06 Si vs. Cobalt SS s/c'd

[sickyute]

205 at 12 psi.....TWELVE WHOLE PSI...at crank....but to theor credit the car some how dynos at 220whp.

comptech at 11 psi stage 3 is crushing 400whp.

[fullthrottle]

Originally Posted by HAQER

This is hillarious. I don't think this is ever going to end. These guys obviously love their Saturns and we love our Hondas, lets just leave it at that. I would never buy a Saturn and by the way they are talking, they would probably never buy a Honda. It's pointless to keep arguing about this.

I guess reliability means a little more to us while their stock SC and torque mean more to them. That's fine. Everyone has their own reasons for buying a car.

So, let's look at some facts real quick.

06 Civic Si - 197hp All Motor
06 Ion Redline - 205hp Turbocharged (pulled from Saturn website)

The redline is making 8hp more at the crank WITH A SUPERCHARGER and these guys are trying to say its a superior motor. Obviously not or it would be making a lot more hp with the supercharger. Yes, or course it has more torque, but that's gonna happen when you supercharge a motor.

Even with the supercharger, it still costs less than an Si, because it's a piece of $hit. Yes, your Saturn is faster than my car stock but that's only due to the fact that it's supercharged, it has nothing to do with the motor.

In the end of the day, you guys are still driving a SATURN, which until recently have been complete pieces of shit. Honda's have been great cars for years.

Sorry if I offended any Saturn owners, but you can't come around here talking shit and not hear some yourself.

oh no my civic friend you see ive owned hondas. now heres how i look at it hondas are nice good reliable cars but they're not american. if lets say tomorrow dodge or some one domestic bought honda then id own a honda. but they never will and it will never happen so ill never own a honda again. im very patriotic and i dont believe in buying a forign car unless one of the big 3 is making most of the profits from the sale of the car and parts.

[fullthrottle]

Originally Posted by sickyute

205 at 12 psi.....TWELVE WHOLE PSI...at crank....but to theor credit the car some how dynos at 220whp.

comptech at 11 psi stage 3 is crushing 400whp.

your talking about an all out race car if you want to go there jason whitfield of whitfield racing has a 1,000 WHP cobalt. the GM build book shows how to take the ecotec up to 1,400 hp while being as reliable as possible.

[BLU BY U]

i love solomons!!!! used to wakeboard/kneeboard all the time.

+1 for the MD saturn dude

[BLU BY U]

Originally Posted by fullthrottle

your talking about an all out race car if you want to go there jason whitfield of whitfield racing has a 1,000 WHP cobalt. the GM build book shows how to take the ecotec up to 1,400 hp while being as reliable as possible.

seriously stfu, its old now. no more bickering.

[BLU BY U]

school pwnz me, later fellas

[fullthrottle]

Originally Posted by BLU BY U

school pwnz me, later fellas

awww, honda boy dont get your tighty whities in a bunch now. its all good.

[HAQER]

Originally Posted by fullthrottle

oh no my civic friend you see ive owned hondas. now heres how i look at it hondas are nice good reliable cars but they're not american. if lets say tomorrow dodge or some one domestic bought honda then id own a honda. but they never will and it will never happen so ill never own a honda again. im very patriotic and i dont believe in buying a forign car unless one of the big 3 is making most of the profits from the sale of the car and parts.

That's understandable. At least you gave a good reason for owning a Saturn over a Honda. If you think about it though, you're putting more money in some rich white guy's bank account and I am putting money in a rich Japanese guys bank account. Neither of us are going to ever see any of that money. If it has to do with supporting our economy, I promise you the economy would be the same if you would have bought a Japanese car as opposed to a domestic.

Also, I wouldn't buy a car (or any product for that matter) just because it is American when a foreign company makes a similar car or product that I like more.

I am not going to boycott the PS3 just cuz it's Japanese and get an XBOX360 to support American made stuff. The owner's of these companies aren't going to be affected by me buying or not buying their products.

OK, maybe that's not the same thing, but you get my point.

[fullthrottle]

Originally Posted by HAQER

That's understandable. At least you gave a good reason for owning a Saturn over a Honda. If you think about it though, you're putting more money in some rich white guy's bank account and I am putting money in a rich Japanese guys bank account. Neither of us are going to ever see any of that money. If it has to do with supporting our economy, I promise you the economy would be the same if you would have bought a Japanese car as opposed to a domestic.

Also, I wouldn't buy a car (or any product for that matter) just because it is American when a foreign company makes a similar car or product that I like more.

I am not going to boycott the PS3 just cuz it's Japanese and get an XBOX360 to support American made stuff. The owner's of these companies aren't going to be affected by me buying or not buying their products.

OK, maybe that's not the same thing, but you get my point.

my big thing is at least buying an american car more of that money will be redistributed amongst the american economy more so then buying a honda. but your right either way its making a select few people super rich.


ah well nuf said.

[NickC89]

Originally Posted by fullthrottle

hey dumb ass the bottom end of our motors is forged i think and know it will more then handle it.

I appreciated sheek coming onto our forum and sharing his perspective of RL's and Si's, but why did you have to come to our forum and try to pick fights with us. tough guy eh? or do you just have a small epenis and trying to compensate for it? oh, and this is you....



have a good day.

[fullthrottle]

Originally Posted by NickC89

I appreciated sheek coming onto our forum and sharing his perspective of RL's and Si's, but why did you have to come to our forum and try to pick fights with us. tough guy eh? or do you just have a small epenis and trying to compensate for it? oh, and this is you....



have a good day.

awww dont get pussy hurt because theres a lil clownin going on. hey i see you just got your drivers liscence. did you daddy buy that car for you junior.

[atruhondagrl]

So who's JSip? http://www.redlineforums.com/forums/...-si-right.html

[fullthrottle]

Originally Posted by atruhondagrl

So who's JSip? http://www.redlineforums.com/forums/...-si-right.html

ok guys im done have fun nice having flame war with yas. keep it real see ya honda boy

i havent had this much forum fun in a while.

[atruhondagrl]

All the arguing and one thing can be said after I read through both threads. It pretty much seems to be a drawl. Whether you all are arguing over horsepower, torque or driving skills. Some of you Cobalt/Redline guys are cool. You're thread is just like ours etc. It's nice to see owners of other makes and models on here to add a twist to things. I'd hate to see you go so everyone Redline, Cobalt and Si alike stop bickering please.

It's just tacky.

[Only a R18]

To sum it all up, ss always wins on ss forums and the si always wins on the si forums.

[fullthrottle]

Originally Posted by atruhondagrl

All the arguing and one thing can be said after I read through both threads. It pretty much seems to be a drawl. Whether you all are arguing over horsepower, torque or driving skills. Some of you Cobalt/Redline guys are cool. You're thread is just like ours etc. It's nice to see owners of other makes and models on here to add a twist to things. I'd hate to see you go so everyone Redline, Cobalt and Si alike stop bickering please.

It's just tacky.

ok point taken. on a good note if theres any SI guys in socal that have read this thread. our little group SCRLA does dyno evolutions and such . were honestly a friendly group any of you guys are more then welcome to chill with us if you want. also im nothing like ive been on this thread. im a cool guy. ill admitt i was trolling up this thread for a while. well like i said if you guys wanna have some fun just hit me up via email or pm me on the redlineforums. same screenname over there.

[atruhondagrl]

I'm going to keep my eye on the Redline forum just because it's cool to keep up to date on what the competition is up to. my screen name over there is Urban Legend.

[fullthrottle]

Originally Posted by atruhondagrl

I'm going to keep my eye on the Redline forum just because it's cool to keep up to date on what the competition is up to. my screen name over there is Urban Legend.

sounds good man welcome aboard.

[just a saturn]

Originally Posted by BLU BY U

i love solomons!!!! used to wakeboard/kneeboard all the time.

+1 for the MD saturn dude

Yeah, if you like the water, you'll definetly be happy in MD. And check back in at redlineforums too. If you're close to Pittsburgh, there's a few of us there, both modded and stock. Just when you go back there, beware of the mod spOOner, he takes no shit at all cause we get a ton of trolls all the time, and I don't want to see you guys go. I have a feeling after we get to know each others cars, we will have new-found respect for one another. Peace peeps.

[firmhonda]

I've been on 8thcivic vacation and look what happened.. Okay, here I go.

Originally Posted by fullthrottle

your talking about an all out race car if you want to go there jason whitfield of whitfield racing has a 1,000 WHP cobalt. the GM build book shows how to take the ecotec up to 1,400 hp while being as reliable as possible.

Jason Whitfield is a bad ************ with unlimited money at disposal for his cars. His cobalt pushing that much hp is also a complete overhaul, I watch the speed channel too.
I noticed that he had another cobalt that was pushing a little less hp but was completely covered by warrenty from gm. That, I am 100% envious of and I don't even have an si.

Originally Posted by HAQER

I am not going to boycott the PS3 just cuz it's Japanese and get an XBOX360 to support American made stuff. The owner's of these companies aren't going to be affected by me buying or not buying their products.

I agree with what you were saying in this post.. but for the record.
xbox360 pwns ps3. It doesn't make sense because the ps3 isn't even out yet, and has better tech behind it. But I heart 360. End of story.

And now I would like to nominate the following quote for funniest shit I've read in a while.

Originally Posted by blu by u

yes a stock si vs. some sort of modified whatever. sounds good to me. what would be the point? im not sure. Should i go call my friend with a 10 second all motor 92 hatch? nope, because im not a tool. My dads cousins friends internet penpals mom brother corvette is faster than your car.

terrific.

I don't know why, but that cracked me up.