Jepetto's Complete "Avic D3 Install"

[striker_1818]

Originally Posted by LoadStar

Ok, I have an '08 LX Coupe with the basic OEM radio currently. I just ordered up an AVIC-D3 to replace it (haven't gotten it in yet).

As far as I know, the LX with the basic radio does not have an external amp, and I know it doesn't have the steering wheel controls. What do I need to change/ignore in the first post for my car?

And since there is no external amp, does it matter which of the wiring harnesses I get (the Metra or the Scosche)? If it doesn't, I'll just find someone who sells the whole Scosche "kit" all together and use all of that.

1. no steering wheel controls means you do not need to buy/install the PAC-SWI-PS.
2. The metra harness kit is better than the Scosche harness kit(wire colors match and is better built)
3. You need to buy a scosche double din dash kit. If the interior of your car is ivory/tan, then you need the Earth Taupe Color. If your car has a dark interior, then you need the gray scosche dash kit.
4. You won't be installing the amp wire, so all you need to do is find 4 rca plugs and solder them with the metra harness for the speakers.
5. buy the scosche antenna kit which is 2 bucks.
6. follow the steps throughly
7. enjoy

[TANGRANGER]

1. will this install be the same as if i bought the z3
2. if i had the z3 prof. installed would they be able to integrate my amp.
3. since they would not modify it to be playing dvd while moving, would it be easy for me to adjust it so i could after the install?

Thanks and sorry for the stupid ?'s

[striker_1818]

Originally Posted by TANGRANGER

1. will this install be the same as if i bought the z3
2. if i had the z3 prof. installed would they be able to integrate my amp.
3. since they would not modify it to be playing dvd while moving, would it be easy for me to adjust it so i could after the install?

Thanks and sorry for the stupid ?'s

it should be pretty straight forward.
Try avic411.com or 411avic.com I forgot which one is the right one lol
Read throughout the forums and look for the info you want. The amp integration is just a soldered wire. If you get it professionally done, you will get raped like someone did(he got charged over $150 for just a soldered wire LOL)

[TANGRANGER]

so should i just tell them to install it then do the amp intergration myself after same with the bypass

what do you think
thank you for your time striker

[hiwind]

nice install! i wish i knew how to do this kind of sh*t

[striker_1818]

do it yourself. its pretty easy actually
most shops will cut the oem harness and you will have no clue about it. what you can do is buy the metra kit for the basics. and when you wanna tap wires and you don't know or are scared of soldering or have no tools for that, go to home depot and buy some t-tap connectors. they are 65 cents for h connectors. make sure they are 18-22ga

[TANGRANGER]

so say i do install this and everything works out perfect...

If i reverse it and put it back to stock bf i sell my car....will it be noticeable that i did this stuff to it and is the steering wheel controls reprogramable to stock

Sorry for all the ?'s

o and which gauge would be best b/w the range or is that like a specific part that says it is a connector for b/t 18-22

o and last question....where is the best place to get this metra 70-1722 and the PAC SWI-PS

[striker_1818]

Originally Posted by TANGRANGER

so say i do install this and everything works out perfect...

If i reverse it and put it back to stock bf i sell my car....will it be noticeable that i did this stuff to it and is the steering wheel controls reprogramable to stock

Sorry for all the ?'s

Not at all since you'll be using a harness kit so there will be no splicing. You program the PAC-SWI-PS to get your steering wheel controls(since the gps unit doesnt have the wiring for that).

Originally Posted by TANGRANGER

o and which gauge would be best b/w the range or is that like a specific part that says it is a connector for b/t 18-22

18-22ga

Originally Posted by TANGRANGER

o and last question....where is the best place to get this metra 70-1722 and the PAC SWI-PS

Ebay or Amazon
which ever is cheaper

[Ntruder]

Wow, what an awesome writeup!

Do these Double DIN units not have the separate box for the navigation? The last monitor unit that I owned was about 6 years ago, and it had a separate box that I had to mount under the seat.

[LoadStar]

I haven't been able to find somewhere locally that stocks Metra harnesses. The store that I generally would trust to do decent installs sells Best Kit harnesses - any feedback on those vs. the Scosche?

[striker_1818]

Originally Posted by LoadStar

I haven't been able to find somewhere locally that stocks Metra harnesses. The store that I generally would trust to do decent installs sells Best Kit harnesses - any feedback on those vs. the Scosche?

amazon sells them
You can find the scosche dash kit for 30 bucks shipped on either amazon or ebay.

[LoadStar]

Originally Posted by striker_1818

amazon sells them
You can find the scosche dash kit for 30 bucks shipped on either amazon or ebay.

Yeah, I know, I already have one of the kits on order from ebay that includes the Scosche dash kit, antenna adapter, and wiring harness.

I was kind of hoping that if the Scosche wiring harness isn't usable to find a harness locally that works, rather than go and order one in and wait for that to arrive as well.

[striker_1818]

damn I tried to install my avic-d3 today and I got no sound.
I have a sedan and have no blue/gray wire for me to tap it into the acc. The rest of my connections are good bc i get power, ipod works, pac-swi works, bluetooth works, navi works but no sound...damnit

Oh yeah, I got an 06 ex sedan which means no amp. However, I get no sound from the navi unit.

nvm i got it to work.
This DIY is useless for DX,LX coupes and DX, LX and EX sedans

[LoadStar]

Originally Posted by striker_1818

nvm i got it to work.
This DIY is useless for DX,LX coupes and DX, LX and EX sedans

So instead of just griping, how about providing suggestions for improvement, and so others who have the same car as you can benefit from your experience?

For instance, I'm currently looking at working on an LX coupe, as said above, and I could use any tips you have to provide... as is, knowing that "this DIY is useless" is equally useless.

[daveshin]

I already have D3 installed on my 07 LX coupe.

I did not have this wonderful guide when I had it installed, but it should work fine if instruction is followed carefully.

as for striker, well, he prolly made a mistake somewhere.

cheers.

[striker_1818]

Originally Posted by LoadStar

So instead of just griping, how about providing suggestions for improvement, and so others who have the same car as you can benefit from your experience?

For instance, I'm currently looking at working on an LX coupe, as said above, and I could use any tips you have to provide... as is, knowing that "this DIY is useless" is equally useless.

lol I meant this DIY is useless for dx,lx coupes and non-si Sedans. For the rest, it works perfectly(EX coupe, si coupe and si sedan).
Don't use any RCA connectors. Use the connectors from the power plug and solder them to the metra kit for the speakers.
Let me quote what I posted on the other thread:

Originally Posted by striker_1818

Well, some people will follow the DIY on here about the D3 installation and get Frustrated because of the no sound and trying their hardest to find the amp wire. Probably disassamble everything and taking the car apart to find that amp wire to get the speakers to work. However, when putting RCAs from the factory speakers and getting them to work with a HU, the power from the stock harness(with no amp) will not be sufficient to turn on the RCA connectors thus you will have no sound. So, by reading the manual and testing with a multimeter for a 12v constant when the radio is on, I found out you just have to connect the wires from the power cord(aftermarket unit power plug) directly to the oem plug. In other words, whenever you're installing an aftermarket HU or aftermarket navigation unit and you have no amp from the factory, you wil have to look at the power plug and find the following wires since they are universal:
(Aside from the red, yellow, orange/white and black) you will see more 8 wires:
1- white - positive front
2. white/black - negative front
3. Gray - positive front
4. Grey/black - negative front
5. Green - positive rear
6. Green/black - negative rear
7. violet - positive rear
8. violet/black - negative rear.

If you have an aftermarket subwoofer already installed professionaly, you have to know which one is positive and which is negative. You will have two from each(at 2 ohms each subwoofer). Combine the two positive and connect the two wires(usually green or red) to the violet wire from the power plug on the aftermarket HU. Then, connect the negative wires of the subwoofer(combine them) to the violet/black wire on the power plug(if using a pioneer HU, #7 and #8 are the violet and violet/black wires). If you hook them up to the green and green/black(#5 and #6), you will blow a fuse or short something out.

Originally Posted by striker_1818

Every aftermarket Unit uses RCA connectors and that is used if you have an amplifier from the factory. If you connect RCA directly to the speakers with no amp, there will not be enough power to drive the speakers.

Many cars come with an amplifier but there are others without an amplifier from the factory. That's why you do not use those RCA connectors but use the power plug to connect to the speakers directly(follow instructions from your manual to know which wires you need to use)

[striker_1818]

Originally Posted by daveshin

I already have D3 installed on my 07 LX coupe.

I did not have this wonderful guide when I had it installed, but it should work fine if instruction is followed carefully.

as for striker, well, he prolly made a mistake somewhere.

cheers.

Yup, I made the mistake to think this DIY was universal but it only works for civics with a factory amp.

[LoadStar]

Ok, progress so far...

I understand that the metra harness may be better made, but I have the Scosche harness here, so I'm going to use it and give it a try, at least initially.

I've got the audio leads from the Scosche harness (white, white/black, gray, gray/black, green, green/black, violet, violet/black) connected to the matching color on the black AVIC harness.

Similarly, I've got the yellow, orange-white, and red wires from the Scosche harness connected to the matching colors on the black AVIC harness.

I have left coming out of the Scosche harness: orange/black (labeled "Dimmer Ground"), pink ("TEL"), green/white (unlabeled), black/white ("Amp Lifier [sic] Ground"), black ("Chassis Ground 12V-"), and brown ("Mute").

Similarly, I have coming out of the black AVIC harness the "Parking Brake" seafoam green cable, the "Car Speed Signal Input" pink cable, "Reverse Gear Signal Input" purple/white cable, and black.

Which of these cables do I connect together? Which do not connect at all?

[striker_1818]

Originally Posted by LoadStar

Ok, progress so far...

I understand that the metra harness may be better made, but I have the Scosche harness here, so I'm going to use it and give it a try, at least initially.

I've got the audio leads from the Scosche harness (white, white/black, gray, gray/black, green, green/black, violet, violet/black) connected to the matching color on the black AVIC harness.

Similarly, I've got the yellow, orange-white, and red wires from the Scosche harness connected to the matching colors on the black AVIC harness.

I have left coming out of the Scosche harness: orange/black (labeled "Dimmer Ground"), pink ("TEL"), green/white (unlabeled), black/white ("Amp Lifier [sic] Ground"), black ("Chassis Ground 12V-"), and brown ("Mute").

Similarly, I have coming out of the black AVIC harness the "Parking Brake" seafoam green cable, the "Car Speed Signal Input" pink cable, "Reverse Gear Signal Input" purple/white cable, and black.

Which of these cables do I connect together? Which do not connect at all?

Scosche has a misplaced wire(the acc wire i think) But I just made a few schematic

Here is the Metra kit(looking at it from the front with the wires on the back)


here is an schematic of the avic-d3 plugs(looking at the plug from the back(looking at the wires))

[LoadStar]

Ok, comparing your info to what I have here, it looks like Scosche corrected whatever they had been screwing up, because the ACC (labeled "IGNITION SWITCHED 12V+) on the scosche adapter is in the correct location.

Right next to that on the Scosche harness is a green/white cable, which by referencing the wiring schematics provided in this other thread, matches up with the factory blue/silver wire, which is the car speed signal input. So - the AVIC pink lead connects to the Scosche green/white lead, which has the bonus of not having to splice into the factory wire at all! I'm liking the Scosche connector more all the time!

Continuing with the remaining mysterious leads on the Scosche harness, the orange/black is the empty slot on the Metra. It's apparently "illumination negative" according to the aforementioned thread, but apparently not used in this case.

Finally, below the ACC lead on the Scosche harness (where you drew the 6 small squares) are the Black/White, Pink, and Brown leads. The other thread refers to them as "LET" "TEL" and "SECU". I'm assuming these guys aren't used either, so I'll seal those guys off as well.

So - the only question I have remaining, the "Reverse Gear Signal Input" purple/white lead from the black AVIC harness. Where does that go?