nice SI". I reply "Nice SS". So we start from a standstill, and he pulls me through 1st and 2nd about a car len, and 3rd and fourth didn’t look much more promising. So we gave the thumbs up and that was the end.

http://www.chevrolet.com/montecarlo/#montecarlo-ss

303HP, and a slugh box. I need an I/H/E/Hondata

SiTim · 03-12-2007, 12:19 PM

My buddy has a 06 monte carlo ss and me stock 07 si, when we raced it was about even... He got me about a car length from the launch due to my wheel spin, from there on out he didnt pull on me anymore, we shut down at 85mph.. He was certain that he would walk all over me.. Perhaps next time when I have better tires it will have a better outcome..

MarcDavid · 03-12-2007, 12:23 PM

Maybe he wasn't stock, but i had a good launch and everything, shifted perfect 1st and 2nd. he was 1/2 a car by first and a car by 2nd.

Ahh well, better luck next time

SiTim · 03-12-2007, 12:28 PM

Did you keep up with him or did he walk on you?

MarcDavid · 03-12-2007, 12:33 PM

2nd to 3rd gear on a roll from like 40 to 80 he couldnt keep up, but from a digg through 1st and 2nd only he put a car on me, probably would of been better to go at it through 4 gears to see where we would be at.

Where we ran at wasnt to long of an area.

SiTim · 03-12-2007, 12:41 PM

well it wasnt that bad.. remember that the torque and automatic transmission is what got you from the dig...

MarcDavid · 03-12-2007, 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SiTim

well it wasnt that bad.. remember that the torque and automatic transmission is what got you from the dig...

Very true. After something like that though, it really makes me want to upgrade. Funny how to think i was somewhat overwhelmed by this SI's power cause it had so much more then my other 2. Now of course, its not fast enough!

***xtant21*** · 03-12-2007, 02:11 PM

Aren't we once again comparing apples and oranges though?

2.0L I4 @ 197hp vs. 5.3L V8 @ 303hp.

I know the Monte is definitely heavier but with more than 2 times the size engine...it should walk our tiny Si past the finish line. To know that the Si can at the very least hang with this thing...speaks volumes.

MarcDavid · 03-12-2007, 02:12 PM

Yeah I thought the weight and the slush box would work to my advantage. I thought wrong

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SiTim · 03-12-2007, 02:12 PM

I know the feeling.. Cant wait till I mod the car..

bulletSisedan · 03-12-2007, 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xtant21

Aren't we once again comparing apples and oranges though?

2.0L I4 @ 197hp vs. 5.3L V8 @ 303hp.

I know the Monte is definitely heavier but with more than 2 times the size engine...it should walk our tiny Si past the finish line. To know that the Si can at the very least hang with this thing...speaks volumes.

I think there really is nothing else to compare our SI to. so we catch our selves looking at under powered heavy weight crap that cost more and uses more gas. to our equally porportioned Si that beats or keeps up with only half or less the engine.

MarcDavid · 03-12-2007, 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bulletSisedan

I think there really is nothing else to compare our SI to. so we catch our selves looking at under powered heavy weight crap that cost more and uses more gas. to our equally porportioned Si that beats or keeps up with only half or less the engine.

LOL thats another angle to look at it from

***xtant21*** · 03-12-2007, 03:19 PM

Bang for the buck...hands down has to go to the Si. It's right at the magical 100hp per liter mark; it is good on gas considering the amount of power it does have and it handles really well.

Monte Carlo - big; heavy; expensive; gas hog; resale...yeah righ; doesn't win by much.

Mazdaspeed 3 - more power, albeit turbo (super?) charged; decent on price; ok on gas; resale will not equal an Si in 5 years. Whips our butt on the track; loses in overall cost of ownership. Reliability is sketchy.

Toyota - ummm...does Toyota even make a worthwhile car anymore; or are they still just making cars for the soccer mom and dad only?

Mustang - big; heavy; real V8 power; gas hog; resale sketchy at best; dime-a-dozen.

Evo - well...Evo is cool; fast; handles well; ok on gas; best competitor TCO-wise to the Si but still kind of boring - it is a hyped-up lancer; not cheap.

VW GTI - turbo; ok on gas; known for some quality issues (electrical mostly) not quite as good as Si on TOC. Needs the turbo to be quick.

Overall some of these cars are very nice cars and would look well in anyones driveway. I'm not hating on any of them...they are all nice. But, for me...my money and my weighing the options; nothing seems to make as much sense as the Si. I drove all of these cars and still bought the Si (and an EX for daily driving...but that's besides the point). The Si does not hand out huge defeat in any one area...but what it does do is score high in all areas. Something the other cars can't really claim.

To me...the Si really is the best bang for the buck.

TOC = Total Cost of Ownership (Gas, Repair, Maintenance, Fuel, Insurance, Etc...)

MarcDavid · 03-12-2007, 03:41 PM

I agree, at the price point and value (not to mention handling). Civic Si is the best in class. I always try to upgrade every few years, and I can't seem to stop buying the SI.

I can't see paying an extra 6k for a Monte Carlo SS. To each is their own though. However I think the next car has to be something different before i get my LIC suspended.

R3DL1NETHIZ23 · 03-15-2007, 10:03 PM

good shit

Raging · 03-15-2007, 10:44 PM

She is so new, I believe we haven't even come close to this motors full maximum performance potential. I can't wait, but time will tell as the aftermarket begins to grow toward the new Si where we stand!!

***Special Ringpop*** · 03-16-2007, 12:43 AM

I don't consider any car in Chevy's line up worth of an SS badge.

ESPECIALLY with an automatic, let alone a 4-speed automatic.

03-12-2007, 12:00 PM	#1 (permalink)
MarcDavid Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Orlando Age: 31 Posts: 203 Marc iTrader: 0 / 0%	06 Monte Carlo SS vs 07 SI Sedan From 50mph up through 3rd gear i was holding him off. Even pulled on him a little, maybe he wasn’t trying all that hard. I spoke with the dood after and he's like "nice SI". I reply "Nice SS". So we start from a standstill, and he pulls me through 1st and 2nd about a car len, and 3rd and fourth didn’t look much more promising. So we gave the thumbs up and that was the end. http://www.chevrolet.com/montecarlo/#montecarlo-ss 303HP, and a slugh box. I need an I/H/E/Hondata

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SiTim Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Bossier City LA Posts: 123 Tim iTrader: 0 / 0%	My buddy has a 06 monte carlo ss and me stock 07 si, when we raced it was about even... He got me about a car length from the launch due to my wheel spin, from there on out he didnt pull on me anymore, we shut down at 85mph.. He was certain that he would walk all over me.. Perhaps next time when I have better tires it will have a better outcome..

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MarcDavid Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Orlando Age: 31 Posts: 203 Marc iTrader: 0 / 0%	Maybe he wasn't stock, but i had a good launch and everything, shifted perfect 1st and 2nd. he was 1/2 a car by first and a car by 2nd. Ahh well, better luck next time

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SiTim Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Bossier City LA Posts: 123 Tim iTrader: 0 / 0%	Did you keep up with him or did he walk on you?

03-12-2007, 12:33 PM	#5 (permalink)
MarcDavid Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Orlando Age: 31 Posts: 203 Marc iTrader: 0 / 0%	2nd to 3rd gear on a roll from like 40 to 80 he couldnt keep up, but from a digg through 1st and 2nd only he put a car on me, probably would of been better to go at it through 4 gears to see where we would be at. Where we ran at wasnt to long of an area.

03-12-2007, 12:41 PM	#6 (permalink)
SiTim Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Bossier City LA Posts: 123 Tim iTrader: 0 / 0%	well it wasnt that bad.. remember that the torque and automatic transmission is what got you from the dig...

03-12-2007, 02:11 PM	#8 (permalink)
*xtant21* Philawarepragacago Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: South Florida Posts: 817 Bill iTrader: 0 / 0%	Aren't we once again comparing apples and oranges though? 2.0L I4 @ 197hp vs. 5.3L V8 @ 303hp. I know the Monte is definitely heavier but with more than 2 times the size engine...it should walk our tiny Si past the finish line. To know that the Si can at the very least hang with this thing...speaks volumes.

03-12-2007, 02:12 PM	#9 (permalink)
MarcDavid Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Orlando Age: 31 Posts: 203 Marc iTrader: 0 / 0%	Yeah I thought the weight and the slush box would work to my advantage. I thought wrong .

03-12-2007, 02:12 PM	#10 (permalink)
SiTim Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Bossier City LA Posts: 123 Tim iTrader: 0 / 0%	I know the feeling.. Cant wait till I mod the car..

03-12-2007, 03:19 PM	#13 (permalink)
*xtant21* Philawarepragacago Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: South Florida Posts: 817 Bill iTrader: 0 / 0%	Bang for the buck...hands down has to go to the Si. It's right at the magical 100hp per liter mark; it is good on gas considering the amount of power it does have and it handles really well. Monte Carlo - big; heavy; expensive; gas hog; resale...yeah righ; doesn't win by much. Mazdaspeed 3 - more power, albeit turbo (super?) charged; decent on price; ok on gas; resale will not equal an Si in 5 years. Whips our butt on the track; loses in overall cost of ownership. Reliability is sketchy. Toyota - ummm...does Toyota even make a worthwhile car anymore; or are they still just making cars for the soccer mom and dad only? Mustang - big; heavy; real V8 power; gas hog; resale sketchy at best; dime-a-dozen. Evo - well...Evo is cool; fast; handles well; ok on gas; best competitor TCO-wise to the Si but still kind of boring - it is a hyped-up lancer; not cheap. VW GTI - turbo; ok on gas; known for some quality issues (electrical mostly) not quite as good as Si on TOC. Needs the turbo to be quick. Overall some of these cars are very nice cars and would look well in anyones driveway. I'm not hating on any of them...they are all nice. But, for me...my money and my weighing the options; nothing seems to make as much sense as the Si. I drove all of these cars and still bought the Si (and an EX for daily driving...but that's besides the point). The Si does not hand out huge defeat in any one area...but what it does do is score high in all areas. Something the other cars can't really claim. To me...the Si really is the best bang for the buck. TOC = Total Cost of Ownership (Gas, Repair, Maintenance, Fuel, Insurance, Etc...)

03-12-2007, 03:41 PM	#14 (permalink)
MarcDavid Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Orlando Age: 31 Posts: 203 Marc iTrader: 0 / 0%	I agree, at the price point and value (not to mention handling). Civic Si is the best in class. I always try to upgrade every few years, and I can't seem to stop buying the SI. I can't see paying an extra 6k for a Monte Carlo SS. To each is their own though. However I think the next car has to be something different before i get my LIC suspended.

03-15-2007, 10:03 PM	#15 (permalink)
R3DL1NETHIZ23 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 114 iTrader: 0 / 0%	good shit

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Raging Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Robins AFB, GA Posts: 405 iTrader: 0 / 0%	She is so new, I believe we haven't even come close to this motors full maximum performance potential. I can't wait, but time will tell as the aftermarket begins to grow toward the new Si where we stand!!

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*Special Ringpop* VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Minneapolis, MN Age: 22 Posts: 7,359 Name: Mike iTrader: 0 / 0%	I don't consider any car in Chevy's line up worth of an SS badge. ESPECIALLY with an automatic, let alone a 4-speed automatic.