Si vs Redline?

adamhoud · 11-07-2006, 09:56 PM

Anyone have any info on this? A person I know wants to race me with his stock redline, all I have is intake and exhaust.

**atruhondagrl** · 11-07-2006, 10:08 PM

Take a look here: Shootout

spideryk · 11-07-2006, 10:09 PM

u'll probly lose, it weighs less and has more power. i saw somewhere one dudes redline dynoed around 250hp stock

RealDealTarheel · 11-07-2006, 10:12 PM

They dyno anywhere from 200-245 stock. The average LSJ dyno is around 215 in stock form.

caveman74 · 11-07-2006, 10:19 PM

Lets not start another Redline war...

SiRyan · 11-08-2006, 01:14 AM

NA vs. FI = Not Fair. I'd say get a SC and race him, it would be fair enough. Or remove the Redlines SC.

2000civic · 11-08-2006, 02:11 AM

Well my best friend is planning on buying an Ion Redline so i hear about the car all the time and probibly read as many reviews about it as the Si, well not that much lol, and i have went on a test drive with him. I belive that the Ion Redline was under rated from the factory. The car regularly dynos around 215 whp, witch means that the engine hp probibly should have been rated at around 245 hp. Depending on the driver, and this is a huge thing because the car is very hard to launch due to the massive amount of instant tourqe delivered from the supercharger, I have seen stock 1/4 time s range from 14.3 to 15.5. ussually around a 14.5 to a 14.7 though. Yes the Si does handle much better from what I have seen. But on a strait line 2 good drivers, it would be close but you would probibly loose. And to the comment about taking away the ions supercharger, in that case you would need to take away the Si's i-VTEC, then it be even again and it would still be about the same race. Ahh that was to long, hope it helps though.

sheek360 · 11-08-2006, 06:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adamhoud

Anyone have any info on this? A person I know wants to race me with his stock redline, all I have is intake and exhaust.

its not a fair race bro, ask em to spot u some lenghths, or atleast give u the spliff.

adamhoud · 11-08-2006, 11:04 AM

Well I'm planning on putting a 75 shot of NOS in within the next two weeks, so I think I could take him easily with that.

Shark Tek · 11-08-2006, 11:17 AM

Just race him that is the only way that you know if you can beat one.

I dying to race these cars

Cobalt SS S/C
Mini Cooper with Works package (205hp)
GTI or Audi A3 Turbo
Eclipse V6 last gen
Mustang GT 1996 Gen

Avenger · 11-08-2006, 12:49 PM

Eclipse V6 = SI win

blackhawk black si · 11-08-2006, 01:29 PM

It is never a fair race when one car is all motor and another forced induction wait. the car stock dynoes at about 212 which is about 20 hp more than youe car. A few bolt ons and you should be able to hang intake exhaust headers reflash hondata heatshield gasket. If only they made a kpro for the SI we could get the TSX cams with our intake manifold that would be sweet. but yea as of now he will beat you no need to worry you have an all motor car that is still quick

sheek360 · 11-08-2006, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adamhoud

Well I'm planning on putting a 75 shot of NOS in within the next two weeks, so I think I could take him easily with that.

ull kill a stock redline if u get the 75 shot!

BoneStock · 11-08-2006, 02:15 PM

just do it and find out yourself

KingMarineM16a4 · 11-08-2006, 04:00 PM

Redline will eat you whole... 260hp, 260tq, rwd, weighting as much as the si, you die.

sheek360 · 11-08-2006, 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KingMarineM16a4

Redline will eat you whole... 260hp, 260tq, rwd, weighting as much as the si, you die.

RL= fwd and it only has 220-ish whp and 190-ish wtq

SS/SC · 11-08-2006, 06:48 PM

http://www.caranddriver.com/features...tning-lap.html

The Ion Redline is not in this article but the Cobalt SS/SC is, pretty much the same car. The Cobalt leaves the Si and GTI in its dust! Thoughts to why?

sheek360 · 11-08-2006, 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SS/SC

http://www.caranddriver.com/features...tning-lap.html

The Ion Redline is not in this article but the Cobalt SS/SC is, pretty much the same car. The Cobalt leaves the Si and GTI in its dust! Thoughts to why?

dunno, why?

spocheld · 11-08-2006, 07:07 PM

I think it would be a good race with your boltons, probably a drivers race. The redline weights about 100 more lbs than the Si, but the rear wheel drive will give him a good hole shot.

sheek360 · 11-08-2006, 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spocheld

I think it would be a good race with your boltons, probably a drivers race. The redline weights about 100 more lbs than the Si, but the rear wheel drive will give him a good hole shot.

WTF?!? The redline is FWD and is lighter!

11-07-2006, 09:56 PM	#1 (permalink)
adamhoud Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 1,030 Adam iTrader: 3 / 100%	Si vs Redline? Anyone have any info on this? A person I know wants to race me with his stock redline, all I have is intake and exhaust.

11-07-2006, 10:08 PM	#2 (permalink)
atruhondagrl Kneel before Zod! Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 23,971 General Zod iTrader: 23 / 100%	Take a look here: Shootout __________________ Rise before zod. AWD is RWD with training wheels.

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Shark Tek Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 710 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Just race him that is the only way that you know if you can beat one. I dying to race these cars Cobalt SS S/C Mini Cooper with Works package (205hp) GTI or Audi A3 Turbo Eclipse V6 last gen Mustang GT 1996 Gen

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2000civic Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Rancho Cucamunga,California Age: 20 Posts: 1,552 Robert iTrader: 0 / 0%	Well my best friend is planning on buying an Ion Redline so i hear about the car all the time and probibly read as many reviews about it as the Si, well not that much lol, and i have went on a test drive with him. I belive that the Ion Redline was under rated from the factory. The car regularly dynos around 215 whp, witch means that the engine hp probibly should have been rated at around 245 hp. Depending on the driver, and this is a huge thing because the car is very hard to launch due to the massive amount of instant tourqe delivered from the supercharger, I have seen stock 1/4 time s range from 14.3 to 15.5. ussually around a 14.5 to a 14.7 though. Yes the Si does handle much better from what I have seen. But on a strait line 2 good drivers, it would be close but you would probibly loose. And to the comment about taking away the ions supercharger, in that case you would need to take away the Si's i-VTEC, then it be even again and it would still be about the same race. Ahh that was to long, hope it helps though.

11-08-2006, 11:04 AM	#9 (permalink)
adamhoud Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 1,030 Adam iTrader: 3 / 100%	Well I'm planning on putting a 75 shot of NOS in within the next two weeks, so I think I could take him easily with that.

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blackhawk black si Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: So Cal Posts: 499 iTrader: 0 / 0%	It is never a fair race when one car is all motor and another forced induction wait. the car stock dynoes at about 212 which is about 20 hp more than youe car. A few bolt ons and you should be able to hang intake exhaust headers reflash hondata heatshield gasket. If only they made a kpro for the SI we could get the TSX cams with our intake manifold that would be sweet. but yea as of now he will beat you no need to worry you have an all motor car that is still quick

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BoneStock Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Sactown, CAli Posts: 467 Tomz iTrader: 0 / 0%	just do it and find out yourself

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11-08-2006, 07:07 PM	#19 (permalink)
spocheld Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Fresno, CA Age: 25 Posts: 1,358 Jeff iTrader: 2 / 100%	I think it would be a good race with your boltons, probably a drivers race. The redline weights about 100 more lbs than the Si, but the rear wheel drive will give him a good hole shot.