Went to the Track!

jdenmark · 08-25-2011, 10:35 PM

so i went to the track for the first time ever...basic FA5 with an AEM short ram. my best run was like 10.1 at 71 mph. said my friend who watched the board.

any advice to make this faster without adding parts? like good track strategy or shift timing or something?

also on my second run first gear popped out...? dont know why but i wasnt going that fast yet. anyone know why this happened?

testify · 08-25-2011, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by jdenmark

also on my second run first gear popped out...? dont know why but i wasnt going that fast yet. anyone know why this happened?

Were you getting lots of wheel hop when this happened? Was the car 'shaking' right before it popped out?

jdenmark · 08-25-2011, 10:41 PM

yeah it was bouncing a decent amount

testify · 08-25-2011, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by jdenmark

yeah it was bouncing a decent amount

That is why it popped out. That wheel hop is a VERY bad thing. You will start to break things if you wheel hop, you will snap motor and trans mounts, you will snap axles, you will blow transmissions. Next time it 'hops', get out of the throttle immediately.

jdenmark · 08-25-2011, 10:52 PM

cool. how do i avoid that next time?

testify · 08-25-2011, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jdenmark

cool. how do i avoid that next time?

Well, its hard to avoid it because at a drag strip, there is a ton of sticky rubber that has been left on the track. This causes a lot more 'grip' than if you were to launch on bare pavement. Honestly, you'd probably have to avoid wheelspin on launch, which is a slow way to launch, or get upgraded motor mounts.

jdenmark · 08-25-2011, 10:59 PM

like boomba mounts or something? what actually causes wheel hop like that...just sticky tracks?

testify · 08-25-2011, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by jdenmark

like boomba mounts or something? what actually causes wheel hop like that...just sticky tracks?

Yes, its from increased traction combined with lots of engine movement. The OEM mounts are really soft, so when you increase grip, the engine jerks back and forth on the launch, and this is the result. I get a bit of wheelhop just from running sticky tires, I can only imagine how much worse it must be when you are launching on a surface that is 1 inch thick race rubber.

jdenmark · 08-25-2011, 11:04 PM

this place is closing down on monday...wish i knew about it before today

invsta · 08-26-2011, 12:30 AM

You need to let air out of your front tires.

HabaneroSI860 · 08-26-2011, 12:47 AM

thats how i hurt my transmission, when i brought it to the dealership they thought it would be a good idea to beat on it while driving it...essentially destroying the final drive and starting a 3 month long dispute! I got my way though, wheel hop is your worst enemy

jdenmark · 08-26-2011, 10:50 AM

so next time run like 25 psi in the front tires or something like that?

any ideas on how to make the time faster?

testify · 08-26-2011, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by jdenmark

so next time run like 25 psi in the front tires or something like that?

any ideas on how to make the time faster?

Well, what brand/model/size tires are you running. You won't necessarily see any benefits from dropping pressures in the OEM Michelins.

The best way to turn faster times is the driver mod.....practice, practice, practice.

invsta · 08-26-2011, 11:16 PM

do. not. run. slicks. on. your. stock. civic. You will destrooooy everything. Let a little bit of air out of your stockies, and for god sakes, learn how to feather the clutch so that you don't burnout like a noob.

jdenmark · 08-27-2011, 02:25 PM

ive got Continental Extreme DWS tires.maybe 2 months old.

jdenmark · 08-27-2011, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by invsta

do. not. run. slicks. on. your. stock. civic. You will destrooooy everything. Let a little bit of air out of your stockies, and for god sakes, learn how to feather the clutch so that you don't burnout like a noob.

so explain how to do that if you please

applefrk · 08-27-2011, 03:21 PM

look up pre-loading. involves feathering the clutch and holing your ebrake....

testify · 08-27-2011, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by jdenmark

so explain how to do that if you please

Don't just drop the clutch, slowly let the clutch out, and really, only let it out like halfway with the clutch slipping a bit until you get going. Launching a car is not all black and white, it takes a bit of finesse.

invsta · 08-29-2011, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by testify

Don't just drop the clutch, slowly let the clutch out, and really, only let it out like halfway with the clutch slipping a bit until you get going. Launching a car is not all black and white, it takes a bit of finesse.

thx testify. OP, you're basically slipping the clutch, but in a good way. As you practice, your feather will last shorter and shorter until you can launch at maximum velocity without burning out. Perfection comes as you know your car better.

stallion07 · 08-29-2011, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by jdenmark

so explain how to do that if you please

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jdenmark Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Raleigh, North Carolina Posts: 345 Jordan Denmark	yeah it was bouncing a decent amount

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jdenmark Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Raleigh, North Carolina Posts: 345 Jordan Denmark	cool. how do i avoid that next time?

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jdenmark Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Raleigh, North Carolina Posts: 345 Jordan Denmark	like boomba mounts or something? what actually causes wheel hop like that...just sticky tracks?

08-25-2011, 11:04 PM	#9 (permalink)
jdenmark Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Raleigh, North Carolina Posts: 345 Jordan Denmark	this place is closing down on monday...wish i knew about it before today

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invsta Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Cali Posts: 1,561 invsta	You need to let air out of your front tires.

08-26-2011, 12:47 AM	#11 (permalink)
HabaneroSI860 Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Torrington, CT Posts: 46 Anthony Copertino	thats how i hurt my transmission, when i brought it to the dealership they thought it would be a good idea to beat on it while driving it...essentially destroying the final drive and starting a 3 month long dispute! I got my way though, wheel hop is your worst enemy

08-26-2011, 10:50 AM	#12 (permalink)
jdenmark Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Raleigh, North Carolina Posts: 345 Jordan Denmark	so next time run like 25 psi in the front tires or something like that? any ideas on how to make the time faster?

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invsta Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Cali Posts: 1,561 invsta	do. not. run. slicks. on. your. stock. civic. You will destrooooy everything. Let a little bit of air out of your stockies, and for god sakes, learn how to feather the clutch so that you don't burnout like a noob.

08-27-2011, 02:25 PM	#15 (permalink)
jdenmark Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Raleigh, North Carolina Posts: 345 Jordan Denmark	ive got Continental Extreme DWS tires.maybe 2 months old.

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